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    A day with the new RS5

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    Today I drove the new RS5 for 6 hours and 250 miles on one of my canyon loops. No surprises. It was largely as expected. A few highlights:

    Let's take the elephant in the room first and talk about the powertrain. The good news is I didn't hate the transmission, but it also was nothing special. It's good enough that I could live with it, but not at the level of the S-tronic of the old RS5. The most important thing is that it is responsive. It shifts when you tell it to. The upshifts are pretty much instant, but not as crisp as with the S-tronic. The downshifts are sometimes delayed going into a corner, but it didn't bother me, because by the time I needed to accelerate the lower gear was engaged. Overall not a bad transmission. I kept running out of revs, though and regularly bumped into the rev limiter or the transmission refused to downshift. The 6400 rpm redline would take some getting used to. The engine was pretty good, too. Definitely not as visceral and exciting as the 4.2 V8, though, but the good news is that it barely has any turbo lag. There's a little bit of lag from a stop, but otherwise it's pretty responsive just not all that exciting. I didn't mind the sound actually. It kinda sounds good and the exhaust bangs and pops. It's all just a bit muted. That's an overall theme of the car. It feels a bit isolated and muted.

    Disappointing was the sport differential tuning. It's significantly tamed. The car lacks the aggressive rear axle push and playfulness into corners that the old one has. I had to check several times to make sure it was actually in dynamic mode. Initially I was like "Hello! Is this thing on?". On the plus side you can feel the weight loss. The driving dynamics were overall quite a blast in the canyons. Instead of oversteer the car wants to 4-wheel drift. I was pretty much going sideways with all 4 tires drifting every other corner. Definitely fun, too!

    The DRC suspension is an adjustable suspension done right. I can't emphasize this enough. Most adjustable suspensions, which includes the magnetic ride on the TT-RS and R8 as well as all the other offerings of Audi and cars like the M4 and C63 S kinda suck. They are either too stiff in Comfort mode and almost undriveable in Dynamic mode or nothing special in Dynamic mode and strangely floaty in Comfort mode. The DRC suspension in the new RS5 has an excellent range. Comfort mode is about like Dynamic mode of an A4/5. You can still feel the road, but bumps etc. are absorbed nicely w/o making the whole car float. Dynamic mode gives amazing body control, but you have to go fast, otherwise it's very bouncy. Flying through the canyons at 70, 80 mph was amazing. The suspension has just the right amount of body control, but in the slower parts I found myself putting it in Auto mode, as otherwise the ride became jarring. Therefore I found myself changing the Drive Select mode constantly whereas in my RS5 I don't have to do that. This highlighted the disappointing fact that Audi Sport didn't put the Drive Select button along with the engine start/stop button on the steering wheel like the other new RS models and the R8. I ended up configuring the asterisks button to change the Drive Select mode. Not quite as cool and not practical if you'd rather use it for another commonly used function. I configured the Individual mode with everything in Auto, except for Engine sound and sport differential in Dynamic and I kept going between Dynamic mode and Individual mode.

    Other things worth mention. I'm now mostly in agreement with the recent threads about the RS5 not being worth it, unless you have access to roads to enjoy it or go to the track. For normal driving you are hard pressed to know that you are sitting in an RS. Just driving around town and on the highway coming from my RS5 which reminds you from the moment you start the engine that you are driving something else, it felt like I just stepped down to an S5. Honestly, if somebody had blindfolded me I would have thought it was an S5 at first. So, if all you do is commute to work and other mundane driving, you'll be wasting your money. You'll be driving a way overpriced A5 essentially.

    No auto start/stop, yey! And the car is actually driveable in D. It doesn't feel castrated like the S models do. However, other than the lighter weight of the engine I fail to see the benefits. Fuel economy isn't better. I averaged about 16/17 mpg for the whole 250 mile trip with going full bore in the canyons. I average the same with my V8 RS5. I guess very long road trips and city driving will be different, but for me, the loss of driving sensation I get from the V8 has not much upside. The tank is still too small. I do this same loop on one tank in the R8, but with my RS5 and the new RS5 I come in on fumes to the only gas station en route once off the highway and have to fill up to make it home.

