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    Brake recommendation

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    Hey Guys, I'm trying to change my brakes and rotors for my s4, b8.5 any recommendations? :)

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    https://www.adamsrotors.com

    They might have a Black Friday sale if you wait a week. *cough-cough (hint)*

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    a lot of threads on this. Will depend heavily on what you plan on doing w the car. If just a DD many folks use the Euro Akebono pads and a basic rotor (I went w Zimmerman). Bought my set from ECS Tuning and no complaints.

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    Brake recommendation

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    If you go with a two piece, you can usually cut some weight at the corners. They are gonna run you more $$ usually, though.
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    brembo have new "PVT" discs out with 40% increased crack resistance and better cooling according to the marketing info

    https://www.bremboparts.com/europe/e...ro/000030001-1

    and

    https://www.bremboparts.com/europe/e...vt-ventilation
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpfour View Post
    brembo have new "PVT" discs out with 40% increased crack resistance and better cooling according to the marketing info

    https://www.bremboparts.com/europe/e...ro/000030001-1

    and

    https://www.bremboparts.com/europe/e...vt-ventilation

    very interesting, thanks for the info :) a new option in town haha wish they would make a 2piece !
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    First time changing the brakes on mine since I bought her last year. ECS tuning had a sale a couple months back on their Geomet rotors and hawk pads. Quite pleased but did notice the factory brakes had a bit more bite but pleased with the overall performance and less brake dust.

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    This next spring, when I need new brake pads (I currently have the Akebono pads and put them on about 14 months ago) I'm just going to do the rotors as well and I will be going with another set of the Akebono brake pads and then the ECS Stage 1 2-piece kit...

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    No track days, Daily driver with some spirited weekend cruises. No need really for me to upgrade to a larger rotor or larger caliper, but this will be an upgrade over stock.

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    ^ Get your Akebonos a lot cheaper on Amazon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 14S4GWM View Post
    ^ Get your Akebonos a lot cheaper on Amazon.
    Thanks for the heads up, just looked, yes, about $50 cheaper...
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    If you're going bbk, carid.com has good prices on the stoptech kit, when I added it to my cart, and I didn't order right away, they called me and offered another 5% off

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    Quote Originally Posted by iiphongs2 View Post
    Hey Guys, I'm trying to change my brakes and rotors for my s4, b8.5 any recommendations? :)
    Zero benefit to upgrading you rotors unless you plan on tracking the vehicle or just prefer the aesthetics of a drilled or slotted rotor. Like many have mentioned already Aekbono puts out a great daily driver pad relativity cheap. As for rotors Stoptech offers all 3 options (slotted / drilled and smooth) at a decent price if you need new ones. Otherwise all common sense aside get a BBK if you can swing the cost...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by db12 View Post
    Zero benefit to upgrading you rotors unless you plan on tracking the vehicle or just prefer the aesthetics of a drilled or slotted rotor. Like many have mentioned already Aekbono puts out a great daily driver pad relativity cheap. As for rotors Stoptech offers all 3 options (slotted / drilled and smooth) at a decent price if you need new ones. Otherwise all common sense aside get a BBK if you can swing the cost...lol
    You can get some weight reduction with lighter 2pc rotors which is always nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mintytoo View Post
    You can get some weight reduction with lighter 2pc rotors which is always nice.
    tried to get actual fact about ligther rotor and no one could confirm any performance upgrade ( i.e: quicker 0-100 or 1/4) due to the ligther rotor.. I guess the weight is too close to the hub and can't really be felt.
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    I have no numbers to prove either way, but people keep saying reducing un sprung weight is great. And I'm thinking about lighter wheels/tires too. I mean, it can't hurt right? In the track thread, they're all saying to get the best time, you should not have more than 1/4 tank, another weight reducing attempt.
    Quote Originally Posted by waxxonMTL View Post
    tried to get actual fact about ligther rotor and no one could confirm any performance upgrade ( i.e: quicker 0-100 or 1/4) due to the ligther rotor.. I guess the weight is too close to the hub and can't really be felt.

