DBFL's 2016 S4 6MT Build Thread

[DBFL]

I really should have started a build thread a while ago. I had been listing my mods in my signature, but there's a 500 character limit and my mod list has exceeded that.

The car is a 2016 S4 6MT In Mythos Black with Sports Diff, B&O, Carbon Atlas Trim, and Tech Package.

Here's my mod list...

Go-fast mods:
GIAC Dual Pulley Tune
GIAC LPFP Upgrade
AWE Supercharger Pulley
iAbed Industries 74mm Throttle Body Upgrade
AMS Alpha Cooling System
JHM Stage 5R Clutch
JHM Lightweight Flywheel
USP Stainless Braided Clutch Line
AWE Touring Exhaust
Crown Motorsports Intake
186mm Crank Pulley
Crown Motorsports Ceramic Coated Test Pipes
Crown Motorsports Ported and Polished Supercharger

Suspension:
JRZ RS Pro 3 Custom Spec Coilovers
Eurocode Front & Rear Sway Bars
Eurocode End Links
Eurocode AluKruez
ECS Transmission & Diff. Mount Inserts
034 Asjustable Upper Control Arms
CR-15 Brace

Cosmetic/Miscellaneous Mods:
Recaro Sportster CS Seats
Vorsteiner V-FF 101 19x8.5 et45 w/ custom Brushed Copper paint
H&R 10mm Spacers
034 Transmission Mount
034 Motorsports Density Line Motor Mounts
Eurocode Short Shifter
JHM Solid Shift Linkage
RS4 Piano Black MMI/Cluster Trim
RS4 Style Front Bumper and Grille
E-Code Headlights
Window Trim and Rear Valance Painted Mythos Black
P3 Vent Gauge
BlackVue DR650S-2CH Dash Cam
Beltronics STi-R+ Radar Detector
Laser Interceptor Laser Jammer
XPel Full Front Clear Bra
Gtechniq Crystal Serum Ceramic Coating
ECS Carbon Fiber Engine/Supercharger Covers

Track Stuff:
Neuspeed RSe10 Wheels - 19x9 et40 (primary set) with Hoosier R7 265/35/19 Tires
Neuspeed RSe102 Wheels - 19x9 et40 (backup set) with Hoosier R7 265/35/19 Tires
VMR V810 Wheels - 19x8.5 et35 with Bridgestone RE-71R 255/35/19 Tires
Naca Ducts
Macan Air Scoops
AP Racing Radi-CAL 370mm J-hook Rotors
AP Racing Radi-CAL 6-piston Calipers
AP Racing Stainless Braided Brake Lines
Macan Dust Shields

Almost all of the work was done by Crown Motorsports in St. Petersburg, FL. The quality of work they do is top notch and their customer service is unbeatable. If anyone in the Tampa Bay Area is looking for somewhere to get work done, definitely go see Evan and his crew.

Most of the pictures I have are crappy iPhone shots. Here are some of the better ones in chronological order, except for the first two. Those will always be the latest pictures - one will be the street setup and the other will be the track setup.




The night I picked it up. Parked next to the '14 S4 I traded in


Still stock other than APR stage 1


Coilovers installed. Sorry for the shitty quality pictures.


AluKreuz, Sway Bars, and Intake installed


AWE Touring exhaust w/ stock downpipes


Paint Correction, XPel, and Ceramic Coating complete



APR Pulley and Stage 2


AMS Alpha cooler installed

(I don't have these pictures on my phone. And for some reason I'm having an issue downloading them from my Photobucket account. Maybe I'll have to use my desktop instead of my phone. I'll give that a shot later )

JHM Stage 4 clutch and lightweight flywheel


Removed JHM Stage 4 clutch and replaced with Stage 5R clutch. Had to replace the flywheel friction liner as well.


Loaded on a trailer for my first ever HPDE. Went to Sebring International Raceway. Unfortunately U-Haul didn't properly maintain their trailer. A piece of metal was sticking up and pulled/ripped off my front bumper when I backed the car off.