    Overall it was a good day, but it didn't make me wanna sell mine and put in an order for the B9 RS5. I still find the interior an ergonomic disappointed and nothing special overall and the car just isn't very exciting in general. The looks also left me cold. Even in person I don't find the design very good looking and the fake vents all around are just cheesy. Not sure what to do next. I drove the C 63 S Coupe but didn't like it. Horrible transmission. I have to drive the facelift, though. The 9-speed MCT seems to be better. I drove an M4 and liked it a lot. The power delivery of the I6 is almost indistinguishable from a naturally aspirated engine and the DCT like the S-tronic is a step above the ZF8 in the RS5, but I'm just kinda done with BMW as a brand.
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    very thorough review! I am going to have a go myself next week, I look forward to testing it out.

    Long live the V8 RS5, it just seems to continue be a special car in every aspect. DCT, Active Aero & V8 Fun. I still love this car.
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    To each their own, I drove an 2013 RS5 that my dealership took in and was very disappointed in it. Felt very slow in comparison to my dual pulley S4. I’m quite surprised with your notion that you said you can’t enjoy unless your on the track? I feel like Audi specifically went to the twin turbo setup so it could be more enjoyable around town. The previous generation you have to wrap up pass 5k rpm to feel any power at all. But like I said to each their own, I’m pretty jealous you were able to drive one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doady22 View Post
    To each their own, I drove an 2013 RS5 that my dealership took in and was very disappointed in it. Felt very slow in comparison to my dual pulley S4. I’m quite surprised with your notion that you said you can’t enjoy unless your on the track? I feel like Audi specifically went to the twin turbo setup so it could be more enjoyable around town. The previous generation you have to wrap up pass 5k rpm to feel any power at all. But like I said to each their own, I’m pretty jealous you were able to drive one.
    0 to 60 and low end pull is not everything. The twin turbo and the higher torque helps it get off the line quicker, but once you are moving it's all about horsepower. Something that's not always understood, but the car with a higher hp-to-weight ratio is always the faster car than the car with higher torque. I personally dislike high low end torque. It makes the car jumpy around town and gives it a non-linear power delivery. The new RS5 is no different there. All that torque actually causes torque steer. It seems the quattro setup in the new RS5 shifts more torque to the front wheels sooner. If you take off too quick it jerks the front wheels. On average the new RS5 is perhaps a smidgen faster and yes if you do stop light to stop light pulls you'll feel the torque. That just doesn't excite me very much. I think they should have bumped the power to around 500 HP and I would probably have a slightly different opinion. Here's to hope that the rumored RS5 Performance will come with a substantial power upgrade.
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    Hey superswiss - was the car you drove equipped with dynamic steering or the regular package ? How was the steering feel ?

    P.S. Thanks for the "real world" info!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpenneck View Post
    Hey superswiss - was the car you drove equipped with dynamic steering or the regular package ? How was the steering feel ?

    P.S. Thanks for the "real world" info!
    Unfortunately not. It had almost all the options I would get, but it didn't have the dynamic steering and I would get the Alcantara seats. My sweaty back while working the car through the canyons reminded me why I'm done with leather seats. The steering was not great. Like the Audi standard steering in general, it was on the numb side, and barely a noticeable difference between the three modes. As I was going back and forward with the steering in Auto and Dynamic mode, I couldn't really tell a difference. The Dynamic steering this time around has an even more direct ratio in Dynamic mode compared to the standard steering, so I'd expect that it would make the car quite a bit more lively.

