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    Quote Originally Posted by a4android View Post
    Ok. It may be then soldering joint shorting.
    It intrigue me that you often get into the dead android by pressing it multiple times. Yes long press may cause the screen but you don't seem to press it longer than 3 secs when you were testing it.

    Once new firmware comes out (in few days) we will try that to eliminate software issue and then if necessary going for a replacement.

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    Hi Daniel,

    I got to briefly test again today. Unit started up fine when I started the car, and worked okay for a few minutes. I then noticed the screen had gone blank. Using the paperclip, I pressed the reset button, and the activation felt good. Nothing changed. After waiting 20 seconds, I pressed it a few more times. Waited again and still nothing. Finally I help the reset button in for a 10-count. Again, nothing changed, screen was still blank. I had places to be, so I couldn't troubleshoot further.

    Long story short, when the unit is acting up, pressing the reset button in various ways had no impact. Not sure if that changes the possibility it could be a bad solder joint on the reset button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauven View Post
    Hi Daniel,

    I got to briefly test again today. Unit started up fine when I started the car, and worked okay for a few minutes. I then noticed the screen had gone blank. Using the paperclip, I pressed the reset button, and the activation felt good. Nothing changed. After waiting 20 seconds, I pressed it a few more times. Waited again and still nothing. Finally I help the reset button in for a 10-count. Again, nothing changed, screen was still blank. I had places to be, so I couldn't troubleshoot further.

    Long story short, when the unit is acting up, pressing the reset button in various ways had no impact. Not sure if that changes the possibility it could be a bad solder joint on the reset button.

    Paul
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    My new S3 RSnav experiance

    Ok so i got my new S3 12.3 unit and have upgraded from my S2 10.25. I will be posting more in my youtube channel later but I figured I would toss a couple things here to help others and potentially keep Daniel from having to answer some questions for others.

    As others have mentioned the install is easier than ever. The instructions are better and the new harness is a bit easier to get in from my experience. You do not need a bunch of special tools. I will review them in the video but the most obscure items I needed were the VW/Audi radio keys. Overall I am very happy with the unit primarily for the sound and speed, that said there are a couple of outstanding items. Here is where I stand now.

    I did have to pull and replace all of the s2 components. Even the mounting trim for the screen is different. You also MUST remember to look at the user guide from the wiki also. There are a few steps (like setting the car type) in the protected menu that is in that document and is pretty critical. One item that IS NOT documented yet is that if your are using a non-USB camera for your DVR on RSnav you need to enter the ARM settings in the protected Factory settings menu and change the camera type. I am also missing the Y cable to use the OEM GPS antenna so for now I am using the one that shipped with the S3 (which is also different from the one in the S2 so that needed to be pulled also).

