Supercharger, jhm, apr, tts etc??

[ibb88]

Okay getting real close to pulling the trigger
On getting the supercharger. But been
getting hit up to try all kinds. Which
One do you guys think is the best one for Audi
S5 v8??? JHM, APR, TTS, etc. What are your thoughts and
I'm just looking for the most horsepower

[Jake@JHM]

JHM ..

https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catal...ge-p-3432.html

[wxsgt]

Jhm has the base stage 1 unit which performs similarly to aprs. Soon hopefully they will be releasing an add on stage 1+ which will intercool it. After that if you wanna go further do internals and fueling and a smaller pulley(unless that's part of the 1+) and you can be near 750 chp. That being said how vortech makes their supers you could get a higher flow one using jhms hardware and get even more hp

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[Jake@JHM]

Jhm has the base stage 1 unit which performs similarly to aprs. Soon hopefully they will be releasing an add on stage 1+ which will intercool it. After that if you wanna go further do internals and fueling and a smaller pulley(unless that's part of the 1+) and you can be near 750 chp. That being said how vortech makes their supers you could get a higher flow one using jhms hardware and get even more hp

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Intercooling is in testing right now! Our shop car is running around with our intercooler kit.

[Turbavanttro]

AMD!

http://www.fastaudi.com/store/!/AMD-...ory%3D14354179

[wxsgt]

Intercooling is in testing right now! Our shop car is running around with our intercooler kit.

And still no pics lol

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[Jake@JHM]

We showed it off at our Audi Night 6 event =]

I will see what I can do about a teaser photo.. The S5 intercooled kit is going to be amazingly priced too

[ibb88]

JHM - supercharger $7495, plus clutch $2500+, plus installation $10000 to get 453 hp
APR - supercharger $13k alone -537hp
TTS - supercharger $1195 but its overseas, don't know the hp but it looks quick and powerful
I haven't viewed the other superchargers. Can someone else provide info on other charges?,

[NaiveTurtle]

AMD!

http://www.fastaudi.com/store/!/AMD-...ory%3D14354179

This will be the kit I go with in the near future. After talking to Jason, they are working on Flex Fuel and a full E-85 kit.

[Jake@JHM]

JHM - supercharger $7495, plus clutch $2500+, plus installation $10000 to get 453 hp
APR - supercharger $13k alone -537hp
TTS - supercharger $1195 but its overseas, don't know the hp but it looks quick and powerful
I haven't viewed the other superchargers. Can someone else provide info on other charges?,

The Holiday Sale is now live... JHM Supercharger $7195 and Clutch $2295 - $9490!!

Also, what are these HP claims.. Crank or Wheel? And where did you get these estimates from?

[Jake@JHM]

And still no pics lol

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Teaser

[jwr9152]

JHM - supercharger $7495, plus clutch $2500+, plus installation $10000 to get 453 hp
APR - supercharger $13k alone -537hp
TTS - supercharger $1195 but its overseas, don't know the hp but it looks quick and powerful
I haven't viewed the other superchargers. Can someone else provide info on other charges?,

APR doesn't sell the stage 3 kit anymore, which I have, and I can promise you, you will need a new clutch with that kit The APR stage 3+ kit is 589 HP and requires an extra $2000 for high pressure fuel pumps, and another $400-$500 for a new intake. OEM intake isn't big enough and can collapse on itself. Heard issues with the TTS kit. If I was looking right now I would go with JHM. If APR was still making the the stage 3 kit I would stay with it. It works really good, and I have zero complaints. I'm sure the JHM kit is great too, would love to drive one and see how it compares to mine. So if anyone in the southeast wants to do a comparison let me know.

[Blackstallion]

3 threads on same topic isn't really necessary - vote goes to JHM...

[doug97gxe]

I would recommend the JHM supercharger


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I love jhm but their supercharger kit could be better. Their best time with this car was like 11.8 i believe. Apr ran 11.2 with only a supercharger kit exhaust nd intake

i wouldn't look at the numbers.. lots of reasons go into 1/4 mile times... JHM has a centrifugal kit vs roots blower on the APR kit.. its a better design to make power and for cooling

that's because jhm went lower power for longevity of the internals. as such makes less power. do fueling and an intercooler and it would be up there with the apr. they are working on it now

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True but that .6 of a second time difference is a buss length or 2 on the strip. Plus my brother has an E63S AMG which im trying to shit on with my little audi lol. Need to be faster.

that JHM Kit is a 10 second kit easy with the right supporting mods

Could be but until its proven APR is winning right now.

well i think JHM is still in its pilot stage.. not retail stage.. APR has been in retail stage for a couple of years now.. check out Centrifugal Superchargers vs Roots Superchargers when you have some time.. the Roots is on the current S4/S5 .. it has a ceiling and cooling issues at a certain point .. JHM made the right choice going Centrifugal .. when you see all the 1000 hp supercharged cars they are usually vortech or procharged running a centrifugal supercharger .. i know you can't see it now.. but trust me.. JHM is the better design .. its the best thing next to going turbo

Very true. Excited to see where jhm takes it.

the JHM super charger kit is a great kit. Especially since it has room to grow with different levels of hardware.

We can get those kits here and we install them just so everybody knows.

Thanks,

Alex

laa lalala lalaaa

[spax_ar]

JHM! I've got just under 1000 miles on mine at this point. Smooth and powerful. Install wasn't bad at all. Lots of fun but still an easy/reliable driver.

[Jake@JHM]

JHM! I've got just under 1000 miles on mine at this point. Smooth and powerful. Install wasn't bad at all. Lots of fun but still an easy/reliable driver.

Glad you love it!

