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    Thumbs down B5 1.8t Timing Belt Failure... FML

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    So yesterday evening I'm cruising down the freeway and the engine just stalls. Wtf?! I pull over and look around in the engine and then I see it. The moment I pulled the timing belt cover I see a good number of teeth are missing from the belt. AAA got the car home and the tear down will began. I sadly couldn't find my head bolt tool so the rest will have to wait until I can go find another head bolt tool. I do have my 2003 A4 parts car from which I can go harvest an AMB head. Then install the new head, gaskets, and a new timing belt followed closely by crossing some finger for the compression test.

    Last night I did pull the plugs and send a borescope in to see the damage. It looks similar, maybe not as bad as pictured in the VW Vortex thread.
    http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...ed-piston-tops

    Questions:

    1 - Does anyone know of any reason why the AMB wont work in place of an AWM head?

    2 - If/when the valves hit the piston, if the valves scratched or very slightly marred the piston head from the impact would I have to replace the piston head?

    3 - Any advise or is there anything I am not thinking of?
    Last edited by ActiveMonkey; 11-20-2016 at 09:08 AM.
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    The AMB head will work but they are known to have a high rate of failure in the form of cracks and pin holes. But since you have a free head it won't hurt to use it.
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    Damn dude, that sucks, sorry to hear that!
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    Veteran Member Four Rings ActiveMonkey's Avatar
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    Update: Got it all back together on Tuesday and its running better than ever.

    Pictures Failed Belt



    Damage



    After initial clean/buff. After this photo was taken I did clean the block surface and perform additional cleaning/buffing...



    Head Gasket in Place and Pistons adjusted to TDC



    AWM head on LEFT - AMB head on RIGHT (already adjusted to TDC)
    Current: 2016 Audi A6 3.0t Stage 2+
    Old: 2000 Audi S4 Stage 3 - SOLD | 2000 Audi S4 Stage 3 - Deceased | 2002 Audi S4 Avant - SOLD | 2000 Audi S4 - SOLD | 2003 Audi A4 - SOLD | 2001 Audi A4 Quattro - Deceased | 1998.5 Audi A4 Quattro 5MT - SOLD

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    Nice dude. At least you got her back up and going quick...
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    -'05 B6 A4 1.8T Quattro USP - Arctic White/Black, 6MT, unk chip, S4 brakes/SS lines, S4 grille, tint, PODI gauge, forge dv, Bose w/ Aux & Sub - sold
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    What head gasket is that? I dont remember mine being black.
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    it is the Fel-Pro Head Gasket, part number 26182PT. It's what they had at Monument Car Parts (Seriously the best car parts store in the Bay Area).
    Current: 2016 Audi A6 3.0t Stage 2+
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    WOW, that sucks but at least you got it going again quickly and without too much cost.
    How many miles were on that belt? When I had my B5 I used to change the belt, idler pulley and tensioner every 75K. Always wondered if that was overkill but never wanted to find out the hard way.
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    Assuming it had never been changed, it broke at ~119k
    Current: 2016 Audi A6 3.0t Stage 2+
    Old: 2000 Audi S4 Stage 3 - SOLD | 2000 Audi S4 Stage 3 - Deceased | 2002 Audi S4 Avant - SOLD | 2000 Audi S4 - SOLD | 2003 Audi A4 - SOLD | 2001 Audi A4 Quattro - Deceased | 1998.5 Audi A4 Quattro 5MT - SOLD

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