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    In for Pulls of Ultracharged S4 vs Standard Stage 2 cars on pump gas.

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    Most of the members here run an intake, pulley, and tune....maybe a cat back. And most of us run pump gas.

    The next logical step in modifying is to jump to a dual pulley ultracharged car.

    Screw dynos. Screw track times.

    I want to see some 20mph, 40mph, and 60mph pulls between the car most of us run vs the upgrade we're all considering.

    How much harder does it pull?

    I want to see a head to head.

    Last year when that piece of shit SC upgrade came out there were numbers flying around all over the place. Then if i'm not mistaken one ran 10's....and we got all excited....then we all found out it was Gutted....LOL

    THEN...we saw a Stage 3 car vs a GIAC Stage 2 car and the stage 2 car pulled on it...every time. That was...for me...a deciding factor in ever even considering upgrading the SC.

    APR claims there are hundreds of orders for the ultracharger. a few members here have already reported installation.

    Lets see some head to head pulls so we can really decide if it's worth the upgrade.

    Otherwise.....it's just going to be hundreds of pages of back and fourth BS on the internet.
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    thats the most true comment ive seen in a good time tbh.
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    The second anyone I know here in MN gets one there will be a vid

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleDozer View Post
    The second anyone I know here in MN gets one there will be a vid
    Hey, I sent you a PM. Curious to hear what you think about the next steps I should take beyond GIAC Stage 2. I am local to MN too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saleen S7 TT View Post
    Hey, I sent you a PM. Curious to hear what you think about the next steps I should take beyond GIAC Stage 2. I am local to MN too!
    I can run my gutted stage 1 apr 200 a4. Lets see how she does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saleen S7 TT View Post
    Hey, I sent you a PM. Curious to hear what you think about the next steps I should take beyond GIAC Stage 2. I am local to MN too!
    Don't worry I saw it! Will respond soon. Messaging for some reason doesn't work on my laptop, they never send.

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    I think the Moderator should stop all this APR hype until they can give better proof then THEIR Dyno results. I'm sure APR pays a good price to say what they want anyway so that's not happening anytime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasDfwS4 View Post
    I think the Moderator should stop all this APR hype until they can give better proof then THEIR Dyno results. I'm sure APR pays a good price to say what they want anyway so that's not happening anytime soon.
    Vendorzine at its finest. Whole of page one is ultracharger threads 50/50 on it not ending up like the stage 3 supercharger kit. But the second someone posts a forsale thread without pics its locked.

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    wow... rez. I would totally grab a beer with you. I want to see some highway pulls!

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    This is the only thread that should get visibility. I've lost track of all the back and forth in the all the various threads of dyno claims vs. 1/4 times etc.

    I will offer my daily driven AWE/GIAC Stage-2 car in the Atlanta area to record some friendly pulls against an APR dual pulley ultracharged car at the local track. Also the GA wannaGOFAST airstrip drag event is coming up if anyone is interested in running a 1/2 mile event.

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    Whoever gets Ultracharger in NYC and has a 6MT, pm me and we can do some friendly runs for the people of audizine. The only way it would really be more of an apple to apple comparison is if I had a bigger crank pulley as well and at that point the only differentiating factor would be the ultracharger


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    I'm getting Ultra and am in NJ willing to contribute
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    exactly how I feel Rez

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALAN12186 View Post
    I'm getting Ultra and am in NJ willing to contribute
    Best comparison we can do is we do runs now and then after ultra charger same place. Are you 6MT or DSG?


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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic32 View Post
    Best comparison we can do is we do runs now and then after ultra charger same place. Are you 6MT or DSG?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasDfwS4 View Post
    I think the Moderator should stop all this APR hype until they can give better proof then THEIR Dyno results. I'm sure APR pays a good price to say what they want anyway so that's not happening anytime soon.
    I believe the consumers created the hype. And here you go: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...dependent-dyno

    Quote Originally Posted by tar View Post
    Vendorzine at its finest. Whole of page one is ultracharger threads 50/50 on it not ending up like the stage 3 supercharger kit. But the second someone posts a forsale thread without pics its locked.
    The Ultracharger is a hot topic right now with multiple vendors creating their own respective threads/posts to the subject. If you don't want those threads on the first page, you can simply ask your fellow Audiziners to stop posting on the threads because the vendors are not bumping these threads up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasDfwS4 View Post
    I think the Moderator should stop all this APR hype until they can give better proof then THEIR Dyno results. I'm sure APR pays a good price to say what they want anyway so that's not happening anytime soon.
    I questioned the "3rd party results" that were specifically posted by APR themselves, and not a 3rd party....

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    If there's anyone in the NYC/NJ area with the Ultracharger and would like to do a friendly pull for the masses, please feel free to send me a PM.

    Here are my current upgrades:
    APR Stage 2 ECU with APR pulley
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    I plan to upgrade to the Ultracharger and would like to experience the difference myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALAN12186 View Post
    I'm getting Ultra and am in NJ willing to contribute
    I'm in central NJ. 6MT. Roc Euro, EPL Stage 2. Pump only.

    Lets meet up once your car is done and make some pulls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rez90 View Post
    I'm in central NJ. 6MT. Roc Euro, EPL Stage 3. Pump only.
    EPL Stage 3? That contradicts your thread title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kristokes View Post
    EPL Stage 3? That contradicts your thread title.
    my bad. wrong #. stage 2.
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    Bro he's typing with a surgically repaired ankle and his wife hit a deer with the Stage 3 S4... cut him a break lol

    Also, OP down to meet up. There's some good roads in CNJ that lead to Mexico straights


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    I didn't know he was typing with his foot.

    Maybe we all should meet up to shoot the proverbial shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vwblackb5 View Post
    Bro he's typing with a surgically repaired ankle and his wife hit a deer with the Stage 3 S4... cut him a break lol

    Also, OP down to meet up. There's some good roads in CNJ that lead to Mexico straights


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    stalking much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kristokes View Post
    I believe the consumers created the hype. And here you go: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...dependent-dyno



    The Ultracharger is a hot topic right now with multiple vendors creating their own respective threads/posts to the subject. If you don't want those threads on the first page, you can simply ask your fellow Audiziners to stop posting on the threads because the vendors are not bumping these threads up.
    I see you have APR so that's all I need. Question, did you get a discount?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rez90 View Post
    stalking much?

    jk
    It rubs the lotion on the skin or else it gets the hose again..


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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleDozer View Post
    Don't worry I saw it! Will respond soon. Messaging for some reason doesn't work on my laptop, they never send.
    MN guy here as well, I am debating on the upgrade or not. The numbers like this thread mention are all over the place. Was planning on the coolant system next as I track my vehicle regularly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vwblackb5 View Post
    It rubs the lotion on the skin or else it gets the hose again..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rez90 View Post
    i like you. we should hang out.
    Audizine is the new Tinder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vwblackb5 View Post
    It rubs the lotion on the skin or else it gets the hose again..


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    Yesssss! You win the internet today sir!!

    Also if someone can convince me to spend the money going from stock to ultracharger I'm in the Buffalo area. Otherwise I'm just going DP GIAC

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    I am also unsure. Almost ready to believe all the talk about the APR Ultracharger but let see these comparisons... I am in Central SC and would also be willing to compare with my S4 is stage 2 APR with 034 test pipes and intake. Anyone in this area ir Charlotte im Down.


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