[craigwall09]

This will be the kit I go with in the near future. After talking to Jason, they are working on Flex Fuel and a full E-85 kit.

I haven't been able to get in touch with anybody at this shop/website. via phone or email. would you choose this over the TTS supercharger?

[craigwall09]

APR doesn't sell the stage 3 kit anymore, which I have, and I can promise you, you will need a new clutch with that kit The APR stage 3+ kit is 589 HP and requires an extra $2000 for high pressure fuel pumps, and another $400-$500 for a new intake. OEM intake isn't big enough and can collapse on itself. Heard issues with the TTS kit. If I was looking right now I would go with JHM. If APR was still making the the stage 3 kit I would stay with it. It works really good, and I have zero complaints. I'm sure the JHM kit is great too, would love to drive one and see how it compares to mine. So if anyone in the southeast wants to do a comparison let me know.

what issues have you heard with the TTS kit? im either soon going to pull the trigger on the TTS or AMD superchargers and once i do and its installed, if you still have your vehicle i would love to do a comparison when mine is up and running.

[Toddiesel]

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I'm looking to SC myself. I'm given to understand the APR kit doesn't exist anymore so it seems like it's out of the running. The JHM kit seems to be the cheapest of the bunch, but I'll be honest, I dislike centrifugal superchargers. They're essentially turbochargers (and therefore prone to lag) that are belt driven (and are therefore suck hp from the engine) so they're the worst of both worlds. I REALLY like low end power/torque and would prefer a roots or twin screw SC. Seems like the only option in this genre is the AMD and it's definitely the most expensive of the bunch. The TTS is technically a centrifugal, but presents itself as a roots/twin screw so I guess that's the middle ground (in price as well). Is there any new development on any of these? If JHM made a roots/twin screw I wouldn't even be posting, I'd just be buying it.

[Jake@JHM]

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I'm looking to SC myself. I'm given to understand the APR kit doesn't exist anymore so it seems like it's out of the running. The JHM kit seems to be the cheapest of the bunch, but I'll be honest, I dislike centrifugal superchargers. They're essentially turbochargers (and therefore prone to lag) that are belt driven (and are therefore suck hp from the engine) so they're the worst of both worlds. I REALLY like low end power/torque and would prefer a roots or twin screw SC. Seems like the only option in this genre is the AMD and it's definitely the most expensive of the bunch. The TTS is technically a centrifugal, but presents itself as a roots/twin screw so I guess that's the middle ground (in price as well). Is there any new development on any of these? If JHM made a roots/twin screw I wouldn't even be posting, I'd just be buying it.

That is incorrect. There is no lag, with a centrifugal. It builds boost with RPM. They also run much more efficiently generating less heat. ALL superchargers are belt driven, therefore "suck" hp from the engine. However they replenish much more power than they take (as do all supercharges).

The TTS is centrifugal that is mounted in the valley. But in order to be mounted in the valley you have to have a much smaller blower.

The big differences are going to be when the power comes in, and how much heat they generate doing so.

[Toddiesel]

That is incorrect. There is no lag, with a centrifugal. It builds boost with RPM. They also run much more efficiently generating less heat. ALL superchargers are belt driven, therefore "suck" hp from the engine. However they replenish much more power than they take (as do all supercharges).

The TTS is centrifugal that is mounted in the valley. But in order to be mounted in the valley you have to have a much smaller blower.

The big differences are going to be when the power comes in, and how much heat they generate doing so.

Call me crazy, but building boost with RPMs is the exact definition of lag, no? You have little boost/power down low and more boost/power at high RPMs. I want that instant power a roots/twin-screw provides. Would be easier if the motor was pushrod, but that would be some crazy shit, to see a german push rod motor.

[Toddiesel]

And let me just say I understand the science behind it and the reason for turbo lag and that CSCs don't have the problem with low exhaust pressure to spin the turbine at low engine speed. I'm purely talking about the EFFECT of lag, which is you step on the gas, you no go for a second. Boost has to build. forced induction with a turbine is going to have that issue. Roots/TS SCs don't have that issue. It's instant power.

[Jake@JHM]

Call me crazy, but building boost with RPMs is the exact definition of lag, no? You have little boost/power down low and more boost/power at high RPMs. I want that instant power a roots/twin-screw provides. Would be easier if the motor was pushrod, but that would be some crazy shit, to see a german push rod motor.

In the context you wrote, you are referring to turbo lag. Which behaves much differently. At any given RPM, you will have the boost that the blower is making at that specific RPM instantly. Whereas a turbo will have to spool back up to build that pressure back. So with the CFuge, there is zero lag.

What you are referring to is when the power comes in. Roots will have more power down low than up top. CFuge will have more power up top than down low. Like any blower, your pulley ratio is a big part of this.


As far as efficiency goes, you can make the same power on a Cfuge with less boost than it would take with a roots. The Cfuge generates much less heat, so you will have better IATs. That is why we don't even need to intercooler the system on our Stage 1.


Don't get me wrong, the roots style blowers have an allure to them. I love the way they sound (which is why I drive a 3.0T). They both get the job done in their own ways.

A german push rod motor would be cool. However they would also need much bigger displacement to make the power they can now.

[Toddiesel]

Fair enough. And I don't want to argue over semantics. I'm just saying I prefer the down low power of a roots SC. And yes, I do love the sound as well. My C7 Z06, with the nitrous express SC lid and 18% pulley, whines like a spoiled toddler. I would just like to have similar performance (and by performance, I mean the way it behaves. I'll never get the power performance that I do from my Z06) in my S5 that I do in my Z06. I don't think I'm going to get that with a centrifugal. I also much prefer the way a SC looks mounted in place of the intake manifold. You guys should make one and I'd buy it in a second!