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    I got a bunch of Eurocode parts installed last Fall on my S6. Front and rear sway bars were part of that install. About a week ago I start hearing a crunch / spring compression type noise while traveling down bumpy, rolling roads at low speeds. Thinking it was one of the notorious front end clunk sources on our cars I took it to the dealership. Dealership could not find anything abnormal with the OEM suspension. I then described the noise to shop that did Eurocode install and guys there were very confident that the front sway bar bushings were the source, and needed to be regreased. Dealership did it, noise is gone. I've put approx 6K miles on the car since the Eurocode parts were added. The car has been driven in winter conditions.

    Has anyone else had this occur?
    How long did yours make it before they needed to be regreased?
    Any ideas on how to prolong the time interval between sway bar bushing regreasing?
    Anyway to regrease the bushings without removing bars and bushings?

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    Wrap the bar with teflon tape where the bushing sits
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    I get the issue every 40,000 miles or so. EC sells a rebuild kit, which I have done once in the front and once in the rear. Always fixes the problem.
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    i used the dust boots and greased them good so far nothing different then normal noise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin1 View Post
    I get mine greased every 20,000 miles or so. In addition, EC sells a rebuild kit, which I have done once.
    thanks for reply,

    what's the benefit of the rebuild kit?

    Quote Originally Posted by fatherdeath View Post
    i used the dust boots and greased them good so far nothing different then normal noise
    thanks for reply,

    I thought the dust boots were only for the endlinks?

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    It's the end links that cause the squeak usually the bushings that came with the red plastic things have had no issue those are also greased

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherdeath View Post
    It's the end links that cause the squeak usually the bushings that came with the red plastic things have had no issue those are also greased
    that hasn't been my experience thus far

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherdeath View Post
    It's the end links that cause the squeak usually the bushings that came with the red plastic things have had no issue those are also greased
    Endlinks clunk and bushings squeak
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    Quote Originally Posted by 14S4GWM View Post
    Wrap the bar with teflon tape where the bushing sits
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    Squeak is common with polyurethane sway bar bushings.

    Standard solution is often to use: Energy Suspension 9.11110 3 Pack - Formula 5 Prelube


    I have not tried the teflon tape, yet.
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    Reviving this thread that I started. Just got home from long road trip in S6. Hadn't noticed squeak until I started driving up hill to my house. So I plan to take it in and get them regreased with this http://www.suspension.com/9.11110

    And maybe ask they try some teflon tape.

    Does anyone else have any advice?
    Has anyone done this with only a floor jack & jack stands? I'd be willing to give it a try but seems like a lot of work under such tight conditions without a lift.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Itís exactly this sort of shiz that makes me hesitant to do the sways and end links...
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    Teflon tape for sure, never had a squeak on any vehicle doing this with the bars.

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    Where does the tape go? What kind do you guys use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rnp614 View Post
    Where does the tape go? What kind do you guys use?
    Standard teflon tape used for plumbing applications. Just wrap the bar where the bushings go onto the bar. Puts the tape between the bushing and the bar.

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    What about drilling a small hole in the bushing and using a greasing needle to occasionally inject grease into it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packy View Post
    What about drilling a small hole in the bushing and using a greasing needle to occasionally inject grease into it?
    I suspect since the bar doesn't rotate that much (maybe 10į if that much?) a dedicated greasing nipple won't help that much unless you maybe add them on both sides or 4 sides but you might endanger the structure of the mount. But indeed bit odd there wasn't something added to maintaince it easier....
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    I know when I installed sway bars on my G37 there were Zerk fittings for bushings. The bushing had a small hole to match up to the Zerk location so the grease will reach the bar. If you don't grease poly bushings, they will squeak like crazy and its irritating.

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    I had my fronts and rears installed by dealer and it was a nightmare of noise. Took it to an amazing local shop - they re-greased tightened but I could still hear noise over some compression or elevation changes. Took them off.

    A few months later put the rear back (fronts are in a box) on when I got my Alu Kruez - and none of the squeaks. I do still hear some slight noise from the rear...and can't tell if it was there before and I just never noticed it (not likely with my ears) or I need to have the rear end looked at again.

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    I have had the EC sway bars and end links on my old C6 and my current C7. The end links have typically lasted 40,000 between maintenance. At least in the NYC area. EC sells rebuild kits. Well worth the ride improvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bpd View Post
    Thanks for the link

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin1 View Post
    I have had the EC sway bars and end links on my old C6 and my current C7. The end links have typically lasted 40,000 between maintenance. At least in the NYC area. EC sells rebuild kits. Well worth the ride improvement.
    My S6 Eurocode rear sway bar endlinks started clunking at less than 10k miles, less than two years. The fronts are still quiet, so far.

    On my S4, the end links lasted 30k miles, 3 years, before clunking.