    I do not yet seem to have issues with the unit restarting or anything however there are a few outstanding issues.
    1. I can't sort out how to get any DVR like software or features for my front camera which is a CVBS type cam connected by the RCA DVR plug. Daniel has told me that this is not possible. To record a camera on RSnav you need to use a AHD (USB) camera.
    2. Any audio or video playing on my RSnav seems to stop (not just mute) playing when I go to MMI functions like the car menu. This is definitely different than my S2 model Daniel has provided a solution to this that I have confirmed in testing. First you need to update software and MCU to the latest versions using the directions on the Wiki. Then you need to disable the center speaker navigation option under the sound settings called nav.guidance.
    3. I am also unable to get wireless android auto to work after a couple hours of troubleshooting. I have a Samsung s20+. I am pretty sure there is a trick here specific to RSnav because I have set it up correctly on other systems. This issue is outstanding and others have confirmed they have this issue. Daniel has not responded on a fix for this. He did indicate it is due to Android security changes. They want to find a fix but since it is a OS issue that is complicated
    4. The feature where you could activate google assistance (or any voice assistant) by long pressing the button on the steering wheel is not working on the S3 like it did on the S2. Daniel has told me he hopes to have an update that will fix this end of October.
    5. The feature where the mode roll button on the steering wheel would switch between the apps on the S2 seems to also be missing on the S3 but that is less important. For the record I have always wanted the feature to be that pressing that roller would activate the RSnav's running app screen THEN allow the roller to scroll through but that is just me. Daniel has said this would be hard to do because this button now works as a dedicated hardware back button in Android. There are apps that would not work without that.
    6. The feature to add your own custom car image to the menu screen that was in the S2 is missing for the S3. Again Daniel has confirmed this will be a later update.
    7. The one item I was thinking was better in the S3 unit but does not seem to be fixed is the control of the bluetooth stack. It still needs to be managed from the hand free software and CAN'T be managed via the android settings. This means that pairing other bluetooth devices like my ODBii dongle from Torque or my RGB lighting controller for the underglow is seemingly not possible. Daniel has responded that the standard OS bluetooth configuration does indeed not work on the S3. This was due to changes they needed to make to keep the hands free system working plus make Apple Carplay work correctly. They are aware of the problem and are hopeful to release a software fix to at least allow programs like Torque or dash commander to work with a ODBII dongle. However systems like Optima RGB or Draggy are not currently in plan.
    8. The temperature reading on the RSNav is about 4 or 5 degrees lower than the reading on my Audi climate control. Daniel has confirmed this is a known issue and he needs to do some configuration to make this work. With COVID restrictions that is proving difficult.
    9. The Android Auto icon is customizable but the Apple Carplay is not. Daniel has confirmed this is a known issue and they will look to make that possible in a future version.
    10. Changing the application linked to a menu item does not change the icon and name like it used too on older RSnav models.. Daniel has confirmed this is a known issue and hops to work on a solution later October.
    11. I have recieved and installed the Y cable splitter to use the GPS OEM antenna. This is not working for me where the antenna that comes with the RSnav does work. I confirmed the install is correct and secure but it is still not working. I am awaiting feedback from Daniel.


    I agree with earlier posts that the S3 versus the S1 is night and day and not worth the comparison. For those with a S2 here is a quick comparison list.
    What’s new
    • Faster response
    • Bigger screen (if you get the 12.3)
    • MUCH Better sound
    • RSNav software upgrades such as better sound level control and new dashboard
    • Ability to record camera inputs (DVR) type capability
    • Ability to support USB cameras
    • Wireless android auto (supported by I cant get it working yet)
    • More stable and compatible Android 9
    • Equalizer and Sound processing control
    • Split screen


    What is missing or a problem
    • The non-OEM GPS and 3G antenna wires are identical and have no labels.
    • Custom image upload
    • Long press of voice command for google assistant
    • Scroll apps from steering wheel button
    • Built in radio app (not sure anybody cares)
    • Some customization options like assigning specific actions for steering wheel buttons.
    Last edited by sharrisct25; 10-13-2020 at 06:14 PM.

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    great..!!
    Please, when you make the video for your channel, put the link here.
    Greetings

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    Ok so I'm having some lingering questions

    1. Wireless Android Auto. I have the Wireless Launcher on my phone. I am paired to GOCSDK which is what shows up as paired in the Bluetooth “app” on the headunit. When I launch Headunit Reloaded I am presented with the landing screen. Launch BT via WiFi is disabled. Under the Connectivity section it shows no devices are paired. In the Android settings I .also unable to stay pair my phone, no devices come up.
    2. Connectivity in general. The device doesn't seem to like staying connected to wifi, it fully disables it, after leaving the Android settings option.
    3. Still having issues with the rear camera but I suspect that is due to not having the diode that is required (didn't receive it with the trunk handle camera from RSNav).
    4. Audio. It seems like the sound is significantly less punchy in terms of bass. I listen to a lot of edm, hardstyle and other more bass heavy music. I feel like I have zero bass now.

    Is there any post install setup docs I can find that might help me out?

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    elpeterson,

    So the Wireless android auto issue is the same problem I am seeing and that others have reported. Most likely there is some sort of trick or procedure that we need to know. If I hear from Daniel before he posts anything here I will come back and update this string.

    The problem you are seeing not staying connected to WiFi is likely related to your android auto problem. When you try to start Android auto on the RSnav the program turns off any WiFi connections you have. It then is trying to establish a WiFi connection between the phone and the RSnav. According to the developer of head unit reloaded on XDA the program is trying to turn the RSnav into a hotspot for the phone to connect too. If you go into connection settings and turn off the setting to try and use HUR and then stop starting Android auto I think you will find the WiFi connection on the RSnav will stabilize and in fact work better than the S2 unit. That has been my experience at least.