    EDIT: I would also want to swap tires. The Hankooks they put on this were disappointing. Steering turn in was wage, so that's part of my impression of the steering. Tires like the PSS have much sharper steering response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superswiss View Post
    0 to 60 and low end pull is not everything. The twin turbo and the higher torque helps it get off the line quicker, but once you are moving it's all about horsepower. Something that's not always understood, but the car with a higher hp-to-weight ratio is always the faster car than the car with higher torque. I personally dislike high low end torque. It makes the car jumpy around town and gives it a non-linear power delivery. The new RS5 is no different there. All that torque actually causes torque steer. It seems the quattro setup in the new RS5 shifts more torque to the front wheels sooner. If you take off too quick it jerks the front wheels. On average the new RS5 is perhaps a smidgen faster and yes if you do stop light to stop light pulls you'll feel the torque. That just doesn't excite me very much. I think they should have bumped the power to around 500 HP and I would probably have a slightly different opinion. Here's to hope that the rumored RS5 Performance will come with a substantial power upgrade.
    Maybe you can justify not wanting low end torque in an AWD car, but I'll take it everyday otherwise.
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    Thanks for the in depth review. I test drove the new RS5, though not for 250 miles. I owned a 2013 RS5 and traded it for an S7 in 2015 needing more room. I missed my 2013 RS5 from day one. I’m now in an S5 Sportback but was really excited to see the new RS5 and wanted to drive it and possibly get back into one or maybe the RS5 Sportback. Well, the drive left me underwhelmed. As much as it performs better than my S5 Sportback, it only does so marginally. It’s too tame for an RS model and the exhaust tone just didn’t put that smile on my face like my old RS5. I was really hoping to love it but it just made me miss my 2013 RS5 even more.


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    Thanks for the review, I saw an RS5 just like that one on Saturday in downtown Livermore. I thought the interior was nice but my only complaint is that tablet on dash, I wish it go down ala RS3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikess4 View Post
    Thanks for the in depth review. I test drove the new RS5, though not for 250 miles. I owned a 2013 RS5 and traded it for an S7 in 2015 needing more room. I missed my 2013 RS5 from day one. I’m now in an S5 Sportback but was really excited to see the new RS5 and wanted to drive it and possibly get back into one or maybe the RS5 Sportback. Well, the drive left me underwhelmed. As much as it performs better than my S5 Sportback, it only does so marginally. It’s too tame for an RS model and the exhaust tone just didn’t put that smile on my face like my old RS5. I was really hoping to love it but it just made me miss my 2013 RS5 even more.


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    I hear you. I drove an S6 and it didn't do anything for me. I got back into my car today. Didn't drive yesterday, so I had a day to digest my impressions. Driving my car today just confirmed pretty much everything. I just feel so much more connected to the road and driving experience from the cold start to the immediate and crisp throttle response, to the sound, the transmission snapping gears with authority and a feel much closer to a manual transmission. Just gives me more smiles per miles. The main thing for me is really how the old RS5 provides a driving experience that's much closer to the R8, than the S5. Even the layout of the cabin. I can actually reach all the controls w/o needing to lean forward. The new interior places the Drive Select buttons and in particular the engine start/stop button so far forward that from my driving position I can't reach them w/o leaning forward, The position of the MMI controls kinda sucks, too. The ergonomics of the new interior are so much worse, IMO.

    To be fair, my car is fully broken in and not a 100% stock anymore and I've got the Dynamic Steering, which would be a must on the next car. So similar modifications would most likely make the new RS5 a bit better as well. Especially, the brakes for example. I didn't comment on the brakes in my original post. They stopped the car well, but like Audi brakes in general, they just don't modulate well. My current setup is so much better and makes a huge difference when driving in any situation, so I'd most likely modify the brakes again as one of the first steps and if Eurocode etc. comes out with a subframe brace for the B9, I'm sure it will improve the steering just like it did in the B8/.5.

