How far can I go without voiding warranty

[tjenne69]

Had my '13 for about a year and starting to get the itch to start modding. I've got about a year and a half on my CPO warranty, so I'd like to avoid voiding it for now. For now I am planning on going with the Chipwerke, but questioning value/risk of stage 2. They recommend intake and pulley if going stage 2. Clearly I have to pull the Chipwerke chip before taking it in, but would I have to pull other mods too? Conversely, is the any benefit of going stage 2 without the other mods?

What else can I get away with? Is it just ECU mods they are concerned with?

[Thurston]

you can go stage 2 and try the whole flashing back to stock game. I can confirm i'm apr stage 2 and flashed back to stock a few weeks ago and I know for a fact the dealer hooked up diagnostics and it passed as totally stock, that said, i had totally prepared for a voided warranty. don't let anyone on this thread tell you an intake will void your warranty, yes, by the letter of the law it could but they won't... trust me .. they won't. You have to get to a point of recognizing the two worst things that could go wrong outside of catastrophic engine failure which hasn't happened that i'm aware of, the only real concern is a mechatronics or sport diff equating to a big bill, beyond that the 3.0t is fairly predictable. also i'm stage 2 w/o intake and she pulls hard enough for me to be happy w/ the $ i spent.

Fat Kid's example is not apples to apples.

[eurotic]

don't let anyone on this thread tell you an intake will void your warranty, yes, by the letter of the law it could but they won't... trust me .. they won't.

I guess I am "that guy" because last year when I had my car in for routine maintenance my SA specifically told me do not do intake or sway bars but he encouraged me to do short shifter. I am not going to risk that.

[The Fat Kid]

you can go stage 2 and try the whole flashing back to stock game. I can confirm i'm apr stage 2 and flashed back to stock a few weeks ago and I know for a fact the dealer hooked up diagnostics and it passed as totally stock, that said, i had totally prepared for a voided warranty. don't let anyone on this thread tell you an intake will void your warranty, yes, by the letter of the law it could but they won't... trust me .. they won't. You have to get to a point of recognizing the two worst things that could go wrong outside of catastrophic engine failure which hasn't happened that i'm aware of, the only real concern is a mechatronics or sport diff equating to a big bill, beyond that the 3.0t is fairly predictable. also i'm stage 2 w/o intake and she pulls hard enough for me to be happy w/ the $ i spent.

^Trust him? "They could void your warranty... but they won't... I don't think they will... but they can... Trust me!"

Literally posted this afternoon:

TD1 Club?

Audi has absolutely TD1'd people for even an intake. You might have a "cool" SA, but the tech can still flag you.

The bottom line: Return the car to as stock as possible before bringing it to the dealer.

[darkstarghost]

An intake takes what 15 minutes to swap out? Why risk it? what if a tech Is having a shitty week and flags you who knows. But really if you tune or piggy back be prepared to except a td1. Plain and simple.

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[Thurston]

^Trust him? "They could void your warranty... but they won't... I don't think they will... but they can... Trust me!"

Literally posted this afternoon:



Audi has absolutely TD1'd people for even an intake. You might have a "cool" SA, but the tech can still flag you.

The bottom line: Return the car to as stock as possible before bringing it to the dealer.

That is not a td1 slip. Besides, looks like homey had extensive work done, brakes suspension and so forth . . . some may not be cut out for fast ball.

I said they could void you boss and i'm sure if you have a shit ton of shit done they may - go drive your porsche ;)

[Thurston]

I guess I am "that guy" because last year when I had my car in for routine maintenance my SA specifically told me do not do intake or sway bars but he encouraged me to do short shifter. I am not going to risk that.

i can't even make sense of what in the . . . it's a total shit show as you can see OP some say you can do this some say you can do that and we are talking about Service Advisors in this example! - - - as I said in my og post, yes technically they could void you which is exactly what I said, now, I don't think they will as evidenced by so many before us but sure technically they could and if you show up w/ the mods like whatever FATKID posted then yeah man you may be in for a tussle.

It's all about scanning the ecu, that's 9x's out of 10 where one is flagged td1. On occasion a visual could screw you but an intake takes 2 min to remove

[MVR 155]

Best bet is to have a talk with your SA and see what he/they consider enough mods to flag your car. Most instances only involve Audi reading your ECM and determining it has been flashed. If you have a flash tune then it's best you return to stock programming whether you have to visit your tuner or go back to stock if you're EPL or Unitronic.

There has been talk about "manual" TD1 flagging due to intakes or other aftermarket parts but the only positive is that if Audi detects aftermarket software on your car when it's plugged in.

[Thurston]

^Trust him? "They could void your warranty... but they won't... I don't think they will... but they can... Trust me!"
Audi has absolutely TD1'd people for even an intake. You might have a "cool" SA, but the tech can still flag you.