    I can't comment on the rear view camera, mine works fine but it is OEM.

    I am surprised by your comment about the Audio. I have found the audio on the S3 to be light years ahead of the S2 unit. The Bass response in particular is really better for me. I listen to more hip hop and rap but that should not really matter. Have you tried looking at the audio settings in RSnav and maybe played with the audio app?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharrisct25 View Post
    I am surprised by your comment about the Audio. I have found the audio on the S3 to be light years ahead of the S2 unit. The Bass response in particular is really better for me.
    I agree 100%.

    The audio on my S1 HW2.0 was okay but dull, especially the bass. My buddy who also had an S1 HW2.0 had similar okay audio, but then his unit went bad and got replaced. I think the replacement was the HW3.0 since it booted so much quicker than our original HW2.0's, but it came without the new harness (which I think was required), and his audio was horrible - you could hardly hear it (seems like a common complaint on that revision). He never got it sorted and ended up going back to oem stock. Basically, I felt I was taking a gamble on S3, hoping for at least good audio quality and fearful I might have major audio issues.

    I'm simply amazed how good the S3 sounds. I immediately noticed the full, well balanced audio and clear, strong bass. I have the B&O upgrade on my S4, so decent speakers and amps if that makes a difference. It's been almost 2 years since I last heard stock audio, way too long to be certain, but I would hazard a guess that the S3 is at least as good as, if not better, than oem. Daniel should be proud of this accomplishment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharrisct25 View Post
    I agree with earlier posts that the S3 versus the S1 is night and day and not worth the comparison. For those with a S2 here is a quick comparison list.
    What’s new
    • ...
    • More stable and compatible Android 9
      ...
    sharrisct25, just curious if your unit really is running Android 9. I'm mentioned it a couple times now that my unit clearly indicates it is running Android 10 (in the Android settings). I don't know if that is just a hack that Daniel applied to improve Android 9 compatibility, or if somehow my S3 really is running Android 10. I didn't do any OS upgrades, and noticed this about a day after I installed it, so I'm thinking it shipped this way. If my unit is actually running Android 9, I have no idea how to confirm this.

    And since my unit is having the random slow boot loop issue, it's crossed my mind that this might be a factor, but Daniel never commented on this.

    Paul
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    Mines running 10 as well. You can't hack the OS into thinking it's another OS. It either is and has the updated APIs that go with it or it doesn't. I'm pleasantly surprised to see it be Android 10 though.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pauven View Post
    sharrisct25, just curious if your unit really is running Android 9. I'm mentioned it a couple times now that my unit clearly indicates it is running Android 10 (in the Android settings). I don't know if that is just a hack that Daniel applied to improve Android 9 compatibility, or if somehow my S3 really is running Android 10. I didn't do any OS upgrades, and noticed this about a day after I installed it, so I'm thinking it shipped this way. If my unit is actually running Android 9, I have no idea how to confirm this.

    And since my unit is having the random slow boot loop issue, it's crossed my mind that this might be a factor, but Daniel never commented on this.

    Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by a4android View Post
    Run dashboard app and see if your temperature is -64'C.

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    Daniel,

    On the dashboard app the temperature reads 84.2°F, which matches the Audi dashboard reading of 84° F. I believe that is approximately 29°C.

    I took a picture if you need it - just let me know.

    I do have the Celsius to Fahrenheit temperature conversion discrepancy, where when I adjust the climate control temperature, the pop-up overlay on the S3 shows the wrong temp - it appears that the conversion formula is wrong. I know that's not related to the blackscreening/boot loop issue, but you reminded me when you asked about the temp reading so I thought I'd mention it again.

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    It's Android 9.0 API level 28. NOT Android 10.0. That's a way of faking Android version pretending it is the latest OS.... that's a chinese practice, but never realized it that the factory did this to mine. I told not to do this before launching, but they forgot i guess.
    I will have it corrected next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauven View Post
    Daniel,

    On the dashboard app the temperature reads 84.2°F, which matches the Audi dashboard reading of 84° F. I believe that is approximately 29°C.

    I took a picture if you need it - just let me know.

