Spark plug and oil choices

[onceover]

Hey all,

I'm coming from a B6 with a built 1.8T so trying to gauge what people are running in their 2.0Ts these days. Tried searching the forums but had little success finding a definitive choice.

I would always run Rotella T6 5W40 or 0W40 in the B6 and was quite happy with it.

As for plugs I would run NGK BKR7E's with a GT3076R, and when it was stock I ran one heat range warmer, BKR6E. This choice came from a great post over at audigeeks - http://myfastgti.com/volkswagen/thre...eat-Range-Info

The question is, are these choices still valid for the 2.0T?

[s4baby]

I run BKR8EIX plugs on GIAC Stage 2 tune.

For oil I get a 5 quart jug from Walmart of Mobil 1 0W-40 for $25 bucks and a factory oil filter from the dealer for around $15.

There are 100's of post in regards to the many options. It comes down to personal preference and budget.

[earhythmic]

I'm running the same BKR8EIX plugs as above, gapped at .022 and have been using Rotella T6 for the past 3 oil changes. I'm APR stage 2 and running e85 almost 100% of the time, it's been solid.

[ichigoismyhomie]

Ditto on Mobil1 0W-40 from walmart, but I usually order my filter from amazon. As for spark plugs, I would check what ECS use for their ignition service kit.

[BrianVan]

Mobil 0w-40 for $25 and got a $12 rebate once from Walmart....ordered a 5 pak of MANN filters from ECS at $10-11 a filter and their ECS bolt plug with magnet and brass crush washers. Wasn't too confident in their hex bolt and the fear of it stripping out. just changed it for winter here in chicago and runs great...plugs..unknown...picked my 2013 up a few months ago off a lease.

[rainydaze]

Does everyone here who does there own oil changes also have a Vag Com? Or do you ignore the service light?

[LmG7119]

Does everyone here who does there own oil changes also have a Vag Com? Or do you ignore the service light?

I don't think you need Vag Com if you have MMI 3g http://mr-fix.info/audi-mmi-3g-reset...rval-reminder/

[ak11214]

I don't think you need Vag Com if you have MMI 3g http://mr-fix.info/audi-mmi-3g-reset...rval-reminder/

MMI only reset regular oil change but not service interval at 15k 25k 35k etc...

[TVP125]

NGK BKR8EIX plugs with Castrol 0w-40 no issues.

[TurboNate]

Does everyone here who does there own oil changes also have a Vag Com? Or do you ignore the service light?

You can use Carista and it will reset service interval


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[onceover]

Those of you using iridium plugs, whats your change interval?

[ILVTRANCE]

I use Liqui Moly 2332 Leichtlauf High Tech 5W-40 Engine Oil - 5 Liter https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[TwinTipSkier]

Rotella T6 5w40 & NGK BKR8EIX, change em every ~15k

Change my service interval via MMI.

Another former B6er! Hiya. You miss it yet? These B8s are nice, but I tell ya... nothing compares to a well built B6... (just me being nostalgic)

[B8_Dude97]

Castro synthetic 0w-40 and NGK BKR8EIX. With a oem Audi filter for 12 bucks Amazon prime


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[hyperunion]

Rotella T6 5w40 & NGK BKR8EIX, change em every ~15k

Change my service interval via MMI.

Another former B6er! Hiya. You miss it yet? These B8s are nice, but I tell ya... nothing compares to a well built B6... (just me being nostalgic)

Same here.. miss my k04 b6 on pss9's best setup!
Running castrol edge oe , mixed with liqi moly ceratec, and same ngk bkr8eix plugs!..
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[Jacon]

Motul 8100.

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[onceover]

Rotella T6 5w40 & NGK BKR8EIX, change em every ~15k

Change my service interval via MMI.

Another former B6er! Hiya. You miss it yet? These B8s are nice, but I tell ya... nothing compares to a well built B6... (just me being nostalgic)

There are definitely things I miss about the B6, but I was getting really sick of fixing things. It's nice to just get in the car and drive sometimes...

Motul 8100.

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Not really, you didnt say anything about spark plugs...

[Zach L]

I use Liqui Moly 2332 Leichtlauf High Tech 5W-40 Engine Oil - 5 Liter https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

x2

That's what I run in my daily driver. Recently switched to it from the Liqui Moly 2041 Synthoil Premium, which I had great results with for about 3 years running it in several of my cars. In the same cars I tried Mobil-1, Pentosin and even ran some ester-based oils from Redline and Motul. Not a fan of the ester oils for a daily driver anymore.

I used to run the Rotella in my Corrado, Mk3, etc. but I would NOT consider it an 'advanced' oil. It does not have the additives of newly developed, long-life oils. I consider Rotella to be basic in that sense compared to Liqui-Moly and other newer, german-made synthetics.

[Jacon]

x2
Not a fan of the ester oils for a daily driver anymore.

Why?

[Jacon]

Not really, you didnt say anything about spark plugs...

NGK BKR7s. The BKR8s are too cold

APR stg II

[Zach L]

Why?

