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    Noticed my right front fender liner was on my tire. There are no missing clips so what the hell would cause the liner to fall on the tire?




    This is the left side, not rubbing but noticed a hole. Is it normal. It's not in the same place as the right side so that makes me think it's not the tires and wheels.

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    11.8 @ 116mph 2487DA on 93oct file Stage 2+

    THEN THEN THEN Rinse & Repeat!

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    definitely from the tires if you haven't changed anything with suspension. I wore through 2 sets of liners already lol
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    yea its your suspension. I have 3 inch holes in both sides.

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    Suspension is stock. Tires and wheels have been on since June. Just so odd that it's not in the same spot on both sides!

    Are they easy to change? If I am damaging them with a stock suspension can't image what happens lowered!
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    11.8 @ 116mph 2487DA on 93oct file Stage 2+

    THEN THEN THEN Rinse & Repeat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cspcrx View Post
    Suspension is stock. Tires and wheels have been on since June. Just so odd that it's not in the same spot on both sides!

    Are they easy to change? If I am damaging them with a stock suspension can't image what happens lowered!
    i saw that you were on stock suspension thats why i said it's your tires. i've noticed 255 or 265 tires on 9.5" wheels will rub from sharp turns.

    liners are easy to change, a few plastic screws and all clips. that's it
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    Looks like I need to order the right one for now. Nuts! Thanks guys

    Off to the ECS website I go
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    11.8 @ 116mph 2487DA on 93oct file Stage 2+

    THEN THEN THEN Rinse & Repeat!

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    Ordered new right side liner, figures the left side was on sale but not the right side.

    It is so bad now that its falling on the tire. I keep pushing it back up when I stop. I guess enough has warn away the structure integrity is now lost. May have to just pull it out unit the new one arrives.
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    11.8 @ 116mph 2487DA on 93oct file Stage 2+

    THEN THEN THEN Rinse & Repeat!

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    If you can order ones for the B8.5 if they fit.

    B8.5 switched to a plastic liner instead of the fabric based one on the B8s. I imagine it should be more resilient to damages like that.
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    Care to post the following for future fitment checks?

    Wheel Diameter:
    Wheel Offset:
    Wheel Width:
    Spacers Thickness:
    Tire Size:

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    Already ordered. Curious if our friends at ECS would pull a pair to compare. They are very flimsy, the B8, units for sure.

    Wheel Diameter: 19
    Wheel Offset: et45
    Wheel Width: 9.5
    Spacers Thickness: none
    Tire Size: 265-35 PSS non Porsche so they are the widest.

    It is just so odd they damage is not in the same place on both sides. My CRX has rub marks on the inner fenders from my 245x13s I run in autocross but its the same spot on both sides were it hits. Perhaps something jumped up and damaged it. It just happened because it was not this way a week ago.
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    11.8 @ 116mph 2487DA on 93oct file Stage 2+

    THEN THEN THEN Rinse & Repeat!

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    I have toasted 2 right side liners and my left is wearing now. Stock suspension.

    Wish I could prevent it from happening without changing wheels.
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    I've worn through 2 sets of liners on lowered suspension + sway bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cspcrx View Post
    Already ordered. Curious if our friends at ECS would pull a pair to compare. They are very flimsy, the B8, units for sure.
    forgot to mention i've worn through a set of OEM liners, then plastic liners i bought on eBay for like $30-40 each side
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    I wore through my liner on stock suspension with OEM rims and 255 tires.
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    This is crazy! Seems to be more common than I realized!

    ECS got back to me that they do not have a B8.5 right side in stock to compare it to. They sure look easily damaged now that I am examining mine.
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    11.8 @ 116mph 2487DA on 93oct file Stage 2+

    THEN THEN THEN Rinse & Repeat!

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    mine are worm on the passenger side, 100% stock, 255 tires. Are the fender liners cheap?

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    left is on sale right now for $109.55 normally $138.80
    Right is $121.58

    I also order a liner hardware kit since I do not know I will break removing the old one or if anything is missing. About $38 for that.

    Much more than I want to be shelling out every year. Liners should not be a wear item. I just got new wheels the beginning of June of this year. This is nuts!

    Jason with ECS said he will compare the B8.5 to a B8 when they get one in to see if the holes and everything else matches up. Hopefully they will and we can use those as they will probably hold up a bit better. This felt fiber crap is stupid and flimsy.
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    11.8 @ 116mph 2487DA on 93oct file Stage 2+

    THEN THEN THEN Rinse & Repeat!

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    last time i was at the dealer they noticed that my liner is wearing/failing.

    seems to be a much larger problem than i thought. I'll admit i looked at them as if they were crazy when they said i need to replace my wheel liner. I've never heard of such a thing unless your lowered or are running different offset wheels, and i'm stock wheels and stock suspension.