    I do have the Celsius to Fahrenheit temperature conversion discrepancy, where when I adjust the climate control temperature, the pop-up overlay on the S3 shows the wrong temp - it appears that the conversion formula is wrong. I know that's not related to the blackscreening/boot loop issue, but you reminded me when you asked about the temp reading so I thought I'd mention it again.

    Paul
    Let's try a replacement if the issue persists for the random rebooting.
    I was initially suspecting canbus malfunction makes it reboot, but it seems qualcomm core side issue.
    IF you are kind you can log, and have it sent to me.

    How to run a log? go to software version information pate and tap rapidly 10 times the software version information and there will be a hidden menu for logging.
    Activate all logging, drive, and wait until you encounter the problem. Once the problem is recorded, export the log as shown in the instruction on the screen, and have it sent to me.

    It's not mandatory that you have to do, but I mean if you can.

    One thing that I want to be clear. You did update to 2nd Sept release and did perform the factory reset right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by elpeterson View Post
    Ok so I'm having some lingering questions

    1. Wireless Android Auto. I have the Wireless Launcher on my phone. I am paired to GOCSDK which is what shows up as paired in the Bluetooth “app” on the headunit. When I launch Headunit Reloaded I am presented with the landing screen. Launch BT via WiFi is disabled. Under the Connectivity section it shows no devices are paired. In the Android settings I .also unable to stay pair my phone, no devices come up.
    2. Connectivity in general. The device doesn't seem to like staying connected to wifi, it fully disables it, after leaving the Android settings option.
    3. Still having issues with the rear camera but I suspect that is due to not having the diode that is required (didn't receive it with the trunk handle camera from RSNav).
    4. Audio. It seems like the sound is significantly less punchy in terms of bass. I listen to a lot of edm, hardstyle and other more bass heavy music. I feel like I have zero bass now.

    Is there any post-install setup docs I can find that might help me out?
    It is right that it's less punchy in terms of bass when you compare it with AUDI MMI's basic setting.
    We tuned it for neutral. IMO, audi original is tuned too much on bass. But if you increase lower band frq in our EQ, you should have more bass if everything is okay. If that does not change anything then it's another problem.
    In terms of the sound, our firmware lacks a fine tunning of the surround or the feeling of space - I admit it. I will deal it later after I finish analyzing the firmware structure.
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    For the Wireless Android Auto.
    Welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, yes it works better if and only if there is no wifi around you at all and there are only two devices in this reality - which is practically impossible.
    I see internal communication issue within Google that the Android team keep increasing security measures like preventing remote or automated app control of an app, while Android Auto team is like Ce Sera Sera.

    https://www.autoevolution.com/news/o...LIM5Tp9fAfzfqU

    Yes, the primary issue here is HR app commands RSNAV to create a wifi hotspot under the blanket and send an invitation to the host device(your cellphone) to join it, but the invitee is not accepting and initiating the connection due to security policies. Meanwhile, other apps on the phone is requesting the regular internet connection so everything goes mess when there is known wifi, and automatic wifi turnning on is active.

    We all hope to google to sort it out from Android 11, but it seems only the god knows where they are heading.
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    Ok this is actually really helpful. It means I can head to XDA for troubleshooting. I just needed to know it was purely software and not anything that was a part of RSNav.

    The other thing, can someone send me a link to the exact diode needed for the trunk camera from the site?
    Quote Originally Posted by a4android View Post
    For the Wireless Android Auto.
    Welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, yes it works better if and only if there is no wifi around you at all and there are only two devices in this reality - which is practically impossible.
    I see internal communication issue within Google that the Android team keep increasing security measures like preventing remote or automated app control of an app, while Android Auto team is like Ce Sera Sera.

    https://www.autoevolution.com/news/o...LIM5Tp9fAfzfqU

    Yes, the primary issue here is HR app commands RSNAV to create a wifi hotspot under the blanket and send an invitation to the host device(your cellphone) to join it, but the invitee is not accepting and initiating the connection due to security policies. Meanwhile, other apps on the phone is requesting the regular internet connection so everything goes mess when there is known wifi, and automatic wifi turnning on is active.

    We all hope to google to sort it out from Android 11, but it seems only the god knows where they are heading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a4android View Post
    IF you are kind you can log, and have it sent to me.