While they were great when fresh, seems like they would break down much quicker than the Pentosin and Liquid Moly. I'm not sure of the science behind it, but the engines were audibly much louder at startup with the higher ester oils, especially the Redline. Sounded like the rod bearings wouldn't get as much oil for a few seconds. This was not a one time test; ran these more expensive oils several times. While I know these oils will be more stable during track days or hot-temp canyon driving, I was not a fan. My belief is they're superior in racing applications but lack the long life characteristics that are preferable in a daily driver. Whether this results solely from the additive pack differences, I do not know.

[hyperunion]

NGK BKR7s. The BKR8s are too cold

APR stg II

Maybe for older b8's.. but definitely recommended for flexfuel b8.5s running e85 stg2 tunes!

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[NRigs]

I am am using PRF8S8EG on stage 1. No issues whatsoever. I also have a b8.5.

[Jacon]

While they were great when fresh, seems like they would break down much quicker than the Pentosin and Liquid Moly. I'm not sure of the science behind it, but the engines were audibly much louder at startup with the higher ester oils, especially the Redline. Sounded like the rod bearings wouldn't get as much oil for a few seconds. This was not a one time test; ran these more expensive oils several times. While I know these oils will be more stable during track days or hot-temp canyon driving, I was not a fan. My belief is they're superior in racing applications but lack the long life characteristics that are preferable in a daily driver. Whether this results solely from the additive pack differences, I do not know.

Well, I change mine every 5K and haven't notice those problems. In fact, the Motul solved my oil consumption problems.

[A4x]

NGK BKR7s. The BKR8s are too cold

APR stg II

Arent 7's cooler than 8's???

[Jacon]

Arent 7's cooler than 8's???

no

[Dr. Awesome]

I'm running Mobil 1 0W-40 Euro, my NGK BKR7EIX are coming today. Running stage 1 tune.

[A4x]

Arent 7's cooler than 8's???

no

Just confused, because the BKR7s say they are a colder heat range than stock. And they are 7's.

[onceover]

See link in my original post

[hyperunion]

Just confused, because the BKR7s say they are a colder heat range than stock. And they are 7's.

Stock is 6 , 7 and 8 colder... 8's are recommended for apr's stg 3 applications, and k04....

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[Demringstho864]

motul 8100 every 5000 miles, i also run copper plugs and replace them every 5000 miles. My car runs better with them. copper displaces heat better then platinum or iridium plugs. Plus there dirt cheap.

[Zach L]

I was surprised to find 7's in my stock A4. Purchased the car in April with 52,000 miles and just put new plugs last week. Any reason a non-chipped car would have 7's?

[Zach L]

motul 8100 every 5000 miles, i also run copper plugs and replace them every 5000 miles. My car runs better with them. copper displaces heat better then platinum or iridium plugs. Plus there dirt cheap.

x2 on the plugs

Copper is superior to any other plug, including iridium and platinum. It conducts electricity better, but just doesn't have the longevity. That's the only reason to use other metals... for the longevity. If people want the best plug and don't mind changing often, they should be running copper. Cost ends up being similar or cheaper, just not as convenient.

[onceover]

I ran coppers in the B6. With how cheap they are and how easy it was to change them there was really no reason to run the iridium or platinum ones. Glad to hear it's the same case for B8 guys.

[bluefox280]

NGK BKR7s.

Copper (BKR7E) or iridium?

...i also run copper plugs...

Which ones?

I'm debating on my Allroad (APR 91oct Stage 1) on the BKR7E's or the BKR8EIX's.
I lean more towards the BKR7E's due to lower cost, easy availability and I don't mind the more frequent change intervals. Thoughts?

- Erik

[Downhill]

I use the Filters from ECS Tuning for $10-11/each. Castrol Syntec (full synthetic) 0W-40 or 5W-40. Amazon sells engine and cabin air filters under $20 and they fit. Amazon has the Bosch Iridium plugs 4 for $27.

[JinDIS]

I was surprised to find 7's in my stock A4. Purchased the car in April with 52,000 miles and just put new plugs last week. Any reason a non-chipped car would have 7's?

During my 35k maintenance, the dealer listed 4x 06H-905-601-A Spark plugs in the invoice
A quick google search lists said part as NGK PFR7S8EG

[audrobotic]

From NGK:
"Copper spark plugs" is a term mistakenly used for a standard or traditional spark plug. A standard spark plug traditionally uses a nickel-alloy outer material fused to the copper core. Some plugs include a coating or pad of precious metals such as iridium or Platinum to extend plug life. But as a general rule of thumb, all spark plugs utilize a copper core.

https://www.ngk.com/glossary/8/spark-plug/C

[hyperunion]

From NGK:
"Copper spark plugs" is a term mistakenly used for a standard or traditional spark plug. A standard spark plug traditionally uses a nickel-alloy outer material fused to the copper core. Some plugs include a coating or pad of precious metals such as iridium or Platinum to extend plug life. But as a general rule of thumb, all spark plugs utilize a copper core.

https://www.ngk.com/glossary/8/spark-plug/C

Great point and find!.. I guess ECS tuning calling the NGK iridium7 plugs iridium core is completely incorrect...

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[audrobotic]

Great point and find!.. I guess ECS tuning calling the NGK iridium7 plugs iridium core is completely incorrect...

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Thanks. Yes. The BKR7EIX Iridium Plug has a copper core. Per the NGK website product description the "Copper Core Aids in Heat Removal." https://www.ngk.com/product.aspx?zpid=9352