Turbo failed

[eclipse1]

Dealer says the Turbocharger has completely failed. I feel it too when I'm driving but what are some ways I can confirm that diagnosis? I don't have access to VAG. Please advise. dealer quoted $1450 for parts and half hour of labor as they'll be doing some other tasks which will cut down labor. I know I can get a new turbo cheaper than that but that may not be OEM or Audi part. I've seen that Audi sent a Turbocharger warranty extension to some owners but unfortunately mine isn't covered under the extension! Not sure how they picked those cars when they sent the extension. Anything I can do to have that covered?

Please advise on the cost and validation of their claim.

Thanks.

[bluetori]

What's your mileage?

[Spawne32]

Well, $1450 for a legit turbo is about average, only way to beat that price is with an ebay K03, but I wouldnt recommend that at all.

[eclipse1]

65K miles

[Hunter2011]

Go to an Audi shop, it's going to be so much cheaper than the dealership. I paid $1400 total for an upgraded k03.

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[z50]

Or 1200 more for a k04? just saying

When they break you upgrade!

[eclipse1]

Money is tight. Already spent too much on this car. Have to get this done at the dealer as they're performing other work and labor is included. So there is a upgraded k03?

[red4life5]

I know how it is with money being tight. If anything broke on my b8 right now I wouldnt have a car for a bit... If labor is included I would go to the dealer. At least they will get it done right(hopefully) and that turbo should have some warranty to it. Also the work shows against your VIN if you ever try to sell it and someone wants to see the service records

[bakedziti]

If money is tight, maybe you can convince the dealer to let you source the turbo, and let them complete the work? I tried this when my engine was replaced, and my dealer said they would do it if I sourced the engine from LKQ, but the labor rate was more than the engine so I went elsewhere. If you don't qualify for the turbo warranty extension, I would at least ask if you could source a used turbo; they may play ball with you and worst case you're in the same spot. I should mention that my local dealer can't figure out CP removal, but was surprisingly willing to use parts sourced from LKQ, because they are indemnified from responsibility if there is a failure.

EDIT: I feel as if I should mention that my engine failed about 24K miles/13 months after stage I & II of the oil consumption fixes were completed by my local dealer, and was told that if I replaced the engine through them for $11k it would still only have a 12/12 warranty on it. With the amount I drive, this meant that I would have only been covered warranty wise in the first 6 months after the fixes.

[eclipse1]

If money is tight, maybe you can convince the dealer to let you source the turbo, and let them complete the work? I tried this when my engine was replaced, and my dealer said they would do it if I sourced the engine from LKQ, but the labor rate was more than the engine so I went elsewhere. If you don't qualify for the turbo warranty extension, I would at least ask if you could source a used turbo; they may play ball with you and worst case you're in the same spot. I should mention that my local dealer can't figure out CP removal, but was surprisingly willing to use parts sourced from LKQ, because they are indemnified from responsibility if there is a failure.

EDIT: I feel as if I should mention that my engine failed about 24K miles/13 months after stage I & II of the oil consumption fixes were completed by my local dealer, and was told that if I replaced the engine through them for $11k it would still only have a 12/12 warranty on it. With the amount I drive, this meant that I would have only been covered warranty wise in the first 6 months after the fixes.

Your engine failed after oil consumption repair? That worries me even more.. rather add a quart every few months than go through this? is it common? If I source my turbo, there won't be any warranty.. so I might as well have them do it all! I'm still confused why AoA will cover some turbo and not all!

[bakedziti]

Your engine failed after oil consumption repair? That worries me even more.. rather add a quart every few months than go through this? is it common? If I source my turbo, there won't be any warranty.. so I might as well have them do it all! I'm still confused why AoA will cover some turbo and not all!