    How to run a log? go to software version information pate and tap rapidly 10 times the software version information and there will be a hidden menu for logging.
    Activate all logging, drive, and wait until you encounter the problem. Once the problem is recorded, export the log as shown in the instruction on the screen, and have it sent to me.

    It's not mandatory that you have to do, but I mean if you can.
    Sure, I'll get a log for you.

    EDIT: I was able to turn all Log All, and I went for a drive and the unit blackscreened again after 15-20 minutes. As of yet, it has not booted back up so I can't collect the logs. I'll check again later.


    Quote Originally Posted by a4android View Post
    One thing that I want to be clear. You did update to 2nd Sept release and did perform the factory reset right?
    No, I have not done either of those things.

    I did not know that there was a 2nd Sept release - this thing is brand new just over a week ago, and I wasn't expecting a new release already. Even so, I had already clicked the "S3 Software updates" link on the wiki while finding the installation instructions, just to check, and that page has no data. I just checked again, and still no data. Where would I find the 2nd Sept release?

    While I did the Factory Settings (which was already configured to my car, somehow), I didn't do the Reset. I can go ahead and do that now.
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    So how do people usually run their S3 unit?

    1) Android Auto or Apple Carplay wired?
    2) Bluetooth connectivity for phone calls/music and run Google Maps/Waze via the S3 android unit?

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    Wired AA until I can find more time to figure out the Wireless stuff. Probably more suited for XDA than AZ. Took a call for the first time through Android Auto and it was seamless. I also listen to music via Spotify in AA. I'll probably only use AA unless I am doing something very specific like watching Netflix waiting to pick my kids up
    Quote Originally Posted by giggidy1 View Post
    So how do people usually run their S3 unit?

    1) Android Auto or Apple Carplay wired?
    2) Bluetooth connectivity for phone calls/music and run Google Maps/Waze via the S3 android unit?

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    So I may be very different than others but I do not use RSnav for Android Auto OR Bluetooth.

    I do not use bluetooth because my car happens to have the OEM bluetooth already. It had far superior sounds quality than the earlier versions of the RSNav. I have not yet tested the new S3 RSNav to see how it compares for handsfree calling but I plan too. If it is compatible to the OEM bluetooth setup I would switch to the RSnav one. Using the OEM one works pretty seamlessly with the RSnav but the ability to use google assistant to voice dial and/or dial from a email etc would be nice.

    Android auto is a personal choice, I like to have my phone idle and charging while I drive except for phone calls. Since the RSnav is more than capable of running all of the car apps I want (Waze, streaming music etc) I simply tether the RSnav to my phones wifi hotspot and use it as a separate system.

    Hope that is helpful.

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    You have the option to switch bluetooth over to Audi OEM in the options if your vehicle is equipped with it. Like Daniel had said to me, the sound quality is greatly improved over OEM unit however the EQ is set pretty neutrally. Since fiddling with my EQ I am greatly impressed with the improvement.

    Because wireless is an option, though a bit of a mystery right now, your phone can still remain fully idle and charging by your own means while you leveraging AA to it's fullest potential. My plan is to purchase the quick charge retrofit for the ash tray in my car to fully remove wires altogether.

    Waze, Maps, Spotify etc are all executed flawless within RSNav, but their own implementation within Android Auto, especially on the 10"+ screens is pretty spectacular. Definitely worth giving it a shot.
    Quote Originally Posted by sharrisct25 View Post
    So I may be very different than others but I do not use RSnav for Android Auto OR Bluetooth.

    I do not use bluetooth because my car happens to have the OEM bluetooth already. It had far superior sounds quality than the earlier versions of the RSNav. I have not yet tested the new S3 RSNav to see how it compares for handsfree calling but I plan too. If it is compatible to the OEM bluetooth setup I would switch to the RSnav one. Using the OEM one works pretty seamlessly with the RSnav but the ability to use google assistant to voice dial and/or dial from a email etc would be nice.

    Android auto is a personal choice, I like to have my phone idle and charging while I drive except for phone calls. Since the RSnav is more than capable of running all of the car apps I want (Waze, streaming music etc) I simply tether the RSnav to my phones wifi hotspot and use it as a separate system.

    Hope that is helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giggidy1 View Post
    So how do people usually run their S3 unit?

