Chipwerke Question

[4Rings3Liters]

I have read countless positive reviews of the chipwerke pro on our cars during my research but havent seen many negative. Does anyone on here have cons? I just purchased one and am very excited but a bit leery still since its a piggyback. Also the guy I bought it off of said I need to clear codes and do a throttle body alignment? Can anyone explain in detail? Thank you!!!!!!!

[whiped]

No need to clear codes but you will want to let the ECU adapt.

You can do this with VCDS (Steps are listed somewhere, this involves clearing codes)
You can disconnect the battery overnight
You can just let it adapt over time

Biggest con with the CW is with partial throttle response oddities and shifting. It will occasionally do some wonky shit - surging then pausing

First tank of gas or so will likely be a bit jerky. After that it should smooth out.

[ModItNow]

I'm assuming stage 1 (stock pulley) Chipwerke has been great for me, I started with it about a year ago and since added a smaller pulley. Works best when clearing the ecu after installing it the first time. There can be some shift lag if you have dsg but play with the settings to see what works best for your octane, mods etc.
I've used the settings like this:
3-1 (91 octane)
4-1 (setting had too much shift lag for me)
5-1 (93 octane)
6-1, 7-1 (for higher octane but didn't make a difference for me)

Never heard about the throttle body alignment but I don't play with vcds much.


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[Jflow23]

^^^This

I ran 5-1 for daily driving on 93, switched to 7-1 after going dual pulley.

[cjw]

I only really noticed a bit of bogging after shifts, mostly going 2-3.

Going 2-3 on the stock and tuned DSG seems like the most deliberate/slowest of the shifts anyways, but the chipwerk would sometimes feel like it paused for a second. This is usually when not at WOT or not redline shifting.

[4Rings3Liters]

So install the chipwerke and then before driving the car unplug the battery for a while? Can I also just drive the car for a while instead?

[KissMySSSSS]

No need to clear codes but you will want to let the ECU adapt.


Biggest con with the CW is with partial throttle response oddities and shifting. It will occasionally do some wonky shit - surging then pausing

[KissMySSSSS]

So install the chipwerke and then before driving the car unplug the battery for a while? Can I also just drive the car for a while instead?

I think they are saying if you take it off, that the car will need some adjustment time. (Correct me if I am wrong)...

Once you plug the CW into your car it will also go through a bit of an adjustment period where curves are adjusted. Think of it as you're giving your car some implants and they need a few days before the swelling goes down before you can enjoy them fully. ;)

The only difference is your car won't @#$% your best friend... it will be faithful... hehe

[subzero05]

I have heard decent things as well about them, Im guessing however they are reselling someone else' product but whatever if it works. piggy backs are fine, actually probably the way to go now as technology continues to change. More and more companies are moving in this direction, these guys, Dinan is releasing a piggy back for our cars and others .

[sacandagaD]

Had mine for 5k now, runs the smoothest when you let it get close to redline, and let the tranny upshift for you in Manual mode. I find if I downshift quickly with the paddles, it has a slight lag as the rpms fall into the midrange.

As an aside, I removed it prior to going in for service this week, then cleared the ECU via Vag-com, and had absolutely no issues or flags at the dealer when I picked it up. Need to put it back in this weekend, as I miss the extra grunt it provides. Definitely a nice bang for your buck.

[whiped]

Had mine for 5k now, runs the smoothest when you let it get close to redline, and let the tranny upshift for you in Manual mode. I find if I downshift quickly with the paddles, it has a slight lag as the rpms fall into the midrange.

As an aside, I removed it prior to going in for service this week, then cleared the ECU via Vag-com, and had absolutely no issues or flags at the dealer when I picked it up. Need to put it back in this weekend, as I miss the extra grunt it provides. Definitely a nice bang for your buck.

On that note. Always make sure you scan and clear codes before going to the dealer.

CW will sometimes throw some soft codes that you wouldn't exactly want the dealer to see

[sacandagaD]

On that note. Always make sure you scan and clear codes before going to the dealer.

CW will sometimes throw some soft codes that you wouldn't exactly want the dealer to see

Agree, as my post indicated, that is what I did right after removing it. I have also checked it several times with Vag-com in the past few months, and have not seen any codes or had any check engine lights whatsover. Running 93 octane Shell at 5-1 setting.

[whiped]

Agree, as my post indicated, that is what I did right after removing it. I have also checked it several times with Vag-com in the past few months, and have not seen any codes or had any check engine lights whatsover. Running 93 octane Shell at 5-1 setting.

Mine has thrown a softcode a few times from driving it really hard... For example, racing a Maserati up a hill. Didn't bother turning it down though as that was the only time it would ever come up.

Discovered the code a few weeks later when scanning my car for something unrelated.

[subzero05]

Mine has thrown a softcode a few times from driving it really hard... For example, racing a Maserati up a hill. Didn't bother turning it down though as that was the only time it would ever come up.

