Tempted by a 2013 RS5

**palmor** · 10-24-2016 03:07 PM

Hi everyone,
I currently have a 2011 S4 and have been thinking about trading it in for something else. I'm at the dealer (typing this on my phone lol) getting my car serviced and I saw a perfect looking 2013 RS5 on the lot they got in in a trade for an R8.

Obvious drawbacks is it only has 2 years of CPO Warranty left, purchased in 2012) and it has 50k miles. My S4 only has 72k miles so I'm gaining a ton there.

So I'm very familiar with the gotchas on the S4 (thermostat, water pump, DSG, sport diff) but what are they for the RS5?

Anything else coming from an s4 I should know about (other then that perfect exhaust sound

)?

John

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**Endi** · 10-24-2016 03:37 PM

it has 2 doors

**EHesh14** · 10-24-2016 04:05 PM

It's most definitely a beautiful upgrade, but not much tuning potential. I continually pulled on one back to back. The look on the poor mans face was pretty entertaining when a car 30k less than his kicked his arse.

**theedge111** · 10-24-2016 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by EHesh14

It's most definitely a beautiful upgrade, but not much tuning potential. I continually pulled on one back to back. The look on the poor mans face was pretty entertaining when a car 30k less than his kicked his arse.

Lol you S4 guys are precious

**superswiss** · 10-24-2016 04:13 PM

Probably the biggest issue with the RS5 that continues to be an issue for some owners are the OEM brakes. For some they are starting to vibrate after only a few thousand miles, but it seems the issue has surfaced only in later model years. I've heard that at one point rotors were getting damaged while shipped to the factory and that was the cause, but it still appears that some owners continue to have the issue. I believe there are also two kinds of OEM pads now, one is more aggressive. I've never had issues with the OEM brakes, but went aftermarket anyway for a better setup.

Other than that, I would say the RS5 on average requires more maintenance. Brakes don't last very long (20k-30k miles) and the car eats tires, but both of these obviously depend on how you drive it. FWIW, I'll go through a set of summer performance tires in about 12 months, but I take it to the canyons regularly. I know somebody who goes equally fast through their tires on their S4 taken to the canyons regularly, so it might just be my driving

.

My RS5 so far has spent more time in the shop than my previous cars. A lot of it were updates, though. I would find out what updates this 2013 had. There were some known parts that Audi redesigned later on. One of the issues with the 2013 is also that it has an old cellular modem, that only supports 2G on AT&T and T-Mobiles upgraded network. Some original owners such as myself got a free modem upgrade, but secondary owners appear to be out of luck.

**mufflerman** · 10-24-2016 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by theedge111

Lol you S4 guys are precious

Agreed, I love the S4, but not everyone measures a car by how it does in a drag race.

**namvar** · 10-24-2016 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by mufflerman

Agreed, I love the S4, but not everyone measures a car by how it does in a drag race.

eloquently put... Both quotes

**jdmnomore** · 10-24-2016 05:51 PM

Having switched from the S4 to RS5 myself id say maintenence wise the only draw backs are brakes and more expensive tires and oil changes. There is also the lack of forced induction for easy straight line speed. The positives are endless though and after owning two 4.2s the v6t just wasnt as exciting to me.

**Ace22** · 10-24-2016 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by theedge111

Lol you S4 guys are precious

Agreed, let's compare a modded S4 with a stock RS5

**adbender** · 10-24-2016 07:34 PM

Biggest cost on RS5 will be brakes and the DSG fluid changes. Audi Care is a very good idea to limit fluid change costs.

Otherwise..most reliable and enjoyable car I have owned.

**JamesRS5** · 10-24-2016 08:35 PM

Running costs will be higher in both fuel and servicing but mechanically they are pretty robust. Why not take it for a test drive and see what you think. Bare in mind the V8 has to be driven hard for it to feel anything like as fast as the numbers say, it makes all its numbers above where your S4 would have changed gear.

**namvar** · 10-24-2016 08:35 PM

Need brakes after 28K miles. Even with aftermarket parts it is pricey if you need the rotors replaced, which I do. Aside from that, I have only had to pay for audicare and for peace of mind I did get the Audi extended warranty to 100 K miles.

PS. if the RS5 is so inferior why do so many other model owners keep wanting to out do it?