    1) Android Auto or Apple Carplay wired?
    2) Bluetooth connectivity for phone calls/music and run Google Maps/Waze via the S3 android unit?
    I must be the odd guy out, as I don't do either of those.

    I run Android Auto on the S3 as a standalone unit, not connected to my phone. I did this on the S1 too. I have a data SIM in the unit, so I don't need connectivity to my phone for data. And I have a Micro SD card for storage that I load up with music (or to flash updates), which is what I listen to mostly, though sometimes I stream music/comedy for some variety.

    I do have the unit logged into my Google account, which makes it easy for me to look up destinations on my desktop PC, and easily push the destination to my phone or RSNav. Later, when I pop in the car, the destination is already listed in Android Auto and I just select it.

    On the S1, I had bluetooth for calls going through the original Audi bluetooth, as the S1 was horrible audio quality for calls and was unusable. I plan to retest this on the S3, once I get the blackscreen boot loops issue resolved.

    Also on the S1, I tried Android Auto connected through my phone, and I hated it. The resolution and screen layout was horrible, plus I had to plug in the phone to make it work. I just didn't understand why this was better than running AA standalone on the S1. Perhaps the experience is better on the S3, though I'm struggling to understand why I would want to do this. I see how if I had a regular car with an Android Auto interface that it would allow me to have the Android experience in my non-android running vehicle. But the RSNav is already Android, so I get the Android experience including Android Auto, even without a phone, and in my mind it is a superior experience vs. connecting to the phone.

    On the downside, I don't see notifications/text/emails messages since I'm not connected to my phone. But that's a downside I can live with, as when I'm driving I really don't need or want these extra distractions. Plus, interacting with your phone to text or do social media is illegal in my state (something I fully agree with). I don't see how using the RSNav to do the same would be any better or safer.

    So for those of you connecting your Android phone to do Android Auto, why? Do you really like it better than standalone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharrisct25 View Post
    So I may be very different than others but I do not use RSnav for Android Auto OR Bluetooth.

    I do not use bluetooth because my car happens to have the OEM bluetooth already. It had far superior sounds quality than the earlier versions of the RSNav. I have not yet tested the new S3 RSNav to see how it compares for handsfree calling but I plan too. If it is compatible to the OEM bluetooth setup I would switch to the RSnav one. Using the OEM one works pretty seamlessly with the RSnav but the ability to use google assistant to voice dial and/or dial from a email etc would be nice.

    Android auto is a personal choice, I like to have my phone idle and charging while I drive except for phone calls. Since the RSnav is more than capable of running all of the car apps I want (Waze, streaming music etc) I simply tether the RSnav to my phones wifi hotspot and use it as a separate system.

    Hope that is helpful.

    Wow, we seem to be on the same page on a lot of items, nearly everything! My S4 is white too, by the way ;)

    I should say that the data SIM card I'm using only cost me $10 to buy, and it piggy-backs on my phone's data plan (Google Fi, if you're curious). Not only do I only pay for the data I use, I pay the same regardless of whether the data came through my phone as a WiFi hotspot, or directly to the RSNav via the data SIM. As a bonus, if I somehow lost my phone (gasp... don't even want to think about it), the RSNav would still be fully functional.

    One thing I'm super happy about is that the S3's WiFi is great now. The S1's WiFi wasn't really usable, so most of my software updates and map downloads all went through my SIM card, costing me an extra $10 or so bucks each month. Plus, my driveway is in a bit of a dead zone cell wise, so I had to go for a drive to do software updates! Now, on the S3 I can do all the updates in my driveway over WiFi for free, with a great signal and fast speeds. Also the cell signal is better too, it works in my driveway fine. The S3 is so fast, it only takes a couple minutes in the driveway to do software/map updates.
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    Too funny. I like your idea of running Android auto native on the RSNav I may try that because Amazon music will not run in split screen so Android Auto would give me music control while watching Waze. I bet there is a way to get some/all of the notifications on the RSNav too. If it works for a Android watch / fitbit there is probably some sort of software to push them to the RSNav also.

    Interesting direction I may have to try that.