Discovered the code a few weeks later when scanning my car for something unrelated.

that alone would keep me from installing it. just because you "cleared " a code doesn't mean a dealer cant see the "history" of the code being there. I already ran into this situation before. didn't turn out well. Their product might work ,but if codes come up they didn't do their full diligence on product R&D. I think I'll hold out until the Dinan one is available, they have been around for a long time and have a great warranty . Atleast on the BMW side of things

[4Rings3Liters]

So can someone clarify my options after installing? I don't have VAG com so can I just drive the car for a while and let it adapt?

[whiped]

that alone would keep me from installing it. just because you "cleared " a code doesn't mean a dealer cant see the "history" of the code being there. I already ran into this situation before. didn't turn out well. Their product might work ,but if codes come up they didn't do their full diligence on product R&D. I think I'll hold out until the Dinan one is available, they have been around for a long time and have a great warranty . Atleast on the BMW side of things

It clears the history as well. No issue with the dealership. I was in and out of it for 4 visits a month after that.

Car will be Stage III in a few months anyway so I'm not super worried about my warranty. Pay to play.

So can someone clarify my options after installing? I don't have VAG com so can I just drive the car for a while and let it adapt?

Yes you can do that. Best solution IMO is to install it then disconnect the battery over night.

[Cartoon]

I been running the pro for about 15,000 miles. I was initially running the basic model (which i don't think is available at this time) and threw a few soft codes for under boost. My car has been in for service three times with no issues. I do remove it and clear codes before.

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[SwankP3RF3ct10n]

I'm truly amazed how many of you are so hooked on using piggybacks and old school processes to reset the computer in a modern day car....

[sacandagaD]

that alone would keep me from installing it. just because you "cleared " a code doesn't mean a dealer cant see the "history" of the code being there. I already ran into this situation before. didn't turn out well. Their product might work ,but if codes come up they didn't do their full diligence on product R&D. I think I'll hold out until the Dinan one is available, they have been around for a long time and have a great warranty . Atleast on the BMW side of things

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you can throw a code from any of the flash tunes out there as well. Of course, it's all pay to play and we all risk voiding our warranty with these mods, but on the upside, there have been hundreds of these tuning boxes installed in Audi 3.0T models, and I know of no one that has come on to the forum about getting flagged for having a Chipwerke box yet.
Besides, just because a name like Dinan steps up, that isn't going to prevent you from getting a TD1 flag on your Audi as they don't care who it is, if it is not themselves. I don't think you can even get a Stasis car CPO'd, and they were in bed with Audi before they went bad.
And "guarantees" from any 3rd party tuner are only worth the paper they are printed on if they go belly up.

[whiped]

I don't think you can even get a Stasis car CPO'd, and they were in bed with Audi before they went bad.

Can confirm, bought my car(STaSIS Stage I at the time) and it wasn't CPO'ed specifically because of the tune.

[4Rings3Liters]

Yes you can do that. Best solution IMO is to install it then disconnect the battery over night.

The problem with that is my chipwerke comes tomorrow and Im going to install it right away and then Im hoping to take it to the drag strip in the evening to see what she'll do. How long does the battery have to be disconnected?

[whiped]

The problem with that is my chipwerke comes tomorrow and Im going to install it right away and then Im hoping to take it to the drag strip in the evening to see what she'll do. How long does the battery have to be disconnected?

Don't know as I've never done it that way.

You should be fine just dropping it in, you just wont get peak performance and expect some odd shifting and surging for the first couple passes.

[4Rings3Liters]

Will peak performance be obtained over the course of driving the car or does the battery have to be pulled or VAG com used?

[whiped]

Will peak performance be obtained over the course of driving the car or does the battery have to be pulled or VAG com used?

It should adapt itself over time.

Resetting the ECU just makes this process faster and smoother.

[subzero05]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you can throw a code from any of the flash tunes out there as well. Of course, it's all pay to play and we all risk voiding our warranty with these mods, but on the upside, there have been hundreds of these tuning boxes installed in Audi 3.0T models, and I know of no one that has come on to the forum about getting flagged for having a Chipwerke box yet.
Besides, just because a name like Dinan steps up, that isn't going to prevent you from getting a TD1 flag on your Audi as they don't care who it is, if it is not themselves. I don't think you can even get a Stasis car CPO'd, and they were in bed with Audi before they went bad.
And "guarantees" from any 3rd party tuner are only worth the paper they are printed on if they go belly up.

I don't disagree with that . Stasis went belly up, third part warranties are insurance company deals and who knows if they will actually "pay" a claim or not?. I was only suggesting that should someone like Dinan offer their warranty program on the audi side like they have done on the BMW side that might change the game a little bit.

