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    What is a normal 0-60 time on a Dual Pulley s4?

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    I recently test my 179/57mm EPL dual pulley s5 started on the fwy shoulder from a dead stop to 60.
    I measured 0-60 through Torque pro+crista adaptor to be 4.2 sec.
    Was it normal?
    LC was used, and traction on the 1st gear WAS an issue but the result is still too slow to my expectation.
    I couldn't find a similar setup s4's 0-60 time so I have to ask.
    Any replies will be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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    I could run mid to high 3s Stage 2 E85. Haven't tested dual pulley yet.

    LC used - first issue. Upswing method is the fastest.

    Traction issue in 1st gear: kind of hard for us to say if this is slow or not when we don't know how long you didn't have traction.

    Also not familiar with Torque pro/crista and if that's a suitable method compared to vbox.


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    Quote Originally Posted by yjypm View Post
    I recently test my 179/57mm EPL dual pulley s5 started on the fwy shoulder from a dead stop to 60.
    I measured 0-60 through Torque pro+crista adaptor to be 4.2 sec.
    Was it normal?
    LC was used, and traction on the 1st gear WAS an issue but the result is still too slow to my expectation.
    I couldn't find a similar setup s4's 0-60 time so I have to ask.
    Any replies will be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
    I got a 4.3 with my stage 2, still feeling slow

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    I've done 4 seconds flat (according to my P3 gauge) on stage 2 GIAC. And that was with a bit of wheel spin.
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    3.71 with my VBox Sport at an NHRA 1/4 strip. But I drive a Q5, so I'm 500 lbs heavier.
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    The S4 has been reviewed and tested as low as 4.5 stock. I've seen pics of people getting 3.7 to 3.8 on stage 2 so you should be able to get mid 3s in ideal conditions. Testing it on a regular local road probably won't get the best times.
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    JHM/APR dual pulley. I got 3.2 and 3.3 with my Vbox at MIR just this past Saturday and 0-100 was 8.2 and 8.3. They are pretty much what I got a couple of weeks ago on a relatively flat "private road" in slightly colder temperature.

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    I've done 3.4 with my EPL dual pulley in relatively warm/humid weather on a summer night.


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    Since stg 2 usually average 4 sec and best result are around 3.8

    I would HOPE the dual pulley tune to do approx. 3.5 The best i've seen is 3.2 if I'm not mistaken.

    Obviously, theirs a difference between 179mm and 194mm ( about 30whp), and theres a difference between 93 vs E85 (another 30ish whp).

    And then theres different TCU tunes and finally theres tire traction ( when we're talking about 3.2-3.5, a little traction issue can easily loose a few tenth)

    but surely 4.2 is a deception !
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    What is a normal 0-60 time on a Dual Pulley s4?

    Thanks for everyone's reply. Just wondering, what tire sizes are you guys running? I am running with 255/30/r20.
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    245/40/18 around 21lbs (9inch wide)
    20's may well slow your acceleration a touch
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    2 Pulls at stage 2.

    You can see the time from the P3 on the windshield.

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    Can someone explain what the upswing method is?

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    It's like launching but release the brake a bit early.



    Here is primetime doing it, watch the needle and listen for it.

    I wasn't doing it in the above video as I was losing traction even launching normally.
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    I don't think anyone would believe mine or primetime's 0-60 times
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loe View Post
    I don't think anyone would believe mine or primetime's 0-60 times
    LOL. I think most of us believe every damn word you say. Pretty much anything dual pulley is WWLD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loe View Post
    I don't think anyone would believe mine or primetime's 0-60 times
    What is your 0-60?


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    Quote Originally Posted by whiped View Post
    2 Pulls at stage 2.

    You can see the time from the P3 on the windshield.

    Confident on the P3's accuracy? I have one too and got a 3.90 many times on my DSG equipped Stage 1- literally that exact time and on several roads. I had a separate thread on it a while ago. I wanted to make sure launch control wasn't making the gauge do something funky since getting 3.90 a lot of times seemed too consistent so I did one uphill and one downhill and thankfully the times did change accordingly

    My question more is, has anyone compared P3 to the more traditional methods of recording 0-60? I'm hyped if a car that I paid 36k for used can keep up with sub 4 second cars to 60 that cost much more money, but it just seems like such a fast speed for a car under 500hp that is still fairly heavy. Not complaining though


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    ^^ Best way is to race against GTR lol we all know they are under 4second. So it gives you a good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waxxonMTL View Post
    ^^ Best way is to race against GTR lol we all know they are under 4second. So it gives you a good idea.
    My buddy has a 2009. Hmm.