Don't really want to side track you too far here, but yes, my engine failed (upper rod bearing cylinder 2) after the oil consumption fixes. I found out later that the dealer was trying to help me, but Audi denied any warranty work due to the mileage...and then the dealer found the crumbs of my GIAC tune, so it was all over. Anyway, part of my point is that the warranty won't get you too far in my eyes. Audi could put a new long block or turbo for that matter in there for you at full price, but would still only warranty it for 12 months/12k miles. Compare that to LKQ, who will do a 6/6 warranty (provided its going in the right car, again VIN specific) for a fraction of the price. $600 vs. $1,450+tax to have 6 months/6k miles less warranty; its certainly a trade off, but if Audi won't foot the bill I know what I would/did choose.

[ttu108]

Don't really want to side track you too far here, but yes, my engine failed (upper rod bearing cylinder 2) after the oil consumption fixes. I found out later that the dealer was trying to help me, but Audi denied any warranty work due to the mileage...and then the dealer found the crumbs of my GIAC tune, so it was all over. Anyway, part of my point is that the warranty won't get you too far in my eyes. Audi could put a new long block or turbo for that matter in there for you at full price, but would still only warranty it for 12 months/12k miles. Compare that to LKQ, who will do a 6/6 warranty (provided its going in the right car, again VIN specific) for a fraction of the price. $600 vs. $1,450+tax to have 6 months/6k miles less warranty; its certainly a trade off, but if Audi won't foot the bill I know what I would/did choose.

how many miles did you have when it failed?

[bakedziti]

how many miles did you have when it failed?

Oil Consumption "Fixes" @89,534 (07/15)
Replaced my turbo @90,xxx because AoA refused during oil consumption (its really easy, as long as you don't miss a crush washer like I did . The DIY is great)
Failure @ 113,898 (08/16)
24,364 in the time between the "fixes" and failure.

Currently at 121,156 so nearly 8k on the B8.5 engine so far, and that $500 turbo I picked up from eBay is still doing well.

[MrTylerRaines]

yea i cant understand why people dont use audi certified specialty shops over dealerships. only worth it for warranty. otherwise they are just printing money.


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[eclipse1]

Don't really want to side track you too far here, but yes, my engine failed (upper rod bearing cylinder 2) after the oil consumption fixes. I found out later that the dealer was trying to help me, but Audi denied any warranty work due to the mileage...and then the dealer found the crumbs of my GIAC tune, so it was all over. Anyway, part of my point is that the warranty won't get you too far in my eyes. Audi could put a new long block or turbo for that matter in there for you at full price, but would still only warranty it for 12 months/12k miles. Compare that to LKQ, who will do a 6/6 warranty (provided its going in the right car, again VIN specific) for a fraction of the price. $600 vs. $1,450+tax to have 6 months/6k miles less warranty; its certainly a trade off, but if Audi won't foot the bill I know what I would/did choose.

so LKQ sells used parts and provide warranty on those? rmeuropean has an OEM for $950.

[bakedziti]

so LKQ sells used parts and provide warranty on those? rmeuropean has an OEM for $950.

LKQ does provide a warranty. https://lkqonline.com/generic/warranties
I haven't used RMEuropean, but in the limited number of instances in which I've heard of others using them, I don't think you'd have much to worry; they're reputable.

[eclipse1]

LKQ does provide a warranty. https://lkqonline.com/generic/warranties
I haven't used RMEuropean, but in the limited number of instances in which I've heard of others using them, I don't think you'd have much to worry; they're reputable.

RMEuropean has a 2 year warranty on parts. The new turbo is $950. seems like a winner to me.

[bakedziti]

RMEuropean has a 2 year warranty on parts. The new turbo is $950. seems like a winner to me.

I was not aware of that, but that is great!

[bluefox280]

I don't have access to VAG. Please advise..

Drive to Broomfield and I'll give a scan via my VAG-COM / VCDS.

Seems you've been having the same problem since October 2016? Why hasn't this been remedied?

- Erik

[eclipse1]

Erik, thanks for the offer. Dealer changed the timing chain and stage 1 oil consumption last October. Turbo was working fine after the fix. Just a week ago, low oil pressure light came on and dealer diagnosed the new issues.