[Q5OnTheMove]

How to do the Throttle Body Alignment with VCDS

Ross Tech narrative on Throttle Body Alignment

Link above for those that have VCDS and want to do the throttle body Alignment/reset.

[ModItNow]

The problem with that is my chipwerke comes tomorrow and Im going to install it right away and then Im hoping to take it to the drag strip in the evening to see what she'll do. How long does the battery have to be disconnected?

For me the most successful way to connect chipwerke if you can't reset your ecu is to make sure your key is away from the car for 10 minutes so it doesn't detect it. Then install and you should be good.


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[sacandagaD]

I don't disagree with that . Stasis went belly up, third part warranties are insurance company deals and who knows if they will actually "pay" a claim or not?. I was only suggesting that should someone like Dinan offer their warranty program on the audi side like they have done on the BMW side that might change the game a little bit.

While it would be interesting to see it, I would be surprised if Dinan did a piggy for our Supercharged cars. Their expertise seems to focus pretty much on turbocharged platforms, so that could make them a possible tuning option for the new generation S3 2.0T motor.

[subzero05]

While it would be interesting to see it, I would be surprised if Dinan did a piggy for our Supercharged cars. Their expertise seems to focus pretty much on turbocharged platforms, so that could make them a possible tuning option for the new generation S3 2.0T motor.

yep, agreed!~

[sigaddict]

I had annoying shift lag in my 2012 DSG , not sure if it affects manuals. I had the Pro model. Sent it back and got the EPL stage one tune. Huge improvement and no issues with shifting.

[DufraineMK6]

I have a code for boost and a CEL. My crappy scanner will get rid of the CEL but not the code. I have it on 5-1 93oct setting. assuming the code is triggering the CEL. Going to order a ross tech cable, clear code see if it comes back with the CEL. I have a feeling it will though. What else could the cable do to help me diagnose? Throttle body alignment, ecu reset maybe? (I did disconnect battery during install and let sit overnight with keys way far away from car), maybe also send to Chipwerke for update, I did buy used.

[bberg22]

To the best that I can tell the car seems to track the low boost events (the piggy tricking the ecu) over time and after a certain range will trigger the CEL. Mine did it recently, and if I remember correctly it had some mention of a certain number of kilometers traveled (like 9k). Cleared the code with vagcom and no issues.

I do notice that the car runs better when i let it softly get up to temp and then stop and turn off the car, and restart it (like if you ran into the store, or stopped to get gas, etc). This leads me to think that it isn't really learning and remembering from trip to trip.

That being said, i enjoy the Chipwerke and it is good bang for the buck.

[Ford Prefect]

I have a code for boost and a CEL. My crappy scanner will get rid of the CEL but not the code. I have it on 5-1 93oct setting. assuming the code is triggering the CEL. Going to order a ross tech cable, clear code see if it comes back with the CEL. I have a feeling it will though. What else could the cable do to help me diagnose? Throttle body alignment, ecu reset maybe? (I did disconnect battery during install and let sit overnight with keys way far away from car), maybe also send to Chipwerke for update, I did buy used.

Haven't had the issue yet but keep us posted. On a slightly different note, where are these settings every speaks of? You taking the screws out of the bottom? I didn't dare to do that and can't find anything online.

[whiped]

Haven't had the issue yet but keep us posted. On a slightly different note, where are these settings every speaks of? You taking the screws out of the bottom? I didn't dare to do that and can't find anything online.

Yes, they are under that plate.

[Ford Prefect]

Yes, they are under that plate.

Thanks man


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[sacandagaD]

Haven't had the issue yet but keep us posted. On a slightly different note, where are these settings every speaks of? You taking the screws out of the bottom? I didn't dare to do that and can't find anything online.

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[Ford Prefect]

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It's a joke from "This is Spinal Tap" an 80's hairband mocumentary. Comedy gold.

Have a CW pro (5-1) on my 2015 6 spd. Never had any lag issues. Have thrown underboost code, but only on a 90*+ day, at 2,000 feet above my normal elevation. The CEL turns it self off once I get back to sea level. Clear the codes with vag-com and dealer is none the wiser.

[sacandagaD]

It's a joke from "This is Spinal Tap" an 80's hairband mocumentary. Comedy gold.

Have a CW pro (5-1) on my 2015 6 spd. Never had any lag issues. Have thrown underboost code, but only on a 90*+ day, at 2,000 feet above my normal elevation. The CEL turns it self off once I get back to sea level. Clear the codes with vag-com and dealer is none the wiser.

I guess there are a lot of AZ members that have never watched the movie. I threw one underboost code in just over a year in my 2011 DSG at the 5-1 setting, other than that was very pleased with the performance.

[Ford Prefect]

I guess there are a lot of AZ members that have never watched the movie. I threw one underboost code in just over a year in my 2011 DSG at the 5-1 setting, other than that was very pleased with the performance.

Man I remember it, guess I need to watch it again. It's a classic.


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