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    If you set your display resolution to 1920x720 (or whatever the max setting is, Android Auto will revert to the native multi view. Here is a pic of Waze and Spotify. Pretty sure Amazon Music should accomodate this
    Quote Originally Posted by sharrisct25 View Post
    Too funny. I like your idea of running Android auto native on the RSNav I may try that because Amazon music will not run in split screen so Android Auto would give me music control while watching Waze. I bet there is a way to get some/all of the notifications on the RSNav too. If it works for a Android watch / fitbit there is probably some sort of software to push them to the RSNav also.

    Interesting direction I may have to try that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharrisct25 View Post
    Too funny. I like your idea of running Android auto native on the RSNav I may try that because Amazon music will not run in split screen so Android Auto would give me music control while watching Waze. I bet there is a way to get some/all of the notifications on the RSNav too. If it works for a Android watch / fitbit there is probably some sort of software to push them to the RSNav also.

    Interesting direction I may have to try that.

    Amazon Music... too funny, that's what I use too.

    Here's a tip about using apps with native Android Auto. Use Android Auto to browse for and install the AA compatible apps you want to use - not sure that this is actually required but in my experience this seems to help make sure they show up inside AA. Then after installing a music app, you want to run that app outside of AA first to configure it, as you won't be able to set up everything from inside AA.

    One final tip (because this one frustrated me for weeks until my friend pointed it out), to change music apps in Android Auto, first press the headphones to change into music mode, and only then does the headphones icon change to include a drop down arrow. Press it a second time to see a list of your installed AA compatible music apps.

    I think you can change the navigation to Waze in AA too, but I've never tried.
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    Thanks for the tip. I may try doing Android Auto native later this week.

    In the meantime I have started posting videos to my youtube channel. The unboxing video is up already and the install video should be there by tommorrow. If anybody wants to see them you can find a link to my videos on my site https://sharrisny31.wixsite.com/b8s4carbon

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharrisct25 View Post
    Thanks for the tip. I may try doing Android Auto native later this week.

    In the meantime I have started posting videos to my youtube channel. The unboxing video is up already and the install video should be there by tommorrow. If anybody wants to see them you can find a link to my videos on my site https://sharrisny31.wixsite.com/b8s4carbon
    Thanks for posting the video. It's very helpful.

    I'll be installing mine and doing a color instrument cluster display swap in the next week or so. I just need to order the trim/radio removal tools and set aside a day. I'm really looking forward to the upgrade.
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    Glad to know it was helpful. What instrument cluster swap you doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharrisct25 View Post
    Glad to know it was helpful. What instrument cluster swap you doing?
    Just a simple monochrome to color from an S-line B8 A4. Donor car is the S-line that provided my stone guards too. It's crazy how "basic" the monochrome display looks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharrisct25 View Post
    Glad to know it was helpful. What instrument cluster swap you doing?
    Please let me know if you figure out the Wireless stuff. Still working on that myself.

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    If I hear anything from Daniel I will let you know. I have stopped trying the Wireless AA because I am pretty sure the problem is the permissions in the Android OS. There are a bunch of security things that block apps from being able to enable wifi hotspots automatically. That needs to happen for AA Wireless to work. The RSNav OS is complicated enough I would not want to try and go hack around in it so I will leave it to Daniel to sort.

    I am going to try the suggestion of running AA native on the RSnav. Then if that works well I may consider trying to find a way to get my notifications and text echoed to the RSnav like they are when you use a smartwatch.

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    Daniel,

    Though I've tried many times, the log.zip file is always empty.

    After the unit acted up yesterday, I could not get it to start back up all all yesterday or this morning. I tried my VAG scanner again, since that worked last time, but it didn't help this time. Finally, I unplugged and plugged the RSNav back in, and it booted right up.

    I went ahead and did the Factory Reset, and reconfigured everything including the Factory Settings. I also re-enabled logging after the reset. The unit blackscreened on me several more times, and each time I exported the log, but the log.zip in the root of the filesystem was always empty. I even checked the timestamp on the file to make sure it was being written to, and it was current.

    While troubleshooting this afternoon, I had a couple more observations. One is that sometimes it seems the unit blackscreens right as I press it. Not always, often it does it on its own with no help from me, but it's now happened enough times right as I press the screen that I feel confident in saying pressing on it is a factor. While exploring this some more while the unit was blackscreened and not responding, I also started to notice a very muted electrical pop through the speakers as I lightly pushed or pulled on the unit. In a certain position, I sensed that the unit charged up in the speakers, and then releasing or applying pressure I sensed the pop as it sounded like it discharged.