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    Can you describe the squeak? I have a noise that i canít figure out and it comes and goes. I hear it most when the car like goes over a dip. I have Alu Kreuz and 034 rear sway. After reading these I think itís the rear sway


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    Happens at low speeds when the bars are not under stress. It sounds like something is loose. It is sort of a mix of a squeak/thud.
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    For those of you who had the end links wear out and clunk, how many of you had the optional rubber boots installed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TD_05 View Post
    Reviving this thread that I started. Just got home from long road trip in S6. Hadn't noticed squeak until I started driving up hill to my house. So I plan to take it in and get them regreased with this http://www.suspension.com/9.11110

    And maybe ask they try some teflon tape.

    Does anyone else have any advice?
    Has anyone done this with only a floor jack & jack stands? I'd be willing to give it a try but seems like a lot of work under such tight conditions without a lift.

    Thanks in advance!
    You can do this fairly easily with just a floor jack and jack stands, since you'll only be sliding the bushings off or over to regrease them and adding Teflon tape to the bars. Since you shouldn't have to pull the bars out entirely, you shouldn't have to use too many swear words. Even then, it's doable to do the full install of fronts and rear with a jack and jackstands- just annoying trying to manipulate the bars and links in and out of the car.
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    Good thread. Guys I'm trying to solve a clunk in my front end. It happens while backing up as I turn the wheel. When turning at this slow speed I get a series of 3 clunks from front right. This showed up a few thousand miles after drop springs and strut install. I re-torqued the cross brace which was not the culprit. I also, last week, re-torqued the front sway bar end links- this seemed to drastically reduce the clunk for a few days, but now it's back in full effect.
    Sound like end links, even though it mostly happens while turning wheel at low speeds?
    My theory is the new lower ride height is wearing the end link bushings in new places, I dunno. It's driving me insane and I hate my car right now and sorta feel like burning it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TD_05 View Post
    I got a bunch of Eurocode parts installed last Fall on my S6. Front and rear sway bars were part of that install. About a week ago I start hearing a crunch / spring compression type noise while traveling down bumpy, rolling roads at low speeds. Thinking it was one of the notorious front end clunk sources on our cars I took it to the dealership. Dealership could not find anything abnormal with the OEM suspension. I then described the noise to shop that did Eurocode install and guys there were very confident that the front sway bar bushings were the source, and needed to be regreased. Dealership did it, noise is gone. I've put approx 6K miles on the car since the Eurocode parts were added. The car has been driven in winter conditions.

    Has anyone else had this occur?
    How long did yours make it before they needed to be regreased?
    Any ideas on how to prolong the time interval between sway bar bushing regreasing?
    Anyway to regrease the bushings without removing bars and bushings?

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    Well mine S7 Eurocode front sway bar just broke to half, it just broke with no reason, low quality material it seems. Also they squeak all the time, I advise to stay away of these products if you live in a cold, snowy place where they but lot of salt in the winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logtec View Post
    Well mine S7 Eurocode front sway bar just broke to half, it just broke with no reason, low quality material it seems. Also they squeak all the time, I advise to stay away of these products if you live in a cold, snowy place where they but lot of salt in the winter.
    I'm very surprised and sorry to hear that the bar had just broke for no reason. I haven't seen or heard of that happening in the years we have been selling and installing them. Could you please send some photos of the bar and end links to us at info@ecodetuning.com ? We would like to figure out what may have been the issue for this.

    In reference to the squeaks and knocks. Yes you do need to grease the bushing over time. There is no set mileage that you need to do this. Some people never experience it, some people experience it after 10 or 20 thousand miles. There are a lot of variables such as install, weather, conditions of the roads where you live, etc. As someone had mentioned above you can accomplish this relatively easy by loosening the brackets and just popping off the bushing, the whole bar does not need to be removed.

    For the knocking, again the spherical bearings do wear down over time. They are motor sport items so they are not designed to reduce NVH or increase comfort, they are designed to allow adjustment of length to remove any preload on the bar from altering the suspension, as well as removing the OEM rubber bushing which absorbs some of the energy when cornering vs transferring 100% of it. Again, installation is a big factor into these items and make sure every lock nut is torqued down and tightened to prevent any unwanted movement. For customers down here in southern California, we rarely have to service the end links once installed correctly and the rubber dust boots are filled with grease and ziptied off.

    I hope this helps answer some of the questions here, but I'm happy to answer any other questions you guys may have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Info@EuroCode View Post
    I'm very surprised and sorry to hear that the bar had just broke for no reason. I haven't seen or heard of that happening in the years we have been selling and installing them. Could you please send some photos of the bar and end links to us at info@ecodetuning.com ? We would like to figure out what may have been the issue for this.

    In reference to the squeaks and knocks. Yes you do need to grease the bushing over time. There is no set mileage that you need to do this. Some people never experience it, some people experience it after 10 or 20 thousand miles. There are a lot of variables such as install, weather, conditions of the roads where you live, etc. As someone had mentioned above you can accomplish this relatively easy by loosening the brackets and just popping off the bushing, the whole bar does not need to be removed.

