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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony@EPL View Post
    I spent A LOT of time on that 91 octane file.
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    Tony@EPL, I should have a time for you with my meth setup this month. I'm expecting good things. Judging from the time posted above (stage a one on 91) what would you estimate I should be running at Tony? I know there are a lot of variables but what would you expect as a ballpark? I'm thinking it should be somewhere inbeween and stage 2 and a stage 3 does that sounds about right?

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    I'm not Tony but I have some thoughts. You likely won't be running in negative DA, so I think anywhere from 11.3 to 11.1 as a best (not necessarily right off the bat), trapping 120+, would be a very good result. I wouldn't hope for 10s, which to my knowledge haven't been done on stock S6/7 turbos. It's very hard to equal the times you see online done at private track days by tuners and/or done at the fastest tracks in the country w/ridiculously good DA and track prep.
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    Has any stage 1 car running 91 or 93 trapped 120+ yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LO KAL ViSUAL View Post
    I just came home from Sacramento Raceway. This is my first time at the track with Stage 1 EPL tcu/tune on CA 91 "knocktane" map and everything else is stock.

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    Congrats, that is a great time. Lets get this added to the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiS4B8 View Post
    Has any stage 1 car running 91 or 93 trapped 120+ yet?
    Excluding dgvr6? only unitronic's official marketing time slip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericw. View Post
    Excluding dgvr6? only unitronic's official marketing time slip.
    He ran 100 octane on his 93 file so maybe an asterisk there
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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiS4B8 View Post
    He ran 100 octane on his 93 file so maybe an asterisk there
    While that's true, general consensus has been that higher octane fuel on a lower octane tune does nothing and is a waste of money. Still, I'd imagine it might help throttle response a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericw. View Post
    While that's true, general consensus has been that higher octane fuel on a lower octane tune does nothing and is a waste of money. Still, I'd imagine it might help throttle response a bit.
    It actually would most likely hurt throttle response but would aid a full 1/4 mile pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericw. View Post
    While that's true, general consensus has been that higher octane fuel on a lower octane tune does nothing and is a waste of money. Still, I'd imagine it might help throttle response a bit.
    maybe in this platform as my experience is limited, but running E85 blend/E30 on 93 tune got me about .2/2mph on my S4- of course heat soak is a bigger issue on the TVSR cars than those with TT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cobrario View Post
    maybe in this platform as my experience is limited, but running E85 blend/E30 on 93 tune got me about .2/2mph on my S4- of course heat soak is a bigger issue on the TVSR cars than those with TT.
    E85 testing is HIGH on our priority list for this platform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericw. View Post
    While that's true, general consensus has been that higher octane fuel on a lower octane tune does nothing and is a waste of money. Still, I'd imagine it might help throttle response a bit.
    Not sure that's true. As Cobrario said above, adding higher octane fuel (e85 or 100 octane) to a standard 91/93 tune on the S4 chassis achieved better ETs and higher traps. I don't know if that translates to this platform but I can't imagine why it wouldn't. You're essentially making sure timing isn't being pulled from whatever file you're running. I'd be willing to bet the guys running the 91 file would see better results throwing 93 octane in the tank

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony@EPL View Post
    E85 testing is HIGH on our priority list for this platform.
    Can't tell you how pumped I am to see that! About seals the deal for me using EPL. Love me some corn gas...Damn shame you're not closer, I'd volunteer my car for testing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony@EPL View Post
    E85 testing is HIGH on our priority list for this platform.
    for the 4.0TT S or RS, or Both?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cobrario View Post
    for the 4.0TT S or RS, or Both?
    EPL doesn't have a tune for the RS so I think he's referring to the S models
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony@EPL View Post
    E85 testing is HIGH on our priority list for this platform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiS4B8 View Post
    EPL doesn't have a tune for the RS so I think he's referring to the S models
    We've done them and the file is very good... We're just waiting for warmer weather testing for a production release!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobrario View Post
    for the 4.0TT S or RS, or Both?
    We will be starting with the "S".

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    I'll chime on the results I had..

    With the 11.2 @ 121 run I had, I believe the 100 oct gave it a very slight bump. Not really a substantial gain as I trapped 120 with half a tank of 93.
    Unitronic trap is a half a mile faster than me which leads me to believe they're running a strong tune for stage 1.

    As for EPL, they're constantly working on their tunes which is a big plus, they've done some things for the S4 platform that kept every other tuner on their toes.
    Btw that 91 is looking strong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGVR6 View Post
    I'll chime on the results I had..

    With the 11.2 @ 121 run I had, I believe the 100 oct gave it a very slight bump. Not really a substantial gain as I trapped 120 with half a tank of 93.
    Unitronic trap is a half a mile faster than me which leads me to believe they're running a strong tune for stage 1.

    As for EPL, they're constantly working on their tunes which is a big plus, they've done some things for the S4 platform that kept every other tuner on their toes.
    Btw that 91 is looking strong.
    Interested to see what Saxon runs when he gets back to the track considering his stage 2 numbers are right in line with Unitronic's stage 1 numbers (which as you said are quite strong). I recall him saying he was having issues at the time.

    When are you planning on getting back on there??
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGVR6 View Post
    I'll chime on the results I had..