    I'm realizing that my biggest issue is having owned the old RS5. I feel spoiled. I definitely think the new RS5 would be a great car for anybody stepping up from an S4/5. It's the same kind of DNA, but what spoiled me as I said above is that the old RS5 has some R8 DNA, which is completely absent in the new one.
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    Nice review superswiss, I'm looking to come back into the Audi fold after 4 consecutive BMWs. The RS5 was a contender. Interesting that you said you liked the M4... does that mean you don't see this as an upgrade coming from an F8X? The ZF8 was my biggest concern and you all but confirmed my fears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMG View Post
    Nice review superswiss, I'm looking to come back into the Audi fold after 4 consecutive BMWs. The RS5 was a contender. Interesting that you said you liked the M4... does that mean you don't see this as an upgrade coming from an F8X? The ZF8 was my biggest concern and you all but confirmed my fears.
    Depends on what you are looking for. For me B8.5 RS5 > M4 > B9 RS5. The M4 is more of a drivers car, but lacks in the GT and all-weather department. The B8.5 RS5 is more of a drivers car than the B9 RS5 in my opinion and has better GT traits than the M4. The B9 RS5 is mostly GT and lacks driver engagment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superswiss View Post
    Depends on what you are looking for. For me B8.5 RS5 > M4 > B9 RS5. The M4 is more of a drivers car, but lacks in the GT and all-weather department. The B8.5 RS5 is more of a drivers car than the B9 RS5 in my opinion and has better GT traits than the M4. The B9 RS5 is mostly GT and lacks driver engagment.
    Ok got it. I’m not looking for an all weather car. I’m just looking for a track car I can sometimes drive to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMG View Post
    Ok got it. I’m not looking for an all weather car. I’m just looking for a track car I can sometimes drive to work.
    As much as the new RS5 is looking to be my next car in a few months, I'd say if tracking is one of the more important items, definitely go M vs. RS. Maybe even the new AMG although i think the M3/4 would perform the best on the track. Wicked cars for sure.
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    Interesting and very thorough review.
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    Great write-up. Basically what I pictured myself feeling once I get a chance to step into one. No doubt it’s a good car and the B9 overall has grown on me. But as a B8.5 RS5 owner I think you hit the nail in the head - the 8.5 felt more like an R8 than an S5, while the B9 really just looks like a S5 with a body kit with a little extra boost. And for some reason I just really prefer the look of the B9 S5 more than the RS.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnhanson View Post
    Great write-up. Basically what I pictured myself feeling once I get a chance to step into one. No doubt it’s a good car and the B9 overall has grown on me. But as a B8.5 RS5 owner I think you hit the nail in the head - the 8.5 felt more like an R8 than an S5, while the B9 really just looks like a S5 with a body kit with a little extra boost. And for some reason I just really prefer the look of the B9 S5 more than the RS.


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    Well put. Exactly what I was trying to say in an earlier post but you nailed it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JimWB View Post
    Maybe you can justify not wanting low end torque in an AWD car, but I'll take it everyday otherwise.
    Low end torque and AWD are a fantastic combination.

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    Good thoughts in your review.

    You're in the bay area, you used the Audi On Demand service for this? https://www.audiondemand.com/us/serv..._ondemand.html I tried out a C7.5 there before buying my S6. Love that they offer the S and RS cars.

    They have a RS5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superswiss View Post
    Depends on what you are looking for. For me B8.5 RS5 > M4 > B9 RS5. The M4 is more of a drivers car, but lacks in the GT and all-weather department. The B8.5 RS5 is more of a drivers car than the B9 RS5 in my opinion and has better GT traits than the M4. The B9 RS5 is mostly GT and lacks driver engagment.
    Sounds like an awesome drive. What route is this again? I think you’ve told me before. After your CA-33 recommendation I try and do all your routes lol.

    I always enjoy reading your posts. So are you keeping the B8.5? I’ve been looking at RS4’s and will hopefully pick one up soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by widebodyfx View Post
    Good thoughts in your review.

    You're in the bay area, you used the Audi On Demand service for this? https://www.audiondemand.com/us/serv..._ondemand.html I tried out a C7.5 there before buying my S6. Love that they offer the S and RS cars.

    They have a RS5.
    https://app.us.audiondemand.com/mode...QMSYJS60RA0XGX
    Yep, it was theirs. I'm a frequent Audi on Demand user to drive other models w/o having to own them for a few days a year. I'll take out their R8s once in a while or a different road trip car if my RS5 is not practical enough or I need something with all-season tires.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilfer View Post
    Sounds like an awesome drive. What route is this again? I think you’ve told me before. After your CA-33 recommendation I try and do all your routes lol.

    I always enjoy reading your posts. So are you keeping the B8.5? I’ve been looking at RS4’s and will hopefully pick one up soon.
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    Yeah, for now I'm keeping the B8.5. I just had a carbon clean done, so it runs like new again. I haven't ruled out the B9 quite yet, but I generally wait for the facelifts anyway and there's a rumored RS5 Performance. I'm also interested in the C63 S again after they announced the facelift.
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    Not to hijack, but if you don’t mind me asking who did your carbon clean and how much did it cost you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnhanson View Post
    Not to hijack, but if you don’t mind me asking who did your carbon clean and how much did it cost you.


