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    Active Member One Ring nagz's Avatar
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    05 Allroad Instrument Cluster problems

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    Alright, so, my 4.2L automatic, when i put the key in, says:

    "PRESS CLUTCH PEDAL TO START ENGINE"


    and, once I start the engine, it shows the oil pressure sensor and brake pad alert (pictured). It also beeps loudly a few times.


    The car runs and drives fine, shifts through all of the gears, speedometer functions, overall works fine, except the cluster (no tach signal either). I bought a VAGCOM cable, and when I go into the programming for 17-Instruments, it shows it is correctly coded as:

    04283

    (04,2,83)
    (MY 02+ Allroad tires, USA, 8 cylinder gas)


    Also, i checked, and it has the newest TCM and it is for the correct model number for this car: 4Z7-927-156-AA and it appears to have to correct soft coding for it's 01V transmission:

    0000102


    Can anyone make any guesses as to what's wrong? I pulled the carpet up to look at the TCM and it looks pristine. Also, in VCDS I can see the RPMs. I hope I can convince someone with an allroad to let me try putting their cluster into my car; we'll see.

    here is the log from the complete scan:
    http://pastebin.com/TRPSr9q7

    Also, as a bonus piece of information, i emailed a cluster repair shop about my cluster and the reply might give extra insight:
    The cluster will typically default to "manual" trans mode if it does not see a signal from the TCU (auto trans control unit). As far as I'm aware, there is no specific coding in that cluster for transmission type, only for ABS pertaining to manual or auto (adaptation CH60 - powertrain CAN bus). Also, the cluster used for manual or auto trans is the same.

    Any fault codes in the transmission? The TCU is sometimes likely to flood with water from clogged drains. The oil pressure could simply be a sensor issue.

    Why would you assume that the cluster was changed? If it was, you will have "double VIN" in the Extra field in 17-Instruments (when logging with ROSS TECH VCDS).

    These clusters are very solid, and not likely to fail, with the exception of fading center LCD panel.
    Last edited by nagz; 03-01-2017 at 07:17 PM.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    The clutch pedal warning will come up when it doesn't see the TCM like noted by cluster place (was testing this on my swap the other day). but you are communicating with it and saying it shifts fine so clearly it is there.

    Maybe wiring issue between TCM and or ecu? or a can connection to the cluster. Have you pulled the cluster to make sure the connectors are seated right and no wiring issues.
    80 rabbit pickup, 98 TJ 4bt cummins, 00 180TTQ 6spd, 02 Freelander, 03 Allroad 2.7t 6spd swap now with K04s, 06 A3 2.0T w/GT3071R (2012 JSW TDI and 2015 GSW TDI now in TDI purgatory )

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    Active Member One Ring nagz's Avatar
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    well, I'll be damned, i got it fixed. It was a programming issue. I was tinkering around in the programming for the instrument and found a sub-menu in VCDS that was like 'basic programming' or something. Anyway, inside there, i found the menu for CAN-PowerTrain (or something) and it had 4 options that could be inserted, something like:

    [screenshot]

    It was previously set to just 2048, so when I tested 2050, all of a sudden the gear select showed up, then 2051 and tach started working, then i added all together since i had all features and left it at 3075.

    damn it feels good to have a car that doesn't beep at me constantly while i drive it !!!!

    ~~I'll upload the screenshots of from VCDS in a day or two when i get my work laptop booted up.~~


    Now on to the other pressing issues: parking sensor, leaking coolant, steering rack and a tire rotation. Yay! (also, bluetooth stereo adapter.)
    Last edited by nagz; 03-20-2017 at 06:05 PM.

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