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    Lightbulb DIY – ECS swivel exhaust tips – no weld method and ECS X-pipe

    DIY – ECS swivel exhaust tips – no weld method

    Tools:
    Jack stands or ramps
    Reciprocating saw – metal blades
    Dremel tool – metal cutters and sanders
    4 X 2Ό” ID to 2½” OD pipe adapters (see pictures)
    4 X 2Ό” muffler clamps
    Muffler paste
    Socket set – believe I was using ½” sockets – nothing out of the ordinary
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    To start, initially I just wanted a better looking tip than the standard ovals, really nothing more than that. I’ve contemplated various units that would have needed welded on, in the $30 to $40 per range…but most of my friends that have the welding equipment, typically don’t weld stainless.

    The initial costs of the ECS tip was hard to overcome (at $240), but thinking that this would have been a cut and mount method seemed to make the choice justified. Thus I spent what I consider a shit ton of money for tips, and was quickly disappointed when I found they were not a direct fit. Adding 4 extensions and clamps - total price of these ended up just north of $270. That's a bit for some ass end aesthetics - needless, here's what I did.

    For the first part of this process, I wanted to see how far out the stock tips extended past the bumper, as I wanted the new tips to be about the same.


    Once I had that down – it was time for jack stands. I have car ramps…and would suggest if you have those, to go that route first. Once lifted, I began to cut the outer most tip off. I originally thought these original tips were tacked on, but see that it’s more than just that. Needless, the metal blade on the reciprocating saw did the trick here, cut right were the oval becomes round. On cutting the outside, you will cut some of the inner pipe (as seen in the pic). I didn’t see any issues in doing this.
    ECS tips 2.jpg

    Once I had cut this, I quickly ran into two problems.

    1st, the swivel socket end of the ESC tips are 2½” – and the pipe as you can see above – 2Ό”. Even in the tightest setting – there was no way this was going to fit on this.
    2nd, even if this did fit, the cut was so far back, it would have sat 2+ inches under the bumper. This needed to be extended out.

    From this, I went to your typical AutoZone and picked up the only two 2Ό” ID to 2½” OD pipe adapters of these they had. Also made a subsequent trip to Advance Auto to pick up the only two they had (seems these places only keep two of everything – something to keep in mind when driving around).

    These adaptors seems to be perfect for the amount of extension required as well.
    ECS tips 3.jpg

    A little test fit to see how these would be extended out.
    ECS tips 4.jpg

    And from there, it was cut away city. On the inner pipes, you can see that where it goes round is about an inch further extended than the inner pipes. This will help provide the staggered look…
    ECS tips 5.jpg

    You will want to take your Dremel tool and clean up all the burs created from the reciprocating saw…only takes a minute or two.
    ECS tips 6.jpg

    Once everything was cut, I set the clamps on the pipes – but did not tighten at this point. I found it was easier to place and tighten the swivel tips to the extenders – with the bolts facing up first.
    There’s a piece of metal sitting inside the swivel tip – personally moving it around didn’t really swivel the tips as I thought, but didn’t seem to have much of a clearance issue that needed to be addressed. I set these so the bands opened to the outside (away from each other) and the open end on the outside pipes faced out – inside pipes open end in.
    ECS tips 7.jpg

    From this point, it was just a tightening game – making sure the tips were tight to the pipe extension, and then tightened the extension to the muffler. While doing this, keeping the ECS logo up – and the tips extended where I wanted them.
    ECS tips 8.jpg

    ECS tips 9.jpg
    Final thoughts on these – I’m okay with the looks, probably would have rather had a double wall slant, but these aren’t bad. Knowing now that I needed extensions, I would have bought the weld on ones and just tacked them to the extension and clamped. Just seems to be a waste having 2 bolt on parts here.


    With this, I also added the ECS X-Pipe. The unit was on backorder – but just received it the other day. Installation on these are really simple if you have the right tools.

    ECS has a really good right up on these – so there’s no real reason to dig into this again here. But, I will say that I do think there’s an issue with how much they have you take off the passenger side (or better put, what they have you leave). As you can see in the pic below, there’s a pretty big difference in what’s taken off the resonator pipe to what you see on the X-Pipe.
    ECS X Pipe.jpg

    From what I can see here, seems to be about an inch. Only reason why I believe this is an issue – it’s now extended the passenger side tips about ½” over the driver side. Most won’t notice, but I can. I’ll need to get back under there to clean this up. Once I figure out what this is, I’ll post a follow up.