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    See my other thread. I took it to 034Motorsport. They are local. I paid about $1600, about $1400 in labor and the rest is parts. They also threw in about $200 in solenoids that they replaced while they were in there. I've got squeaky clean intake ports and new injector seals, gaskets etc. now. Car runs noticeably better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superswiss View Post
    See my other thread. I took it to 034Motorsport. They are local. I paid about $1600, about $1400 in labor and the rest is parts. They also threw in about $200 in solenoids that they replaced while they were in there. I've got squeaky clean intake ports and new injector seals, gaskets etc. now. Car runs noticeably better.
    Damn, carbon cleaning isn’t cheap then. At least it isn’t that often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pilfer View Post
    Damn, carbon cleaning isn’t cheap then. At least it isn’t that often.
    Prices depend on engine size. Can be as little as around $700 for a 4 banger. The V8 and V10s are more expensive obviously. At least double the work. 034 has a pricing guide on their website. They seem a bit older. Looks like their labor rates have gone up. Considering that I've been spending about $1600/year on tires for the past 5 years, this isn't all that bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doady22 View Post
    To each their own, I drove an 2013 RS5 that my dealership took in and was very disappointed in it. Felt very slow in comparison to my dual pulley S4. I’m quite surprised with your notion that you said you can’t enjoy unless your on the track? I feel like Audi specifically went to the twin turbo setup so it could be more enjoyable around town. The previous generation you have to wrap up pass 5k rpm to feel any power at all. But like I said to each their own, I’m pretty jealous you were able to drive one.
    Should also note you're at higher altitude. It makes all the difference on those V8s. My father had the previous RS5, and it was a blast, but way under powered at this altitude. I have the new one on order, and love the fact they went with a TT V6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky Ricer View Post
    Should also note you're at higher altitude. It makes all the difference on those V8s. My father had the previous RS5, and it was a blast, but way under powered at this altitude. I have the new one on order, and love the fact they went with a TT V6.
    +1... Didn't even notice he is in Colorado, but you bet. At his 5000 ft elevation the old RS5 is down almost 70 HP. Very different game here at sea level.
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    +1 on total review including BMW having alienated me. Dealers have been my issue not the cars excepting Bangle Butt. The BB on purpose had imo the worst “ fit and finish” I’ve ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superswiss View Post
    Today I drove the new RS5 for 6 hours and 250 miles on one of my canyon loops. No surprises. It was largely as expected. A few highlights:

    Let's take the elephant in the room first and talk about the powertrain. The good news is I didn't hate the transmission, but it also was nothing special. It's good enough that I could live with it, but not at the level of the S-tronic of the old RS5. The most important thing is that it is responsive. It shifts when you tell it to. The upshifts are pretty much instant, but not as crisp as with the S-tronic. The downshifts are sometimes delayed going into a corner, but it didn't bother me, because by the time I needed to accelerate the lower gear was engaged. Overall not a bad transmission. I kept running out of revs, though and regularly bumped into the rev limiter or the transmission refused to downshift. The 6400 rpm redline would take some getting used to. The engine was pretty good, too....
    I test drove the RS5 too, but not for that long. Coming from a 2013 S4 I was blown away! Very different car! The only slight advantage my S4 has over the RS5 is the dual clutch (the gear changes in the RS5 didn't feel as seamless as in my car, perhaps because of the much higher torque?). Things I didn't like: the color Daytona grey didn't look good on the RS5 even though it had the carbon fiber black optics package. I hated the feel of the alcantara steering wheel (I would pay not to have it, but fortunately it's the other way around).
    Things I liked: The low end torque, the acceleration of that car is mind blowing, I can't imagine anyone not being impressed by it. It felt like the R8's I drove on the track during an Audi event. There is a huge difference between Dynamic and Comfort modes, like completely different cars. You can hear the different engine tone even when the car is idling. I can go on and on about the things I liked, the bottom line is that I placed an order, almost every option including ceramic brakes :)