RS4 Style bumper and grille (since the stock one was damaged), Killer Chiller, and custom brake ducting. I wanted to put scoops where the fog lights were, but there wasn't enough room after the Alpha cooler reservoir/pump and Killer Chiller. So we went with NACA ducts in the belly pan.





Switched from APR to GIAC Stage 2 with Stock, 93, and Race files. So I bought some MS109.


VMR track wheels


Vorsteiner V-FF 101 wheels (custom Brushed Copper painted finish). Also had the Audi rings, Supercharged Badges, and S4 Badge painted to match.

[AudiSTL]

Impressive list of mods for 2016 went in hardcore as soon as you got the car and the shine god all mine cars have been black until i got s4 i miss the black some time

[Stealthsi009]

Forgive my ignorance but whats the AMS alpha cooler for?


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[DBFL]

Impressive list of mods for 2016 went in hardcore as soon as you got the car and the shine god all mine cars have been black until i got s4 i miss the black some time

Thanks. I didn't plan on doing this much, but once the mod bug hits there's no stopping. Thankfully there aren't really many more things I can do to the car.

[DBFL]

Forgive my ignorance but whats the AMS alpha cooler for?


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Upgraded cooling. It helps keep the supercharger cooler which in turn reduces IATs.

[Jv218]

did you go with a dampened crank pulley?

[waxxonMTL]

you went all-in bud !! very nice.. now you need that DP tune and you could add the new 034 rear subframe insert.. Beside that, you pretty much bought the whole B8.5 S4 catalogue of aftermarket part LOL!!

[DBFL]

did you go with a dampened crank pulley?

No. I bought a 186mm KustomImports pulley. There was an issue with some of the holes not lining up properly. So I'm waiting for them to send me a new one. I should have it this week.

you went all-in bud !! very nice.. now you need that DP tune and you could add the new 034 rear subframe insert.. Beside that, you pretty much bought the whole B8.5 S4 catalogue of aftermarket part LOL!!

Dual pulley is happening this week. I didn't know 034 had rear subframe inserts. I guess I'll be buying them.

Edit: Subframe inserts ordered.

[stereojorge]

I love this car so very much! Glad I can indulge in it locally and call Daniel a great friend :)


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[Acejam]

I'm curious to hear about your reasons for switching from APR to GIAC. How would you compare the drivability and power of each?

[Lensch09]

Mod-wise, this is literally a twin to my car.

Still waiting to install my AMS Alpha (this week) and 382mm brakes (probably in a few weeks once they get back from powdercoat).

How do you like the killerchiller? I kicked around picking one up but haven't convinced myself that it's necessary. I never do HPDE, just go 1/4 running.

-DL

[AudBoost]

And he didn't even mention all the electrical work he has done to his car. Daniel is the resident electrical guru for our group here in Tampa.

Looking good Daniel!

[DBFL]

I'm curious to hear about your reasons for switching from APR to GIAC. How would you compare the drivability and power of each?

It was for a few reasons. I was having an issue with the tune where I was getting a surge of power in first gear at 4000rpm, but only under partial throttle. It happened on both stage 1 & 2, but didn't happen on a stock file. It was beyond frustrating trying to get APR to fix the problem. It appears to be isolated to 2016 6mt cars. Also, GIAC makes more power with their tunes and I'll be able to have true dual pulley software when the pulley goes on next week.

[DBFL]

Mod-wise, this is literally a twin to my car.

Still waiting to install my AMS Alpha (this week) and 382mm brakes (probably in a few weeks once they get back from powdercoat).

How do you like the killerchiller? I kicked around picking one up but haven't convinced myself that it's necessary. I never do HPDE, just go 1/4 running.

-DL

Actually, killer chiller is more of a 1/4 mile mod. Mine isn't 100% working yet. If you buy it, skip the optional track bypass valve. Mine sticks and blocks the freon completely. I've heard it's a common issue. I'm having it removed when I take the car in on Monday. Other than that it's a great system. It helps big time with heat soak. So you don't have to let the car cool for an hour between runs at the track. Loe was seeing IATs in the 20-30 degree celcius just range this past weekend. Plus this AWE coolant reservoir was cold to the touch. It's definitely worth the cost if you go to the track regularly.