    For the knocking, again the spherical bearings do wear down over time. They are motor sport items so they are not designed to reduce NVH or increase comfort, they are designed to allow adjustment of length to remove any preload on the bar from altering the suspension, as well as removing the OEM rubber bushing which absorbs some of the energy when cornering vs transferring 100% of it. Again, installation is a big factor into these items and make sure every lock nut is torqued down and tightened to prevent any unwanted movement. For customers down here in southern California, we rarely have to service the end links once installed correctly and the rubber dust boots are filled with grease and ziptied off.

    I hope this helps answer some of the questions here, but I'm happy to answer any other questions you guys may have.
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    Yes I can send the pictures tomorrow when the Audi dealer buts the oem back on, they just discovered it today when I went to the service hearing weird noises in the front. They just told its completely half broken, no scratches nothing, just cleanly broken to half. Im thinking maybe its the cold weather what we have here and lot of salt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanlada View Post
    For those of you who had the end links wear out and clunk, how many of you had the optional rubber boots installed?
    I have the rubber boots
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    Itís exactly this sort of shiz that makes me hesitant to do the sways and end links...

    Me too. How about just installing the front/rear EC sways??? Even if the EC end-links are better, I don't want to be d*cking with this crap. I want the car as reliable as OEM, even if bodyroll is a bit more than EC end-links. In fact, I'm so hesitant to change anything on cars nowadays, will try lowering car via VCDS first, and see if that's enough, or still need sways. Good afternoon to all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elptxjc View Post
    Itís exactly this sort of shiz that makes me hesitant to do the sways and end links...

    Me too. How about just installing the front/rear EC sways??? Even if the EC end-links are better, I don't want to be d*cking with this crap. I want the car as reliable as OEM, even if bodyroll is a bit more than EC end-links. In fact, I'm so hesitant to change anything on cars nowadays, will try lowering car via VCDS first, and see if that's enough, or still need sways. Good afternoon to all.
    I think the front/rear EC sways are definitely worth it, since the handling is much improved.

    Adding the EC end links is a personal decision (just as catback is a personal decision) and depends on how tolerant you are to the possible hassle of replacement or rebuild.

    One other benefit of the EC end links is an easier install, since there is no need to torque the endlinks down with the suspension compressed to normal ride height.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyfishing View Post
    Can you describe the squeak? I have a noise that i canít figure out and it comes and goes. I hear it most when the car like goes over a dip. I have Alu Kreuz and 034 rear sway. After reading these I think itís the rear sway
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    I notice it at low speeds, on roads that have "whoop-de-doos, rolling road. Usually more noticeable, to me at least, when the suspension is recoiling, vs being compressed. Noise sounds like a spring or something being compressed, or maybe a metal bedframe during some ah, you know haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanlada View Post
    For those of you who had the end links wear out and clunk, how many of you had the optional rubber boots installed?
    I have had swaybar bushings re greased at least twice maybe 3 times. Already reverted back to OEM end links, because one time found that noise persisted after swaybars were re greased. This time the noise was a bit unique though. But yes I had boots on endlinks. BTW my car is still sub 25,000 miles. Prob have 15,000 miles on sway bar, alu kruz

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    Quote Originally Posted by OlyS6 View Post
    You can do this fairly easily with just a floor jack and jack stands, since you'll only be sliding the bushings off or over to regrease them and adding Teflon tape to the bars. Since you shouldn't have to pull the bars out entirely, you shouldn't have to use too many swear words. Even then, it's doable to do the full install of fronts and rear with a jack and jackstands- just annoying trying to manipulate the bars and links in and out of the car.
    This is interesting, I may give this a try. Shop that did install is a long ways away, no one local that I really want to use. Dealership also 4 hrs away

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    Quote Originally Posted by elptxjc View Post
    Itís exactly this sort of shiz that makes me hesitant to do the sways and end links...

    Me too. How about just installing the front/rear EC sways??? Even if the EC end-links are better, I don't want to be d*cking with this crap. I want the car as reliable as OEM, even if bodyroll is a bit more than EC end-links. In fact, I'm so hesitant to change anything on cars nowadays, will try lowering car via VCDS first, and see if that's enough, or still need sways. Good afternoon to all.
    While I am doing a fair amount of bitching, I would still recommend the sway bars. I did them along with AK, the car handles much much better, way less body roll. Poly bushings squeak, this is well known, just something that has to be dealt with.

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    One other benefit of the EC end links is an easier install, since there is no need to torque the endlinks down with the suspension compressed to normal ride height.

    Thanks for the heads-up. But what does that mean? No SAFE DIY installation possible of just EC sways with a pair of Rhino ramps? At this point, I don't want end-links; just sways, if at all (still have to drive the car in the twisties just lowered). Thanks.

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    You want sway bars if you even care a little about handling in corners. Lowering will not make up for the impact of adding the sway bars.

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