For those who have went OEM --> Stage 1 --> Stage 2

[JD S4]

Question for those of you who have went OEM to Stage 1 to Stage 2..

I ordered EPL Stage 2.. I now have access to Stage 1 software as my cable/pulley are en route.. It will likely be a few weeks (maybe more) until I have time to install the pulley and load the S2 software.. Question is an opinion for those who bridged and went Stage 1 in the interim --- do you think I should wait and go Stage 2 direct? Or should I flash Stage 1 now and ride on it for the next weeks/month? I've heard feedback from a lot of people (and dyno proven) that the jump to Stage 2 from S1 isn't nearly as drastic and I'm wondering if I'll feel disappointed/bummed by not getting "more" out of the Stage 2 jump.. The old dive right in vs. ease right in discussion.

Anyone have any thoughts? Did you do one and wish you did the other? Stoked either way to be tuned - just want to do it right for maximum satisfaction.

[Bclippard]

I think it is worth it although i went Stage 1 93 to Stage 2 dual pulley 93 and it was huge increase.


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[JD S4]

I think it is worth it although i went Stage 1 93 to Stage 2 dual pulley 93 and it was huge increase.


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I wish.. :-)

[Pared]

Since you already went Stg 2, just go to Stg1 for now and enjoy. Who cares about the jump - you have both anyway.

[cjw]

I thought the jump from OEM to Stage 1 was better than Stage 1 to 2, but who cares? More is better at all times.

[whiped]

Go Stage 1 first. No point in waiting.

Stage 1 feels like a bigger jump as it adds a lot more up top.

Stage 2 feels like a smaller jump but can be felt all across the power band.

Going Stage 1 first will make you thirsty to get even more performance out of it

[jachien]

Having driven both (mine being a stage 1 and stage 2 was a friend's) I can say that even though the stage 2 gains aren't as drastic, there is still a noticeable difference in low end response due to the pulley ratio producing boost sooner. If you're concerned about the way it feels, I would say if you bought the DSG tune as well.. just do stage 1 now, and then stage 2 with dsg tune later so you wont be disappointed either time.

[BillyG]

I definitely recommend enjoying stage 1 until you have the time to install the pulley. I did so, with EPL, and stage 1 was very noticeable, as was the upgrade to stage 2.

[unasupra97]

In the same boat as you just went stage 2 but have to wait for the pulley to come in..think i will enjoy stage 1 for now

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[jlaudio]

all i will say is stock to stage 2 was a very dramatic difference, the first time you really lay into it its going to surprise you.... in a good way

[MrFunk]

I felt the opposite.
Stock to Stage 1 wasn't as drastic. The only real difference was way high in the RPM where boost would not bleed off.
Stage 1 to Stage 2 I felt was a bigger jump because of the increase in low end tq which is much more useful in daily driving.
Mind you - neither felt as drastic as tuning a turbo. Our SC engine is so smooth and power delivery is so linear that it's not the same as a turbo power delivery when tuned.

Regardless - for sure go stage 1 then stage 2. Enjoy both and appreciate each for what they are... the evolution of your car...
I have slowly modded my car for 5 years now and it's kept it fresh and fun the entire time. Had I done everything at once I'd have missed out on the journey.

[ModItNow]

I felt the opposite.
Stock to Stage 1 wasn't as drastic. The only real difference was way high in the RPM where boost would not bleed off.
Stage 1 to Stage 2 I felt was a bigger jump because of the increase in low end tq which is much more useful in daily driving.
Mind you - neither felt as drastic as tuning a turbo. Our SC engine is so smooth and power delivery is so linear that it's not the same as a turbo power delivery when tuned.

Regardless - for sure go stage 1 then stage 2. Enjoy both and appreciate each for what they are... the evolution of your car...
I have slowly modded my car for 5 years now and it's kept it fresh and fun the entire time. Had I done everything at once I'd have missed out on the journey.

I had a similar experience, stage 1 was a nice power bump but majority above 5k. Therefore you don't feel all of what is has most of the time. For me stage 2 is how I like to drive the car, ripping from a low rpm especially since these cars have such amazing traction. You will appreciate both, very different...


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[sixoclub]

Up to what your pleasure is really. Ask your self if you want your car at it's funest or do you enjoy the process of modding?

I went stage 1 then stage 2 but would have been perfectly happy doing it all at once. I get very little pleasure from modding and deep down wish it came that way stock.

[JD S4]

Thanks Fellas. Great feedback!


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[SwankP3RF3ct10n]

Flash Stage 1 dude... that's almost like a no brainer honestly. If you're gonna wait and install pulley when funds or time allows, might as well enjoy Stage 1 while you have it... why not? You'll notice a nice boost in power with Stage one, no doubt. With Stage 2, you'll get a bit more torque and response down low with a little bit more gain up top, but it's not like Stage 1 is a slouch or whatever and not worth it. Honestly, I would have stayed at Stage 1 had my damn crank pulley not taken a shit on itself at 70k. When that happened, I wasn't going to install another OEM unit, so I got a JHM and installed that myself and then called up Chris and asked him to process my payment for Stage 2. I rode on JHM pulley and Stage 1 EPL for about a day or so I think while my account got updated to Stage 2 file.

[HeymyAudi]

I went from Stage 1 to Stage 2 and there was no disappointment.. and once you go stage 2 then go to the Dual Pulley file...

[Hofahome]

Since you are at altitude, stage I may not be significant jump. Still worthwhile to flash it though.

[turbophreak]

Is stage one all up top or is there anything added down low? Even butt dyno feels?

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[whiped]

Is stage one all up top or is there anything added down low? Even butt dyno feels?

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It's across the whole rev band but most noticeable up top.

[ZGskibum]

Since you are at altitude, stage I may not be significant jump. Still worthwhile to flash it though.

Stage 1 is still a beast at altitude. And then when you jump to stg II, it's a whole new car all over again. For max fun, definitely flash asap, then go stg II as time allows.


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[S4ilicious]

I say go flash stage 1, it defenitely is a great increase from stock but as others have mentioned you will mostly feel it up Top since that is its main function (:
Personally i went stage 1 and then did Stage 2 with DSG tune and man the car rips now haha Like others have already mentioned