[Thurston]

Do you have a review on your clutch and lwfw set up yet? Good looking car and tastefully modded.

[Loe]

And he didn't even mention all the electrical work he has done to his car. Daniel is the resident electrical guru for our group here in Tampa.

Looking good Daniel!

yeah, there are so many new buttons and gizmo's on this car i'm surprise its not a transformer!

Also +1 on this build and Evan and Crown Motorsports, true track car that has been legitimately abused for fun on the track, awesome stuff!

[Stealthsi009]

yeah, there are so many new buttons and gizmo's on this car i'm surprise its not a transformer!

Also +1 on this build and Evan and Crown Motorsports, true track car that has been legitimately abused for fun on the track, awesome stuff!

Lets see some cockpit pictures!


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[DBFL]

Lets see some cockpit pictures!


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I can take some later, but it won't show much. The interior looks 100% stock. The only thing noticeable is the dash cam. All the buttons I have used are factory Audi buttons that I wired into various electronics.

[DBFL]

Do you have a review on your clutch and lwfw set up yet? Good looking car and tastefully modded.

I love the clutch and flywheel. The flywheel, like basically any lightweight flywheel, makes the throttle more responsive. I can definitely hear a decent amount of chatter from the outside of the car. And a bit more vibration inside as well.

The clutch grabs and I have not had any slip at all. And I have definitely abused it way more than I did the stock clutch. Pedal travel feels stock. The pedal is a bit firmer, but nothing crazy. The engagement point is close to factory. The issue I'm having is launching the car. When the clutch grabs, it really grabs. So I've been experiencing wheel spin at the drag strip. It's just a matter of adjusting how I slip the clutch when launching. I think a few more attempts and I'll have it. When I did a HPDE last month, it performed perfectly. And during that type of driving it felt perfect. In traffic it may be a different experience though. Since the S4 isn't my daily I have yet to drive it in any heavy or even moderate traffic.

If I had to do it all over again I'd make the same choice. No regrets at all with this setup.

[DBFL]

And he didn't even mention all the electrical work he has done to his car. Daniel is the resident electrical guru for our group here in Tampa.

Looking good Daniel!

I love this car so very much! Glad I can indulge in it locally and call Daniel a great friend :)

Thanks guys.

[DBFL]

yeah, there are so many new buttons and gizmo's on this car i'm surprise its not a transformer!

Also +1 on this build and Evan and Crown Motorsports, true track car that has been legitimately abused for fun on the track, awesome stuff!

Thanks Loe. The new crank pulley is going on Monday assuming everything goes to plan. I can't wait until the next time I can make it to the track.

[SouthernBoy]

Damn. Must be a bear removing all of that when warranty work is needed.

[heh, heh]

[eightamrock]

It was for a few reasons. I was having an issue with the tune where I was getting a surge of power in first gear at 4000rpm, but only under partial throttle. It happened on both stage 1 & 2, but didn't happen on a stock file. It was beyond frustrating trying to get APR to fix the problem. It appears to be isolated to 2016 6mt cars. Also, GIAC makes more power with their tunes and I'll be able to have true dual pulley software when the pulley goes on next week.

This happens to me all the time. Didn't realize it was an issue, thought it was a characteristic of the tune. I only ever really notice it in comfort mode.


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[Lensch09]

Ever thought about a fuel line relocation kit to run the feed under the intake pipe? For $30 it's a great mod!


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[DBFL]

Ever thought about a fuel line relocation kit to run the feed under the intake pipe? For $30 it's a great mod!


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I was planning to get it next time I ordered something from ECS.

[DBFL]

BBK is on. 186mm crank pulley as well. There are a few small things to finish up and then it'll be flashed with dual pulley software tomorrow.

[Loe]

Great to see that Evan@Crown Motorsports was able to get a 6MT B8.5 flashed for the DP Thing's are looking up

...he's crew will get the "fun" of installing my HFC this Thursday. Hope you got your KC set-up figured out as well, so far mine's been holding up (as it should since it's a passive system).

[Rez90]

Any plans to put it on a Dyno?