    I took the unit off the mount, and played around with the wires and noticed the same quiet electrical pop, kind of like the sound of turning off a home speaker amplifier when you turn it off. At first I thought it was coming from the LVDS cable, but even after I unplugged it, I still could get it to make the pop noise. It didn't matter which wires I wiggled, they all caused the pop - I could even lightly press on the LVDS connector without the cable plugged in, and make the noise happen. It doesn't seem like static electrical discharge or feedback. If I had to guess, the mainboard has a power circuit that is cutting off/on with any light pressure on the circuit board. This might tie back in with one of your ideas, that there is a bad solder joint somewhere on the board. It only stopped making the pop after I unplugged the main white connector, so I definitely wasn't imagining it.

    I also found that by lightly pushing/pulling/titling the unit in the mount (fractions of a millimeter), seemed to affect the units ability to boot up. I tried to determine if the unit only booted before the pop or after the pop, but I could not be certain which way. Perhaps the mainboard is marginal - depending upon the amount of stress placed on the unit via the cable harnesses, it either works perfectly or power cuts out.

    EDIT: I thought about trying to make a video of me pressing on the screen and the pop noise through the speakers, but the sound is so quiet I don't think the video would record the noise. I have really good hearing, and I could barely make out the sound, which is why I hadn't noticed it before. Also, engine was off during all of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elpeterson View Post
    You have the option to switch bluetooth over to Audi OEM in the options if your vehicle is equipped with it. Like Daniel had said to me, the sound quality is greatly improved over OEM unit however the EQ is set pretty neutrally. Since fiddling with my EQ I am greatly impressed with the improvement.

    Because wireless is an option, though a bit of a mystery right now, your phone can still remain fully idle and charging by your own means while you leveraging AA to it's fullest potential. My plan is to purchase the quick charge retrofit for the ash tray in my car to fully remove wires altogether.

    Waze, Maps, Spotify etc are all executed flawless within RSNav, but their own implementation within Android Auto, especially on the 10"+ screens is pretty spectacular. Definitely worth giving it a shot.
    What's the quick charge retrofit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by giggidy1 View Post
    What's the quick charge retrofit?
    I'll have to find it again because I didn't save it. Someone makes an ash tray delete that replaces it with a nice quick charging wireless pad.

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    So I tried that but had not great experience with it. I opted to wire in a wireless holder for my phone instead. Here are the things to consider about the ashtray location for a quick charge.

    --The one I had at least was fully flat and not sticky enough to keep the phone from sliding off during driving, even when not aggressive.
    --The location in general is hard to see when driving and even harder to reach so your phone has to be completely off and unused which in my experience was not common.
    --The quickcharge pad I got made it hard for the ashtray cover to close anymore

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    I also heard from Daniel. I updated my initial post on page 101 to show any responses I got. In addition he told me to email a person named Mrs. May at [email protected] to request the missing Y adapter for the OEM GPS connection. She responded to me within 24 hours and is shipping it to me now.

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    So I think I've found the missing piece to the wireless setup. I can pair my phone to GOCSDK, which is the Bluetooth in the RSNav apps list. However if you go into the Android settings, there is no way to pair Bluetooth there. It never searches for new devices or shows as discoverable. Has anyone gotten the Android side of RSNav to pair with their device?

    Edit: Another question, how do you update the unit if one ces along?
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    does rsnav have the ability to do the 360 cam? saw that on one of the other ones, the dmp one. any hd camera options for front camera or is the ahd only for the rear? anyone messed around with the dsp and eq functions? is there any way for this to output to the cluster display for navigation prompts and controlling from the steering wheel control wheel?

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    Hi Daniel,

    I just joined the forum after getting my 14 Allroad. Would you share where you got the Android Deck? THX

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    I have my S3 unit installed in my Q5 2015, so far so good. I want to install the SlingTV app to hear news (I am not planning to watch TV - of course for security reasons). The SlingTV app is available and I am able to install it and to login in the service but when I select a channel I get a black screen and no audio. Is there anyone having the same problem? any advice?. BTW, I also found that Netflix was not avaibale in the Play store but i found a way to install an old version of Netlfix that made the magic for me.

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