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    Need new clutch

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    Yup was talking shit to friend w 340 bmw that I would beat him. First time driving hard and clutch definitely slipped and didn't go no where. What clutch should I get I'm newly stage 1 and new to car 70k miles guessing stock clutch. What should I get I'm prob gonna go stage 2 in future.
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    What am I looking at cost of aftermarket upgrade and install of clutch?

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    Holy crap! I've swapped out a clutch and flywheel in my 1998 Camaro (turbo car making 710hp/tq at the wheels). Easily done in a couple hours. I just did a quick search and found an installation guide from ECS on a clutch swap. Our manual transmission cars are crazy complicated...i could see this being a 1-2 day job to do.

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    Sachs Xtend clutch. Unless you're going more than stage 2 that's what I'd stick with as it gives the most OEM pedal feel.
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    I have done my clutch twice- took about 12 hours each time.
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    Another question is I never felt slip before drives fine under normal conditions can I expect have some time before needing to replace or does it totally fail quickly once starts slipping?

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    Generally a clutch can last a while after it starts slipping under heavy load, if you're easy on it it should be fine. But I would get ready to replace it soon.
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    BMW 340, lol


    I ran one of those, looked stock, it was a slow walk and I was stage 2 so make sure the new clutch is overkill just in case you go stage 2 or beyond



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    I had 2 incidents where went WOT and shifted 1-2 the clutch pedal just stayed on the floor, engine revved and car went nowhere Burnt smell and car shifted unusually for a few days there after. On both occasions, the clutch feel and action returned to normal. Definitely burned the clutch .But it still worked OK after the clutch materiel wore off of the pressure plate. Car had 20 K at the time. Now on my 3rd MT S4. I don't repeat that same scenario . But my current 2011 with 80k miles and 2 previous owners, works just fine as long as I don't beat it it. So if you plan on racing it or driving it hard, a new clutch is in order. If you drive it conservatively but aggressively, and not do WOT burn outs from less than 5 MPH, you can keep your clutch for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fstr n u View Post
    Holy crap! I've swapped out a clutch and flywheel in my 1998 Camaro (turbo car making 710hp/tq at the wheels). Easily done in a couple hours. I just did a quick search and found an installation guide from ECS on a clutch swap. Our manual transmission cars are crazy complicated...i could see this being a 1-2 day job to do.

    ECS: Southbend Clutch and lightweight flywheel

    http://bd8ba3c866c8cbc330ab-7b26c6f3...lywheel_R2.pdf

    https://www.ecstuning.com/b-ecs-part...3886ecs01akt4/

    JHM: Lightweight Flywheel and clutch kits

    https://jhmotorsports.com/products/t...-3-0t-fsi.html
    holy smokes. didnt realize clutch/fly wheels were so expensive on these cars!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinkman View Post
    holy smokes. didnt realize clutch/fly wheels were so expensive on these cars!
    Is it absolutely necessary to replace the flywheel if no track or drag racing is going to be done? Can the original flywheel be resurfaced if necessary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr GP View Post
    Is it absolutely necessary to replace the flywheel if no track or drag racing is going to be done? Can the original flywheel be resurfaced if necessary?
    Original flywheel can be reused as long as condition is okay.
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    Gonna pick up Sachs xtend. I was quoted $1600 from local performance shop just for labor! Thought that was a little much. How much have you paid? Anyone have shop to recommend on long island?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiritb8s4 View Post
    Gonna pick up Sachs xtend. I was quoted $1600 from local performance shop just for labor! Thought that was a little much. How much have you paid? Anyone have shop to recommend on long island?
    $1600 is highway robbery

    Should be around $1000. $1200 MAX
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    SpirtB... About 20 min from the Tapp bridge Eurotech Motorsports in Mahwah NJ.

    I'd first install a SS line, flush the system you might be fine for a lot more miles if not, don't take any short cuts replace everything-


    Sachs Xtend clutch, get a SS line if not done already, get an updated pilot bearing (they changed it in 13 or 14 I think), get new stock "Rock Auto" flywheel, new fork, T-bearing, flush the crap out of system and put good stuff back in.

    I'm DP, Ultra, AWE full system (downpipe) with test pipes and all the other goodies on a strong 93 file and I'm on a Sachs Xtend with no issues what so ever with all of the above done.

    Break in is really important, find 500 miles of traffic and or stop and go. After 500 miles you can get on it a little at a time for the next 200 and after that your good-

    If you do it or have a shop install it, make sure you clean the crap off of the flywheel..get the coating/ oil off-

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    Quote Originally Posted by EIAlfonso View Post
    BMW 340, lol


    I ran one of those, looked stock, it was a slow walk and I was stage 2 so make sure the new clutch is overkill just in case you go stage 2 or beyond



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    Wait a second: so stage 2 and you just barely beat a stock 340? Iíve gotten the impression on the roads that these 340s are right quick as well.



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