[RyanJon]

Nice car dude, your brake setup is exactly the same as mine. What pads have you got in the front? There's not many options with the AP calipers so I've got ds2500 in and I'm sick of the dust so looking for a lower dust alternative!

[A.C.]

BBK is on. 186mm crank pulley as well. There are a few small things to finish up and then it'll be flashed with dual pulley software tomorrow.

Nice bling!

[stereojorge]

Great to see that Evan@Crown Motorsports was able to get a 6MT B8.5 flashed for the DP Thing's are looking up

...he's crew will get the "fun" of installing my HFC this Thursday. Hope you got your KC set-up figured out as well, so far mine's been holding up (as it should since it's a passive system).

High Flow Cats??


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[Loe]

High Flow Cats??


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yeah, my OEM cats are speculated to be clogged (not due to a design failure or tune-related, more due to coolant contamination and the resultant issues months down the line). HFC's are the cheapest alternative.

[DBFL]

Nice car dude, your brake setup is exactly the same as mine. What pads have you got in the front? There's not many options with the AP calipers so I've got ds2500 in and I'm sick of the dust so looking for a lower dust alternative!

I bought two sets of pads... one for the street (they are Hawk brand. I don't know what model since I'm still waiting for them to be delivered) and a track set (Ferodo). I'm using the Ferodo pads in the front for now until the other set is delivered. I can get you part numbers later today.

Any plans to put it on a Dyno?

No plans other than me thinking that I should look into it when I have the time. I'd like to do it, but it isn't that high on my priority list.

Great to see that Evan@Crown Motorsports was able to get a 6MT B8.5 flashed for the DP Thing's are looking up

...he's crew will get the "fun" of installing my HFC this Thursday. Hope you got your KC set-up figured out as well, so far mine's been holding up (as it should since it's a passive system).

Killer chiller should be good to go. The track bypass valve was definitely sticking, so we just eliminated it. I now have it set up the same way as you.

[Loe]

I'm game on the dyno and a road trip to Orlando for it (if it's on a weekend that is...)

Were you able to get the flash squared away? Curious to see if the file for the 6MT car is similar to mine (100% ready IMHO) or if they used the more aggressive file that I initially received and started over for 6MT guys.

[DBFL]

I'm game on the dyno and a road trip to Orlando for it (if it's on a weekend that is...)

Were you able to get the flash squared away? Curious to see if the file for the 6MT car is similar to mine (100% ready IMHO) or if they used the more aggressive file that I initially received and started over for 6MT guys.

I'm going to start looking into the dyno rental in a couple days (I have my hands full with some family stuff right now).

I'm still on the stage 2 tune for now. Hopefully that will change in the near future. I think I'm going to the track either way tomorrow.

[doug97gxe]

its amazing to me how much work you and Lensch09 have done on your 2016's .. you guys don't fk around .. got in there and went for it.. i love when people make their cars their own

[Loe]

I'm going to start looking into the dyno rental in a couple days (I have my hands full with some family stuff right now).

I'm still on the stage 2 tune for now. Hopefully that will change in the near future. I think I'm going to the track either way tomorrow.

awesome! I'm going to try to make it out there as well as it will be my final run for 2016 as I can't make it to Saturday's event there or Sunday's TNT out in Orlando. Otherwise the track opens up again in the middle of January and I'll more than likely go to the Saturday morning TNT on the 14th and for sure our ASOT track day rental

[waxxonMTL]

did you installed the 034 solid subframe bushing yet ? how does it feel ?

[DBFL]

did you installed the 034 solid subframe bushing yet ? how does it feel ?

Yes, they are installed. I haven't driven the car much since they were installed, but driving around town feels the same as stock. No noticeable increase in NVH. I should be able to do some fun driving this weekend. I will report back after I've had a chance to attack some corners and really test it out.

[waxxonMTL]

Yes, they are installed. I haven't driven the car much since they were installed, but driving around town feels the same as stock. No noticeable increase in NVH. I should be able to do some fun driving this weekend. I will report back after I've had a chance to attack some corners and really test it out.

thanks !