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    Curious to see which of ours arrives first!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fwd55 View Post
    Curious to see which of ours arrives first!
    And you ordered it in October? :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ks_os View Post
    I test drove the RS5 too, but not for that long. Coming from a 2013 S4 I was blown away! Very different car! The only slight advantage my S4 has over the RS5 is the dual clutch (the gear changes in the RS5 didn't feel as seamless as in my car, perhaps because of the much higher torque?). Things I didn't like: the color Daytona grey didn't look good on the RS5 even though it had the carbon fiber black optics package. I hated the feel of the alcantara steering wheel (I would pay not to have it, but fortunately it's the other way around).
    Things I liked: The low end torque, the acceleration of that car is mind blowing, I can't imagine anyone not being impressed by it. It felt like the R8's I drove on the track during and Audi event. There is a huge difference between Dynamic and Comfort modes, like completely different cars. You can hear the different engine tone even when the car is idling. I can go on and on on the things I liked, the bottom line is that I placed an order, almost every option including ceramic brakes :)

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    Opinions depend on one's point of reference. I can totally understand that you like it coming from a '13 S4. I probably would, too. But as I said before, my issue is that I owned the previous RS5, so that's my point of reference. RS cars have a wider Audi Drive Select range. I'm already used to that. The old RS5 is a very different car in Comfort mode vs Dynamic mode as well. Basically, RS cars have more headroom across the board. It's what I really like about them. In Comfort mode they don't beat you up for daily driving, but in Dynamic mode they go beyond what an S offers.
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    What's the general opinion of the ceramic brakes option ? I have never had them in the past and always assumed they were better suited for track duty than daily driving...
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    Yes, second in line at Mark on Hunt Club. I'm seeing some US buyers in other threads being notified that their car is built 5 weeks ahead of schedule. Hopefully Audi will push Canadian orders up too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpenneck View Post
    What's the general opinion of the ceramic brakes option ? I have never had them in the past and always assumed they were better suited for track duty than daily driving...
    Track for sure, but the advantages for daily driving are no brake dust, and they last for almost the life of the car (unless you are on the track all the time)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ks_os View Post
    Track for sure, but the advantages for daily driving are no brake dust, and they last for almost the life of the car (unless you are on the track all the time)
    Thanks. What about noise ? I have often heard they can be grindy or sqeuaky at lower speeds ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpenneck View Post
    Thanks. What about noise ? I have often heard they can be grindy or sqeuaky at lower speeds ?
    Yes they squeak a little at low brake pressure especially when they are cold but you can hardly notice when the windows are closed, I take a little squeak over brake dust any time :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ks_os View Post
    Track for sure, but the advantages for daily driving are no brake dust, and they last for almost the life of the car (unless you are on the track all the time)

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    They're also significantly lighter than the iron rotor setup and have better modulation and braking force (with no fade). If the cost isn't a bother, definitely go with ceramics. The previous gen RS5 caliper for the ceramic setup (6-pot) is a better design than the 8-pot caliper used on the iron setup. For some odd reason they use the 8-pot iron rotor RS5 caliper on the new RS3's with ceramic rotors. They're larger and heavier. The R8 ceramic setup uses the same front caliper. They're Porsche 19Z calipers rebadged. Haven't gotten a close look at the new RS5's calipers to see which model they are but they look like the RS7 caliper.

    And great review superswiss. Enjoyed the read and comments.
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    Drove one on Friday when I went to pick up mine from being serviced. As I told my friends at the dealership, if I didn't have my V8 RS5 I would be interested. Things that I liked: the instrument cluster, torque, steering responsiveness ,"lightness". Things I didn't like, the MMI display being above the dash, the center console looked cheap, most importantly down shifting does not slow the car down nearly as much as the V8 (Understandable but I would miss that very much). And I agree with @superswiss in that you don't realize what you are in until you start pushing it. That particular model has been sitting on the floor for a month and they are not flying off the floor like the old model did. A sales guy came to me and asked me if I would be interested in trading in my car. After messing with him for a bit I asked him how long it would take him to sell my car and he said 1-2 days max.

    So I think as beautiful of a car the RS5 is, it has lost some of its uniqueness.

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