The bottom line: Return the car to as stock as possible before bringing it to the dealer.

who has audi absolutely td1'd over an intake fat kid? suspension, brakes, downpipe (which means tune on the s3), exhaust all combined sure maybe so but even then it has primarily been software provoked . . .

[The Fat Kid]

is that a td1 slip? looks like homey had extensive work done, breaks suspension and so forth . . . some may not be cut out for fast ball.

I said they could void you boss and i'm sure if you have a shit ton of shit done they may - go drive your porsche.

Okay read through Will's thread (well, chatterbox thread) he has a downpipes, brakes, suspension and more yeah i'm sure they did take a note of that and on top of that, i actually don't think he was td1'd.

i can't even make sense of what in the . . . it's a total shit show as you can see OP some say you can do this some say you can do that - - - as I said in my og post, yes technically they could void you which is exactly what I said, now, I don't think they will but sure technically they could and if you show up w/ the mods like whatever FATKID posted then yeah man you may be in for a tussle.

It's all about scanning the ecu, that's 9x's out of 10 where one is flagged td1. On occasion a visual could screw you but an intake takes 2 min to remove

who has audi absolutely td1'd over an intake fat kid? suspension, brakes, downpipe (which means tune on the s3), exhaust all combined sure maybe so but even then it has primarily been software provoked . . .

Wait, you don't actually know people have been manually flagged for intakes? I don't care enough to poke around for usernames, but yes, people have literally been flagged for almost every mod. Hell, people with aftermarket wheels have been denied warranty coverage of wheel bearings!

I am not warning the OP just to be Debbie Downer on mods, just making him aware of what can happen

Again, my advice: Return the car to as stock as possible before taking it to the dealer.

[MVR 155]

Wait, you don't actually know people have been manually flagged for intakes? I don't care enough to poke around for usernames, but yes, people have literally been flagged for almost every mod. Hell, people with aftermarket wheels have been denied warranty coverage of wheel bearings!

I am not warning the OP just to be Debbie Downer on mods, just making him aware of what can happen

Again, my advice: Return the car to as stock as possible before taking it to the dealer.

Hence my suggestion to consult your SA, don't admit mods but ask about them? Ask about modding your car with exhaust, intake or even a flash tune...... Feel them out. If they flinch at the most minor mod then be really careful, if they express tolerance then you know where you stand with them..... Obviously if you are flash tuned you will need to go back to stock as there is a very likely chance you will be hooked up to the Audi computer, if that happens and you are not flashed to stock, you are looking at TD1 and you are basically screwed.

[bhvrdr]

People have been td1 for an intake or even catback. The dealership has every right to do this...many may not do this but they absolutely can. Like other stated is less than 15 min of your time worth the potential hassle/risk. You literally loosen one clamp and pull it out.


Mike

[GeoJoe]

I got a TD1 and they put this sticker on for easy reference.



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jk

[MrFunk]

The whole TD1 thing is just so blown out of proportion:
1. Pay to play. Any mod small or large can affect a warranty claim depending on what the claim is and if it's deemed the mod affected the failed part.
2. If you are loosing sleep over it, if you are running around hiding mods from big bad Audi or would be financially burnt if you had to pay for a repair then don't mod.
3. TD1 is a flag - it does not void a warranty.
4. Build a relationship with your SA or mechanic if you plan on being a car enthusiast and modding your vehicle (if taking to a shop to install these parts).

[vwblackb5]

Bro, time to trade the car in.... 991 C2S's are so cheap even stay at home not svelte soccer dads can afford one


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[tjenne69]

Thanks guys. Kinda what I figured. Swapping the intake is no big deal. I guess I was more concerned with the pulley. But if they are going to get so touchy about just an intake or exhaust, the pulley would be likely to get their panties in a bunch.

I'll probably just do Stage I for now with the intake. Not looking to track the car, just wanted some quick updates to play with.

[Garro]

After your warranty is up find a good Mechanic as tell the dealer to to kiss your ass goodbye. The only thing I use the dealer for is to get rushed OEM parts. The only dealer I will go to with all my Mods is one that introduced me to it by offering me an APR Tune for too much. Went with Unitronics and living happily ever after.

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[doug97gxe]

i've had 3 trips to service .. all flash back to stock no TD1... Last trip they flashed me with the Cat Update so i know they connected the car to the computer

[tjenne69]

After your warranty is up find a good Mechanic as tell the dealer to to kiss your ass goodbye. The only thing I use the dealer for is to get rushed OEM parts. The only dealer I will go to with all my Mods is one that introduced me to it by offering me an APR Tune for too much. Went with Unitronics and living happily ever after.
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Pretty much only reason I go to the dealer now is that previous owner paid for Audi Care. May as well let them take care of some of the regular maintenance while I can.

[Garro]

That's cool but the previous owner got suckered. My former Audi mechanic works for $100 an hour compare to dealership $175. Audi care money would go way further at my mechanic plus no chance of being flagged TD1 which is a farce by itself.


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