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[eclipse1]

I'm still debating whether I should Supply the turbo. My only concern is, if anything happens down the road with the engine I hope they would cover that and not blame it on the turbo I supplied. If I buy it myself, I'll get a new OEM and not a used one.

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[MrTylerRaines]

I'm still debating whether I should Supply the turbo. My only concern is, if anything happens down the road with the engine I hope they would cover that and not blame it on the turbo I supplied. If I buy it myself, I'll get a new OEM and not a used one.

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New OEM would be the only way a dealer would accept it. I would communicate with the dealer first. Sometimes they work with you. I had my pistons replaced under the consumption lawsuit and i brought in all genuine parts and they accepted it for timing chain and faulty tentioner. Just a thought.


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[bluetori]

65K miles

I thought that the factory turbo was extended to 80k, not sure I would ask them what happened to the turbo because I believe the wastegate actuator is failing, here's a thread on audiworld saying and I'm sure it's somewhere on here to. It covers 10'-12' see if you can get a copy of that letter.

http://www.audiworld.com/forums/a4-b...012-a-2867093/

[bluetori]

I'm still debating whether I should Supply the turbo. My only concern is, if anything happens down the road with the engine I hope they would cover that and not blame it on the turbo I supplied. If I buy it myself, I'll get a new OEM and not a used one.

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Years ago I had a Freelander2 Land Rover the cooling fans went on it and it was a bitch to get in their the engine was transversely mounted, I got the part but dealer said they couldn't warranty it like they normally would because even though it was new OEM I didn't buy from them. I didn't care since I was getting rid of it soon anyway wife needed something bigger.

[bakedziti]

OP, correct me if I am wrong here, but I picked up from the Oil Consumption Sticky that your car has a rebuilt title. I am not certain, but that could be the reason why your turbo warranty extension has been denied. Regardless of the title status however, the extension is VIN specific, so if your VIN isn't in the range, you're not covered. This is exactly what happened to me, although I was definitely affected by the same issue the TSB was for.

[ashtonhess]

Same situation i'm in now. Went to my local audi shop and it's $2300. Not upgraded. Should be done tomorrow. Audi dealer was $2800. (this is with labor included)


Ashton

[eclipse1]

Same situation i'm in now. Went to my local audi shop and it's $2300. Not upgraded. Should be done tomorrow. Audi dealer was $2800. (this is with labor included)


Ashton

When you say upgraded, which part number are you talking about? It's still a K03, correct?

[ashtonhess]

When you say upgraded, which part number are you talking about? It's still a K03, correct?

Not upgraded*


Ashton

[hyperunion]

When you say upgraded, which part number are you talking about? It's still a K03, correct?

Well technically OEM turbo is an ihi jh5

Don't really want to side track you too far here, but yes, my engine failed (upper rod bearing cylinder 2) after the oil consumption fixes. I found out later that the dealer was trying to help me, but Audi denied any warranty work due to the mileage...and then the dealer found the crumbs of my GIAC tune, so it was all over. Anyway, part of my point is that the warranty won't get you too far in my eyes. Audi could put a new long block or turbo for that matter in there for you at full price, but would still only warranty it for 12 months/12k miles. Compare that to LKQ, who will do a 6/6 warranty (provided its going in the right car, again VIN specific) for a fraction of the price. $600 vs. $1,450+tax to have 6 months/6k miles less warranty; its certainly a trade off, but if Audi won't foot the bill I know what I would/did choose.

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[MrTylerRaines]

Spend a little more and get yourself a GT28 or K04. My 2 cents.


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[oldred]

I thought that the factory turbo was extended to 80k, not sure I would ask them what happened to the turbo because I believe the wastegate actuator is failing, here's a thread on audiworld saying and I'm sure it's somewhere on here to. It covers 10'-12' see if you can get a copy of that letter.

http://www.audiworld.com/forums/a4-b...012-a-2867093/

Dealer replaced my turbo free....I received letter years ago saying turbo would be covers to 70,000 miles.

G.E.M.