New S6 break In

[fatherdeath]

What have people done as their first 1000miles for break in?
Right now I'm staying low of the rpms and mild driving 160miles in

[wwhan]

Drive in dynamic sport mode, with lots of varied rpm, right up to the limit (when fully warmed).

[fatherdeath]

wont that hurt and kill my future mileage?

[LINDW4LL]

You'll find lots of us are proponents of a hard break-in. Babying the car during this process sometimes lead to oil consumption down the road.

Regardless of whether you follow the above or not, you should vary your RPMs a lot to help seat the rings.

[SilveR316]

You have at most a few hundred miles to seat the rings properly. This won't happen if you baby the engine.

Warm it up to proper operating temperature and do controlled red line runs. I've done this with every new engine I've had and there have been zero issues with mileage, oil consumption, or reliability.

[fatherdeath]

noted Im changing the way I drive tomorrow once the car is at op temp. this is the first New audi I have bought the rest were used

[Carl Weathers]

I always drive like a dick to break an engine in. Hasn't failed me yet, lol.

[Ze_Nardo6]

As soon as engine hits proper operating temp, drive it hard! Seat those rings!

That does not mean to bang the rev limiter on every gear. Most important to vary RPM while driving. Long freeway cruises at the same RPM during the first 1k miles is not great for the engine

[DGVR6]

So none of you guys burnt any oil during the first 5k doing this method?

[DGVR6]

noted Im changing the way I drive tomorrow once the car is at op temp. this is the first New audi I have bought the rest were used

Make sure it's the oil temp is not coolant.

[fatherdeath]

Is there a way to check that other then driving for like 15 min

[hmuller]

Is there a way to check that other then driving for like 15 min

If you have VCDS you can activate lap timer which displays the oil temp.

PS: Enjoy the Autobahn. I grew up using it daily and dearly miss having it after moving to the US.

[Xtek]

I kept mine under 4,000 with varied RPM in the first 1,000 miles. No oil consumption issues, no issues at all actually. Other than some broken motor mounts.

If we trust Audi with making the car I don't see why we shouldn't trust them with the recommended break-in process.

[jsmonet]

your brake pads probably could use bedding and your dsg's clutch packs may want a couple days of you not launching it.

drive the balls off of it. quick screwing around.

[///S6///]

Have never broken in any of my new vehicles... Drive it like you stole it!!

[plat]

I have always followed the Owners Manual of my vehicles for break-in advice. I also follow advice that some of the posters above mentioned such as revving the engine a bit higher (not exceeding 2/3 of the maximum permitted engine speed) and varying the revs a lot (i.e., no extended constant rev). I have owned a lot of new cars over the course of my life and I have not experienced unusual oil consumption issues in any of my cars. That said, if you follow the advice of the manufacturer, you won't be blamed if your engine starts drinking oil just because you did not follow the factory recommended break-in procedure. The bottom line is that your car is yours. Regardless of what others say about driving it hard, I would stick to your instinct and drive moderately (not to the point of babying it) following the manufacturer's advice. If your engine develops problems and it is blamed for wrong break-in practices, the posters who told you to drive it hard won't be footing your bill for the repairs let alone the pain and suffering you'll go through.

Here is the break-in instructions found in Page 62 of your new S6's Owners Manual which, btw. is a good toilet reading material

Breaking In:
A new vehicle must be broken in, and the break-in distance should be 1,000 miles (1,500 km). Do not drive at speeds that will exceeed 2/3 of the maximum permitted engine speed (RPM) for the first 600 miles (1,000 kms), and avoid FULL acceleration during this period. You may gradually start increasing the RPM and the speed between 600 miles (1,000 kms) and 1,000 miles (1,500 kms).

During the first hours of use, the engine has a higher internal friction than later on when all the moving parts have settled into place with each other.

How the vehicle is driven during the first 1,000 miles (1,500 kms) also affects the engine quality. Drive at moderate speeds after the initial break-in period, particularly when running a cold engine. This will reduce engine wear and improve mileage.

Do not drive at too low of an engine speed (RPM). Shift down if the engine stops running "smoothly". Extremely high engine speeds are automatically reduced.

I do recommend bedding the brakes, too. I do it on all my cars. There are lots of posts in this forum on how to bed the brakes properly.

[Ze_Nardo6]

I have always followed the Owners Manual of my vehicles for break-in advice. I also follow advice that some of the posters above mentioned such as revving the engine a bit higher (not exceeding 2/3 of the maximum permitted engine speed) and varying the revs a lot (i.e., no extended constant rev). I have owned a lot of new cars over the course of my life and I have not experienced unusual oil consumption issues in any of my cars. That said, if you follow the advice of the manufacturer, you won't be blamed if your engine starts drinking oil just because you did not follow the factory recommended break-in procedure. The bottom line is that your car is yours. Regardless of what others say about driving it hard, I would stick to your instinct and drive moderately (not to the point of babying it) following the manufacturer's advice. If your engine develops problems and it is blamed for wrong break-in practices, the posters who told you to drive it hard won't be footing your bill for the repairs let alone the pain and suffering you'll go through.