    With this, I’ll post some sound clips when I get a moment…just need to get them up on youtube.
    From there, still waiting for my custom wheels – been 5 weeks now…they are saying they should be finished soon.
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    I think it looks great, probably sounds a bit better too with the ecs x pipe. It's amazing how some bigger tips really transform the look of the rear end of the car. What would you say you are into this total, tips and x-pipe?
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    Okay - here's the sound clip before and after. Don't have it all fancy stating which is which, but I'm sure you can figure that out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeeDubbinJetta View Post
    I think it looks great, probably sounds a bit better too with the ecs x pipe. It's amazing how some bigger tips really transform the look of the rear end of the car. What would you say you are into this total, tips and x-pipe?
    Thanks - appreciate the compliment

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    Accessories to put the tips in - $25
    X Pipe - $250
    The fact I have no drone - priceless
    If my wife ever figures out what I did - my marriage (how she can't see if beyond me)

    Total cost is just north of $500 - give or take any upcoming lawyer fees
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShopVac View Post
    Thanks - appreciate the compliment

    Tips - $240
    Accessories to put the tips in - $25
    X Pipe - $250
    The fact I have no drone - priceless
    If my wife ever figures out what I did - my marriage (how she can't see if beyond me)

    Total cost is just north of $500 - give or take any upcoming lawyer fees
    Hahaha I feel your pain man, wife thinks my car is bone stock I'm I'm EPL stage 2, Roc Euro, cr 15 strut brace, etc.

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    always wonder why people marry chicks like that and then keep it shady.. hope you're joking.

    sounds / looks great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD S4 View Post
    always wonder why people marry chicks like that and then keep it shady.. hope you're joking.

    sounds / looks great.

    Ha....agreed. My wife encourages/enables my hobbies.

    I really like the way those tips look BTW. The rolled edge beats the 'knife edge' offered by some other exhaust system manufacturers IMO. It's much easier to keep the rolled edge clean and bright for visual definition of the exhaust outlets, than it is for the thinner edge variety.
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    Looks/sounds great! I'll mention the that we may need to review the PDF and where we mention where to cut.

    Jason

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    Looks good!

    As for the wife, she orders clothes and shit in the mail at least a couple times a week, and I usually stay quiet. I order parts when I feel it's time as don't mention it to her. She still thinks the pulley that just got installed was a maintenance item lol.

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    i will be buying these tips and doing OPs method.

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    i completed OPs method over the weekend.


    but rather than using adapters, i folded aluminum sheets to keep the inlet snug.




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    Quote Originally Posted by JeriQo View Post
    i completed OPs method over the weekend.


    but rather than using adapters, i folded aluminum sheets to keep the inlet snug.




    How did you get them on? My pipes are way too close together so I can’t get the 2 tips on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vitopat View Post
    How did you get them on? My pipes are way too close together so I can’t get the 2 tips on.


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    slid right in. the 3.5 outlets/2.5 inlet wont have any issues. even the 8.5 ive read can easily accomodate 4inch outs
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeriQo View Post
    slid right in. the 3.5 outlets/2.5 inlet wont have any issues. even the 8.5 ive read can easily accomodate 4inch outs
    I got some tips with a 4”outlet/2.25” inlet . I went over to Midas to get them installed, they cut off my stock tips, tried to put on my upgraded ones and had no luck. Still charged me the full amount lol.
    I’ve seen people do it before tho. Maybe you got any suggestions?


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    Quote Originally Posted by vitopat View Post
    How did you get them on? My pipes are way too close together so I can’t get the 2 tips on.


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    Sorry to bump such an old thread, but the ones in the link are the exact ones? Pictured on the eBay ad looks different from what you actually have- there also looks like a "catinbow" stamp on the side of the tips?! Do you have a shot of the rear of your car directly on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ornithology View Post
    Sorry to bump such an old thread, but the ones in the link are the exact ones? Pictured on the eBay ad looks different from what you actually have- there also looks like a "catinbow" stamp on the side of the tips?! Do you have a shot of the rear of your car directly on?
    Ru looking for some tips with clamps, bec I have some fs, brand new lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeriQo View Post
    i completed OPs method over the weekend.


    but rather than using adapters, i folded aluminum sheets to keep the inlet snug.




    Do you have a link to the tips you used? And 3.5" outlet?

    **EDIT** wow I am dumb, just noticed you posted right before on the previous page.

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    I'm still digging the visual appeal of these exhaust tips, but I think I would not be satisfied with the sound by just swapping out the middle resonator for an x-pipe. I'll have to listen to some more sound clips and see what I think.
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    Any drone with just the X? Seems like a nice upgrade in sound with minimal interior resonance or body boom. SEEMS like a 10-15% increase in volume with no drone around that 1,800-2,500RPM range.

    I am debating an ECS X pipe(or 034) vs the Magnaflow 11385 in the center resonator and maybe two Vibrant UltraQuiet resonators in place of the OEM mufflers.

    Thanks man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman715 View Post
    Any drone with just the X? Seems like a nice upgrade in sound with minimal interior resonance or body boom. SEEMS like a 10-15% increase in volume with no drone around that 1,800-2,500RPM range.

    I am debating an ECS X pipe(or 034) vs the Magnaflow 11385 in the center resonator and maybe two Vibrant UltraQuiet resonators in place of the OEM mufflers.

    Thanks man.

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    There was drone with just the x-pipe. Initially, I didn't think it was bad...but the Mrs hated it. Ended up putting in the Magnaflow for the baby res in front of the ECS X-pipe....which took care of the raspy sound at high RPMs and much of the drone at the 2500 RPM range. Only thing is, I think it's too quiet now. The ECS pipe had a ton of little 'pops' when shifting, when it was all I had...those are mostly gone.

    But what's the saying - happy wife, happy life? It's not a bad setup - little louder, not annoying.
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