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  1. #1
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    Advice on this 2008 S5 with 65K miles on it

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    Hi,
    I'm looking at this 2008 S5 (manual) that has about 65K miles on it.

    I have all the service records from 2008 from the owner and it was serviced an Audi since the beginning.

    The owner has said he has spent on average $1400 USD per year over the last 5 years on maintenance (not including tires or brakes!).

    Here are some things I see in the records, much of it is cryptic to me:

    I will just summarize some of the things in order starting from this year going back to 2008.

    2016:
    July: check engine light on.
    complaint: customer reports engine is backfiring
    cause: misfire on cyclinders #2 and 4 found leaking injectors for cylinders 2 and 4, and missiing intake runner arm clip
    correction: removed intake, replaced clip, replaced #2 and #4 injectors, reinstalled intake and cleared faults and road tested
    parts: injector, battery, clip, repair kit, gasket, injector F, tie wrap

    June:
    service 80K miles
    change oil, filter, inspect brake system, rotors
    correction: blades, washer fluid, wheel tire check, etc..

    April:
    seasonal wheel change

    2015:

    April:
    seasonal wheel change
    brake fluid service
    front brake service (cleaning and relubrication)
    rear brake service

    Nov:
    seasonal wheel change
    camps and modification (ecm software update)

    2014:

    August
    complaint: oil level sensor
    correction: drained and reused oil, replaced level sensor and road test

    June:
    complaint: diag prior: replace headlamp level sensor
    parts: level sensor

    May:
    60K service

    April:
    complaint: ECM software

    2013
    Nov:
    complaint: customer says fuel smell in cabin
    correction: replace high pressure pump and clear all CTCS and wash engine and road test
    parts: fuel pump, thrust sensor

    May:

    15K service
    complaint: engine light on
    cause: multiple misfires stored, only TSB's related is for carbon deposit, will supply additive
    correction: supply additive and make sure high grade fuel used


    April:
    seasonal tire change

    2012:

    Nov:
    seasonal tire change

    July:
    15K serviing
    complaint: engine light on
    cause: misfires on 3 and 6 cylinders, checked with horoscope 1, 2 and 4 are leaking.
    returned to customer but misfires 2 days later.
    correction: injectors replaced 1000 miles ago when misfires at cylinders 2 and 6 scanned misfire codes. now with 1,2 and 5.
    checked with horoscope 1,2,4 leaking past seals removed and replaced 1,2,4 injectors.
    parts:
    bolt, spark plug, injector F, gasket, hose, repair kit, repair kit, addtitive, filter elem, on steward, washer, engine oil, washer,
    bolt, spark plug, additive, washer, on steward, 40 PRE mix, injector F, gasket, hose, additive, repair kit, repair kit, filter elem,
    wahser, engine oil, 40PRE mix.


    July:
    complaint: engine light on
    correction: replace fuel, add additive, check faults cyclinder 1,2,3,4 have misfire faults. previously customer told bad fuel,
    filled with 91 octane and added audi fuel cleaner, pulled all plugs and inspect, all ok, reinstalled.

    June:
    complaint: check engine light on, cold start engine idles rough, backfire cold
    correction: car ran a bit rough, codes for 1,2,3,4 cyclinders. no carbon, injectors have been replaced.
    call tech line, told car has bad fuel. use premium and if using premium go to other station


    May:
    complaint: miss fire
    cause: misfires 1,2,4 cylinders,
    correction: remove intake manifold, replace 1,2,4 injectors and reseal #3 injector. install manifold, clear faults.
    parts: injector, repair kit, gasket, washer, injector, repair kit, gasket, washer, clip, hose, hose, battery


    May:
    balance tires

    2011
    Dec:
    complaint: check engine light on
    correction: remove intake manifold, remove both injector rails, replace # 3 and 6 injectors, replace all seals on remaining injectors,
    clean carbon off valves, reassemble, clear faults.
    partS:
    injector, gasket, repair kit, clip, injector, gasket, reapir kit, clip.


    August:
    35K servicing



    June:
    complaint: engine light on
    correction: scan misfire, fault found in TSB completed prior, remove intake, remove carbon build up, reassemble.
    parts: injector F, gasket, clip, additive, injector F, clip, additive


    Jan:
    complain: check engline light on
    correction: scan misfire cyclinder 4 checked
    parts: additve

    ....
    the rest is just regular trips.



    Is this a problem car with misfires and injectors?

    Looks like the brakes/pads are still original also, which I think will cost $1500 to replace eventually.

  2. #2
    Established Member Two Rings
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    Walk away. There's obviously a long term issue with the engine, and the Audi techs aren't fixing it, just bandaging the problem.

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    I was pretty excited about this car, 1 owner, dealer maintained. This service history kind of put me off this car completely. Is this just a normal thing for many of these cars or this is a lemon?
    Is this a 2008 issue that was fixed in 2009? :)

    I understand it is a high performance v8 but....

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    Active Member Two Rings
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    It's not uncommon for different things to go wrong, but from the logs it's the same issue over and over and over again. I wouldn't buy it. Those injectors and seals aren't cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themirror View Post
    It's not uncommon for different things to go wrong, but from the logs it's the same issue over and over and over again. I wouldn't buy it. Those injectors and seals aren't cheap.
    How much are they?

    Why would something like this keep re-occuring?

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    Active Member Two Rings
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    https://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B8_S5...uel/Injectors/

    No idea, maybe some contamination somewhere else in the system that's causing the seals to go bad. Or just a lemon.

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    who knows who cares, you can obviously tell something is wrong with the engine if it constantly has the same issue , so unless you like paying 1500$+ on repairs every year, then walk away

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    Veteran Member Four Rings HazeMyth's Avatar
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    You could always just put a piece of tape over the check engine light so you can't see it come on anymore.

    If it were me, I wouldn't buy it. I've dealt with lemons in the past.
    2013 Audi S5 - EPL Stg 2 ECU/TCU
    2011 Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport - Lifted, reinforced, and slow
    2003 Evolution VIII - HKS280, FBO
    2004 Subaru STI - Stg. 2 (Sold)
    IG: @MrHazeMyth

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    lol

    Man it is really tempting, the owner is trading the car in so he is giving me an amazing price on it. But the cyclinder issue is a deal breaker!

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    DQ, I would walk away. Its great that the seller is so honest, but he is so passive that the dealer is just , as another member stated, "bandaging" the problem. And, taking advantage of him. And no, its not even close to normal ; this takes "maintenance" to a whole new level! Unfortunately, no one at that Dealer is thinking.

    These cars aren't rare, find another one and anything reasonably well maintained under 100K miles is fine.

    By the way, if he is trading it in, why would he give you a "amazing" price on it?? (why is he even bothering to try and sell it privately?) Could it be that the Dealer is also aware of the Hx and don't want it either and they are going to give him little or nothing for it?

    Doesn't make sense. RUN!

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    He is trading it in so that the new car he gets will be cheaper for him tax wise. So as long as he can find a buyer, the dealer will buy the car, then sell it to me. So it is a trade it with a gauranteed buyer so owner can get his new car and pay less tax, and the dealership sells the new car.

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