Here is the break-in instructions found in Page 62 of your new S6's Owners Manual which, btw. is a good toilet reading material



I do recommend bedding the brakes, too. I do it on all my cars. There are lots of posts in this forum on how to bed the brakes properly.

As you said, to each his own.

I will throw this out there. I was recently invited to a Porsche driving experience to drive all the new 2017 models (invited by a friend who has many P cars). They had some big time engineers at the event (it was a small event with a lot of personal coaching, etc.). They put us in these cars and told us to drive them as hard as we could. As I sat in the cars, I started looking at the odometers. Every single car I sat in had less than 200 miles on the clock. When I got out of the new 911 S, I looked at one of the engineers and said, "This car has 78 miles on it. No break-in?" He responds, "That's how break-in a proper performance engine."

I wouldn't personally throw my own car on the track straight off the assembly line. But I will say it's a testament to how performance engines need extreme heat very early on to properly seat components.

[Xtek]

As you said, to each his own.

I will throw this out there. I was recently invited to a Porsche driving experience to drive all the new 2017 models (invited by a friend who has many P cars). They had some big time engineers at the event (it was a small event with a lot of personal coaching, etc.). They put us in these cars and told us to drive them as hard as we could. As I sat in the cars, I started looking at the odometers. Every single car I sat in had less than 200 miles on the clock. When I got out of the new 911 S, I looked at one of the engineers and said, "This car has 78 miles on it. No break-in?" He responds, "That's how break-in a proper performance engine."

I wouldn't personally throw my own car on the track straight off the assembly line. But I will say it's a testament to how performance engines need extreme heat very early on to properly seat components.

That's a bit of a bad example though. Those a press cars, they are always beat on and they know it. They don't care if they don't perform that well in the long-term.

[plat]

That's a bit of a bad example though. Those a press cars, they are always beat on and they know it. They don't care if they don't perform that well in the long-term.

+1

[Xtek]

Here's a great video from a great YouTuber who speakers about this topic with dat and science.

[plat]

Nice video on why new cars need a proper break-in period. His explanation makes a lot of sense.

[fatherdeath]

So todays drive in to work (im at work now) I kept it in Dyn and Sport mode while keeping it under 4krpm but varying quite a bit

[Ze_Nardo6]

That's a bit of a bad example though. Those a press cars, they are always beat on and they know it. They don't care if they don't perform that well in the long-term.

Touche. But the engineers comment still holds some truth. Like I said, I wouldn't throw my car on a track and/or redline gears in the first 500-1000 miles. But I would drive it aggressively, varying RPM as much as possible.

[zuperjamez]

I have used hard break in on my Sti and Ducati Diavel. I have the only sti I know of that doesn't burn oil. The trick is run to red line once warm and then hard engine braking. Here is a whole blog about it.

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

[Djpeaksd]

I'm a drive it like you stole it break in guy but this is a great video giving the other side to the story with some actual data to back it up. However, lets talk about reality (for me anyways) maybe I am a minority in this but I have never ordered a brand new car. I have purchased many brand new cars but they were on a lot. Maybe since I live in So Cal and we have so many dealers around it has been way easier to just find the car and make a deal. I am also very impatient by the way. My point though is all of these cars had some miles on them and other people have gone on test drives in the car I ultimatley purchased. When I take a test drive on a performance vehicle I definitely floor it a few times to see what its got, as Im sure many others have done as well. So my guess is that most cars that are not customer ordered are going to have 30- 200 tough miles on them before you can even attempt to break it in.

[fatherdeath]

My car had 0 test drives was delivered to me at the factory with 7 miles

[Ze_Nardo6]

My car had 0 test drives was delivered to me at the factory with 7 miles

7 miles, probably only a few test drives

[redrocker55]

I only use this method. It's responsible, controlled, hard break-in.

http://mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

[saxon]

i believe in breaking in the engine by using the engine as a "brake" and go in increments up to 5000rpm.

example:
slowly in 3rd gear drive up to 2000rpm and engine brake down
up to 3000rpm, engine brake down
up to 4000rpm, engine brake down
up to 5000rpm engine brake down

then i dont cruise at a defined speed such as highway cruising up to 500 miles.

after that i drive it like i stole it. engines that ive personally built have over 150k miles on them and don't burn a drop of oil using this method

[wwhan]

My new S6 off the lot had 38 miles on it.

My B8 S4, that I ordered, had 24 miles on it, when I recieved it.

[saxon]

I only use this method. It's responsible, controlled, hard break-in.

http://mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

yep