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    There are numerous threads on this mate... did you mean "brakes" (i.e., calipers and pads) or "brake pads" and "rotors" for the OEM calipers?

    If you want a brake upgrade, I have been doing quite a bit of research and I think these gives the biggest upgrade at decent value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mintytoo View Post
    I have no numbers to prove either way, but people keep saying reducing un sprung weight is great. And I'm thinking about lighter wheels/tires too. I mean, it can't hurt right?
    Well, it can hurt your bank balance. People say a lot of things, especially on the internet. Remember, this car weighs 2 tons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportVier View Post
    Well, it can hurt your bank balance. People say a lot of things, especially on the internet. Remember, this car weighs 2 tons.
    Kinda taking what I said out of context. I said it can't make you any slower by decreasing weight.
    Yes, and every pound counts. Oh and that saying that's so prevalent here, gotta pay to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waxxonMTL View Post
    tried to get actual fact about ligther rotor and no one could confirm any performance upgrade ( i.e: quicker 0-100 or 1/4) due to the ligther rotor.. I guess the weight is too close to the hub and can't really be felt.
    I saw this post and I thought I would create a new thread that is related. I did a very simple test for wheel/tire weights that I had not shared until now: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...4#post12011054


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    Quote Originally Posted by eurotic View Post
    I saw this post and I thought I would create a new thread that is related. I did a very simple test for wheel/tire weights that I had not shared until now: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...4#post12011054


    Shawn
    I feel you on tire/wheels as they are far from the center of the hub and I also felt a nice improvement in handling and also felt my car was quicker with my lighter summer setup, but for the rotor closer to the hub, I haven't found anything really useful, so I would rather put that money toward something else that will be felt more.

    and those new brembo xtra rotor look really nice.... nice technology too. I prefer solid rotor TBH, but if Brembo did extensive testing and came out saying the drilled increase performance over solid, i will trust them.

    P.S: if you want to shave any weight, brembo Q5 caliper are 10 pound ligther than the S4/A4. which actually offer more weight reduction than a rotor 2 piece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waxxonMTL View Post
    tried to get actual fact about ligther rotor and no one could confirm any performance upgrade ( i.e: quicker 0-100 or 1/4) due to the ligther rotor.. I guess the weight is too close to the hub and can't really be felt.
    I did a lot of reading on unsprung weight and it was either for every lb of unsprung weight you drop is equivalent to either 10 lbs or 20lbs of total weight. Sorry cant recall which it was either way when I did my calculation based for tracking with new BBK and lighter rims worked out to 210 lbs reduction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by db12 View Post
    I did a lot of reading on unsprung weight and it was either for every lb of unsprung weight you drop is equivalent to either 10 lbs or 20lbs of total weight. Sorry cant recall which it was either way when I did my calculation based for tracking with new BBK and lighter rims worked out to 210 lbs reduction.
    Easier than taking out the back seats

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    Quote Originally Posted by mintytoo View Post
    Easier than taking out the back seats
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by mintytoo View Post
    Easier than taking out the back seats
    Not sure it is any easier, and it is definitely a lot more expensive.

    Anyone have any experience with the Centric "High Carbon" rotors? Just the non-bling version of a Stoptech Sport rotor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpfour View Post
    brembo have new "PVT" discs out with 40% increased crack resistance and better cooling according to the marketing info

    https://www.bremboparts.com/europe/e...ro/000030001-1

    and

    https://www.bremboparts.com/europe/e...vt-ventilation
    I have these rotors and they are being installed next Tuesday with akebono euro ceramics. All bought from amazon. I can provide feedback next week
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    Quote Originally Posted by BJYorko View Post
    Thanks for the heads up, just looked, yes, about $50 cheaper...
    can you link the correct amazon link for b8 s4 Akebono pads? thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlaudio View Post
    I have these rotors and they are being installed next Tuesday with akebono euro ceramics. All bought from amazon. I can provide feedback next week
    jlaudio, do you have any pictures of the rotors installed? How have they been working out for you?