    With the 11.2 @ 121 run I had, I believe the 100 oct gave it a very slight bump. Not really a substantial gain as I trapped 120 with half a tank of 93.
    Unitronic trap is a half a mile faster than me which leads me to believe they're running a strong tune for stage 1.

    As for EPL, they're constantly working on their tunes which is a big plus, they've done some things for the S4 platform that kept every other tuner on their toes.
    Btw that 91 is looking strong.
    whatcha doing this Sunday? Wanna go to e-town? Ill shoot you a text later.

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiS4B8 View Post
    Interested to see what Saxon runs when he gets back to the track considering his stage 2 numbers are right in line with Unitronic's stage 1 numbers (which as you said are quite strong). I recall him saying he was having issues at the time.

    When are you planning on getting back on there??
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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruSTI8 View Post
    whatcha doing this Sunday? Wanna go to e-town? Ill shoot you a text later.
    I'm working this weekend bro.. I'm also waiting on a replacement wheel, brutal pothole season lol

    Once that comes in I'll go back out for a few more runs on both 93 and 100
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Morales View Post
    I'm not Tony but I have some thoughts. You likely won't be running in negative DA, so I think anywhere from 11.3 to 11.1 as a best (not necessarily right off the bat), trapping 120+, would be a very good result. I wouldn't hope for 10s, which to my knowledge haven't been done on stock S6/7 turbos. It's very hard to equal the times you see online done at private track days by tuners and/or done at the fastest tracks in the country w/ridiculously good DA and track prep.
    Yes I would have to agree with that especially after speaking with Chris (epl)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LO KAL ViSUAL View Post
    I just came home from Sacramento Raceway. This is my first time at the track with Stage 1 EPL tcu/tune on CA 91 "knocktane" map and everything else is stock.

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    Chris, I need that 93 or 100 octane map. I think I can hit 11.3-4 :)




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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiS4B8 View Post
    Has any stage 1 car running 91 or 93 trapped 120+ yet?
    i trapped 120 i believe on my 93 octane unitronic tune
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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruSTI8 View Post
    whatcha doing this Sunday? Wanna go to e-town? Ill shoot you a text later.



    I think Saxon is selling his car....
    i did sell the car, the stage 2 tune was absolutely faster, unfortunately the one time i was at the track i had bad gas and was having between 3-5* of timing being pulled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxon View Post
    i did sell the car, the stage 2 tune was absolutely faster, unfortunately the one time i was at the track i had bad gas and was having between 3-5* of timing being pulled.
    That was quick! What is the replacement?
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    Any luck getting that new time up of the database?

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    Maybe Saxon you could open the drive document for all to edit

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    Please! :-) just in case you ain't in here much as you've gone jap

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    What did he buy? Never saw anything about him selling or buying something else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiS4B8 View Post
    What did he buy? Never saw anything about him selling or buying something else?
    he mentioned looking at a GTR lol, sorry, I'm just not a fan...

    either way with track season upon us we need someone reliable to update if it's not just opened to all.
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    We could create a new document from a copy of his, and request a mod either edit his link or remove the sticky and create a new sticky. I DO NOT recommend that we open the doc to all because we can't have everyone in there adding fake times. Someone needs to be the owner to confirm time slips.

    Quote Originally Posted by cobrario View Post
    he mentioned looking at a GTR lol, sorry, I'm just not a fan...

    either way with track season upon us we need someone reliable to update if it's not just opened to all.
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    I will message him and ask. I don't mind keeping it up if everyone is ok with that?
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    I will message him and ask. I don't mind keeping it up if everyone is ok with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericw. View Post
    Gross
    agreed. I hate GTRs
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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiS4B8 View Post
    agreed. I hate GTRs
    GTR & sport bike drivers are the same in my area, they just can't help but drive like buttholes
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    Guess he never got that 10 second pass with his S6. He bailed quickly. But I can't fault a man for wanting something faster, even if it sounds like ass and fills up half of the spots at race events. Nothing novel about robocar GTRs, but I envy the aftermarket support they have.
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    I don't know Saxon personally, but based on our exchanges here on the forums...can't say I'm surprised he's a GTR guy
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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiS4B8 View Post
    I don't know Saxon personally, but based on our exchanges here on the forums...can't say I'm surprised he's a GTR guy
    not sure what thats supposed to mean :/

    working with 3rdBNCC so that he can create a google drive link that i will put in the initial post so that he can keep it updated :)

    a GTR imo is everything thats great about our car (easy to drive and doesn't take much of a driver to go fast) but it is just faster and the aftermarket is significantly better as the tuning software doesnt limit you like it does with Audi.

    good luck this year guys, im sure i'll visit often and probably see some of you at the track :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxon View Post
    not sure what thats supposed to mean :/

    working with 3rdBNCC so that he can create a google drive link that i will put in the initial post so that he can keep it updated :)

    a GTR imo is everything thats great about our car (easy to drive and doesn't take much of a driver to go fast) but it is just faster and the aftermarket is significantly better as the tuning software doesnt limit you like it does with Audi.

    good luck this year guys, im sure i'll visit often and probably see some of you at the track :)
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    Saxon , good luck on the search of a GTR, theyre animals. We all know you switch cars like underwear lol.
    I agree though, a lot of aftermarket support with GTRs
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