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    GIAC Stage 2 with DSG Tune: 3.65 best with LC used, cool summer night (70's). I have seen as low as 3.5 posted for stage 2 only.

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    I still think 3.5 is pretty darmn low for just a stage 2 and I'm a bit doubtful, but then again, its hard for our brain to catch the difference between 3.5 of 4sec lol. we're talking half of a second there..
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    A half a second 500 ms is to slow for voice over IP lol
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    3.21 for me with a 179mm 93/E85 mix. 60ft at the track was a 1.62.

    I would put Loe at about 2.7x - 2.9x.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnewJack View Post
    3.21 for me with a 179mm 93/E85 mix. 60ft at the track was a 1.62.

    I would put Loe at about 2.7x - 2.9x.
    Sub 3's...holy crap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnewJack View Post
    3.21 for me with a 179mm 93/E85 mix. 60ft at the track was a 1.62.

    I would put Loe at about 2.7x - 2.9x.
    Great guess! 2.75 is my best to date. 1.58x 60ft times puts you in some serious company in terms of 0-45mph acceleration, i can be side to side with a tuned 911 Turbo S (991 body) through the first 60ft, but its downhill from there lol. Our cars can be serious off the line, even considering it being AWD on street tires, when launched correctly, I usually get people with higher powered rwd cars with DR/Slicks come up to me a bit surprised and asking what tires I run.

    My car upshifts the 1-2 at about 1.6 seconds, and the 2-3 upshift at about 2.9 seconds.
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    Audi got the gearing right for getting up to highway speed for sure. Sub 4s with a tune in a 4,000 lb car that gets almost 30 mpg...pretty awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13jfp View Post
    Audi got the gearing right for getting up to highway speed for sure. Sub 4s with a tune in a 4,000 lb car that gets almost 30 mpg...pretty awesome.

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    Wow. I'm only 1+ but still get 28 hwy...23 overall

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loe View Post
    Great guess! 2.75 is my best to date. 1.58x 60ft times puts you in some serious company in terms of 0-45mph acceleration, i can be side to side with a tuned 911 Turbo S (991 body) through the first 60ft, but its downhill from there lol. Our cars can be serious off the line, even considering it being AWD on street tires, when launched correctly, I usually get people with higher powered rwd cars with DR/Slicks come up to me a bit surprised and asking what tires I run.

    My car upshifts the 1-2 at about 1.6 seconds, and the 2-3 upshift at about 2.9 seconds.
    2.75... that's crazy
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    Quote Originally Posted by yjypm View Post
    2.75... that's crazy
    Agree...ridiculous

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    Quote Originally Posted by A5MD View Post
    Agree...ridiculous
    I could imagine he parked next to a Ferrari F12 at red light and destroyed that beast.
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    Whoa Loe. Nice!

    And audi says the new s4 doesn't have a dsg because of the power. Liars!
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    So I wonder what the real reason is? Anybody know? Saving DSG for the RS models?

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    2011 S4 here.

    EPL Stage 2, 91 octane, EPL DSG tune, light weight crank pulley (stock size), 20lbs 19" wheels, stock size tires....

    I did multiple times 3.8-3.85sec, without using LC.
    Just a bit better with LC. ... 3.75-3.8

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13jfp View Post
    So I wonder what the real reason is? Anybody know? Saving DSG for the RS models?

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    I believe it's more for cost and reliability concerns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yjypm View Post
    I believe it's more for cost and reliability concerns.
    Yes. The ZF transmission is more stout and will hold more torque. I believe that is why it is not offered in the RS7 and the power potential of the S6 is somewhat limited by tuners (once you step up to the RS turbos) due to torque limitations of the DSG.

    I think the power potential of the B9 will far exceed the B8 with its twin turbo layout so the ZF should prove to be a wise choice, though I personally prefer the DSG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yjypm View Post
    I recently test my 179/57mm EPL dual pulley s5 started on the fwy shoulder from a dead stop to 60.
    I measured 0-60 through Torque pro+crista adaptor to be 4.2 sec.
    Was it normal?
    LC was used, and traction on the 1st gear WAS an issue but the result is still too slow to my expectation.
    I couldn't find a similar setup s4's 0-60 time so I have to ask.
    Any replies will be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
    This doesn't seem right. I just did 3.96 on my way to work with no L.C. and very little heart into it. I'm straight up stage 2 with stock dsg tune.

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    I feel like there should be a value for vehicle speed or something like that in VCDS for logging...
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