    I checked Amazon and I get no results when I search for the rear rotors using the part number 09.B040.1x.
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    Lbsigman - these are the rotors: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1, but they fit my '11, not sure if they were changed for the 13/14/15/16 years. I've got a rear pair waiting to go on next weekend or so

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    I've been shopping different rotor/pad setups for awhile now and after looking long and hard at ECS and Adams offerings, I ended up going with EBC rotors and Akebono pads. I don't track the car and primarily want less dust and something that doesn't scream like a banshee in cold weather. I haven't installed (or received) them yet but from what I've seen, this price/performance combo can't be beat. Tracking says I should have these tomorrow. The price seems to go up and down a little but I have provided links and the price I paid when ordered for reference.

    EBC front rotors $184.38

    EBC rear rotors $138.53 (listed higher currently)

    Akebono front pads $81.57

    Akebono rear pads $49.13 (listed slightly lower currently)

    Total was ~$450 to my door with no shipping or tax. You can't beat that!
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    Just an FYI if you want EBC rotors, the best place I found them was from Autozone (with discount code: WINTER20)

    EBC Front Rotors: $171.19 shipped
    EBC Rear Rotors: $127.99 shipped
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    I think the Stop Tech are way better than the EBC and theyre around the same price. I got all my brake stuff ( pads and rotors ) on AutoAnything.com and have never had an issue. They have free fast shipping and they usually ship same day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiped View Post
    Just an FYI if you want EBC rotors, the best place I found them was from Autozone (with discount code: WINTER20)

    EBC Front Rotors: $171.19 shipped
    EBC Rear Rotors: $127.99 shipped
    Didn't know about the discount code or I would have jumped on that. Good to know if anyone else is looking, so long as there isn't tax added on...

    Quote Originally Posted by speedy0339 View Post
    I think the Stop Tech are way better than the EBC and theyre around the same price. I got all my brake stuff ( pads and rotors ) on AutoAnything.com and have never had an issue. They have free fast shipping and they usually ship same day.
    This will be my first time running EBC rotors but I have used their pads in the past several times and am a big fan. If they're rotors are anywhere near as good as their pads, I'll be happy. When I was shopping prices, the Stoptechs were slightly more. I'm sure either would be more than adequate for daily drivers and huge improvement over OEM (noise and dust at least).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbullet S4 View Post
    Didn't know about the discount code or I would have jumped on that. Good to know if anyone else is looking, so long as there isn't tax added on...



    This will be my first time running EBC rotors but I have used their pads in the past several times and am a big fan. If they're rotors are anywhere near as good as their pads, I'll be happy. When I was shopping prices, the Stoptechs were slightly more. I'm sure either would be more than adequate for daily drivers and huge improvement over OEM (noise and dust at least).
    Yeah, honestly the rotor doesn't really matter. The big thing is the pad. I didn't like the stop tech street performance pads, and ended up switching to the hps 5.0 pads.
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    Hi guys, the stock brakes create a lot of dust . Is the dust reduced with the aftermarket pad like the Akebono pads ?

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    Any low dust pad (ceramic like Akebono or otherwise) will be significantly less dust than OEM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waxxonMTL View Post
    tried to get actual fact about ligther rotor and no one could confirm any performance upgrade ( i.e: quicker 0-100 or 1/4) due to the ligther rotor.. I guess the weight is too close to the hub and can't really be felt.
    There a number of threads on reducing your "un sprung weight". A lot of it debate is how much un sprung weight extrapolates to actual weight reduction benefit. Seems every pound you reduce at the wheel ranges from 10 - 20 lbs of overall weight equivalant. (debate continues...lol) Net result is any weight you can remove at the wheel is a huge benefit versus jumping on the treadmill trying to lose a couple pounds ;)
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