    @ECS - seems like a business opportunity to make a hard plastic one.
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    Crap wish I saw that before ordering
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    11.8 @ 116mph 2487DA on 93oct file Stage 2+

    THEN THEN THEN Rinse & Repeat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cspcrx View Post
    Crap wish I saw that before ordering
    I always look there first.
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    I will keep that one on my radar for next time, since the left side has damage already. Not sure how wide it will spread. Hoping it stays as is.
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    11.8 @ 116mph 2487DA on 93oct file Stage 2+

    THEN THEN THEN Rinse & Repeat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cspcrx View Post
    I will keep that one on my radar for next time, since the left side has damage already. Not sure how wide it will spread. Hoping it stays as is.
    gorilla tape FTW :D

    also, since i know i'll most likely wear through the liners in the near future, I won't spend over $100 each for them, even the ones I bought on eBay are the plastic ones, they still fit fine and do the same job.

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    I too have this same issue- stock suspension.

    ECS please come out with an aftermarket fix for AUDI's mess...

    Tried to get the dealer to warranty... they claim its from damage that I somehow am accountable for

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    Wish I could get plastic ones for the B8 seems they are all this felt crap! Still hoping that the 8.5s will fit the 8s. That will help right there!
    2012 Ibis P+ / DSG / Silk Napa / B&O / Sport Diff. / ADS lite / MMI & Nav / APR Stage 2+ & TCU Tuned / Ultra Charger / 184mm KI LIL BITCH / ECS Kohlefaser Luft-Technik Intake / AMS Alpha Cooler / ECS 2-Piece Rotors / Akebono Pads / VMR 803 19x9.5 ET45 265-35-19 PSS / ECS Drivetrain Bushing Inserts / CR-15

    11.8 @ 116mph 2487DA on 93oct file Stage 2+

    THEN THEN THEN Rinse & Repeat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cspcrx View Post
    Wish I could get plastic ones for the B8 seems they are all this felt crap! Still hoping that the 8.5s will fit the 8s. That will help right there!
    No joke, I am kind of surprised people are rubbing through the B8.5 ones. They are pretty thick plastic and I don't see how ECS could improve on them other than reinforcing the areas known to rub.

    I am not surprised at all that people are destroying the B8 ones. Those things are super flimsy, especially when wet!



    FWIW, back bumper on a B8 and B8.5 are slightly different, this may cause issues for the few screws that go there.

    Front bumpers are also different so there may be some slight modding needed to get a good fit.

    I think the cab section is the same so hopefully that will line up perfectly.

    Ultimately I think replacing both would be wise for those that are slammed. Maybe just the fronts for those who don't also rub in the back.
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    I hope the fronts are the same, I also hope Jason at ECS will come through on a comparison of the two.
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    11.8 @ 116mph 2487DA on 93oct file Stage 2+

    THEN THEN THEN Rinse & Repeat!

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    Did anyone ever confirm if the B8.5 plastic fender liners fit B8 models with the crappy felt liners?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiTFSI3o3 View Post
    gorilla tape FTW :D

    also, since i know i'll most likely wear through the liners in the near future, I won't spend over $100 each for them, even the ones I bought on eBay are the plastic ones, they still fit fine and do the same job.


    I tried using the one from Amazon for the right front fender on my 2012 but it did not fit well. The trailing edge left a gap from the fender which would have allowed crap to get inside the body void. And, the at the lower front, the liner did not line up with the clip and screw holes.

    Did these work for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Tuttle View Post
    Did anyone ever confirm if the B8.5 plastic fender liners fit B8 models with the crappy felt liners?
    Nothing from ECS yet. Replaced mine last Thursday with the fiber one.
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    11.8 @ 116mph 2487DA on 93oct file Stage 2+

    THEN THEN THEN Rinse & Repeat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Tuttle View Post
    I tried using the one from Amazon for the right front fender on my 2012 but it did not fit well. The trailing edge left a gap from the fender which would have allowed crap to get inside the body void. And, the at the lower front, the liner did not line up with the clip and screw holes.

    Did these work for you?
    these fit fine. all the holes lined up, got every single clip and plastic nut to fit like they should.
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    It would make sense since they are made for your car. I think Captain was trying B8.5s on his B8. I am still hopeful that ECS will come back with a comparison as promised.

    But Captains findings are not promising.
    2012 Ibis P+ / DSG / Silk Napa / B&O / Sport Diff. / ADS lite / MMI & Nav / APR Stage 2+ & TCU Tuned / Ultra Charger / 184mm KI LIL BITCH / ECS Kohlefaser Luft-Technik Intake / AMS Alpha Cooler / ECS 2-Piece Rotors / Akebono Pads / VMR 803 19x9.5 ET45 265-35-19 PSS / ECS Drivetrain Bushing Inserts / CR-15

    11.8 @ 116mph 2487DA on 93oct file Stage 2+

    THEN THEN THEN Rinse & Repeat!

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