**wildtouch83** · 10-25-2016 07:43 AM

I say do it. If you don't need the back seat your S4 offers, rock the RS5 :)

**NoMojo31** · 10-25-2016 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by mufflerman

Agreed, I love the S4, but not everyone measures a car by how it does in a drag race.

Agreed. We all measure a car's worth by the impression it gives of the size of our pecker. And for that, RS5 > S4 every single day.

**palmor** · 10-25-2016 07:59 AM

Hi Everyone,
Thanks for all the replies! I'll probably setup an appointment to go test drive it then decide if the short term warranty is worth it (for me).

Just give a little more context, here are the options etc (I had them print out the original sticker for me):

* Phantam Black
* MMI/Nav
* Titanium Package
* Sport Exhaust

Total price when new was $77,920

Thanks again!
John

**HazeMyth** · 10-25-2016 08:27 AM

As much as I do like the RS5 I'd never want to own it at my elevation. You people down at lower elevations are lucky, because the RS5 isn't a slow turd for you guys.

**palmor** · 10-25-2016 08:31 AM

Oh one more thing. Thanks for the info about the differences between the S4 and RS5 but I didn't want to turn this into one of "those" threads. There are a ton of threads about S5 vs RS5 that I'm getting that information from (and a lot of them turn into pretty amusing threads ;) ).

As we all know keeping these cars out of warranty can be pricey and while my S4 is almost paid off (bought it almost 4 years ago CPO) I'd have the RS5 for 2-3 years out of warranty while still paying payments. While I can afford that, I don't necessarily want to be paying for costly repairs while still paying a payment... hence my questions about maintenance costs and "gotchas".

For example, I found another thread that talked about bad oil temp sensors, water pumps (same as S4) and thermostats (again same as S4).

Anyway, thanks again!
John

**mufflerman** · 10-25-2016 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Mojo31

Agreed. We all measure a car's worth by the impression it gives of the size of our pecker. And for that, RS5 > S4 every single day.

Mmmm, honestly I don't feel my pecker has anything to do with my cars. I recognize there are some that see their cars as extensions to their anatomy, however, I would like to think a site like this focuses in on the true enthusiasts that leave their peckers to better served areas. In this area specifically you must be very secure as you own a Nissan Rogue.

**bknewtype** · 10-25-2016 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by mufflerman

Mmmm, honestly I don't feel my pecker has anything to do with my cars. I recognize there are some that see their cars as extensions to their anatomy, however, I would like to think a site like this focuses in on the true enthusiasts that leave their peckers to better served areas. In this area specifically you must be very secure as you own a Nissan Rogue.

jims pecker is the size of a black mamba, I heard.

**Mops@Nemesis** · 10-25-2016 09:05 AM

He tried to put it in my mouth. Couldn't even get it started

**bknewtype** · 10-25-2016 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Mops@SupremePower

He tried to put it in my mouth. Couldn't even get it started

needed one of these

**NoMojo31** · 10-25-2016 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by mufflerman

Mmmm, honestly I don't feel my pecker has anything to do with my cars. I recognize there are some that see their cars as extensions to their anatomy, however, I would like to think a site like this focuses in on the true enthusiasts that leave their peckers to better served areas. In this area specifically you must be very secure as you own a Nissan Rogue.

Since you apparently don't know me, you must not have recognized my tastlessness and attempt to throw out some humor.

And, just so you know, the Rogue was purchased for my daughter when she was 15, but I drove it as a bad weather car until she was 16 when I didn't want to drive my 911. It is slow, has a CVT, and is boring to look at, but it serves its purpose very well. She continues to drive that car while in college, but it is still titled in my name.

We also have a Mazda 3 that I have no hesitation in driving, and I am fully secure in myself driving it. We bought it for our son when he turned 16 about two years ago.

I had a '14 RS5 that I bought new, and found it to be a wonderful car that I really enjoyed. I highly recommend the RS5.

I ended up trading it after a year when I found a really well optioned Cayman GTS at the local dealership that I just couldn't pass up. I'm somewhat secure in myself while driving it although the Corvette guys make me feel inadequate.

The SQ5 is my wife's car, and she lets me drive it from time to time (well maybe not anymore), and I am also secure in myself while driving it but only if she is with me.

The "Mojo31 (at the dock)" (mentioned in my garage) is my boat, and as the name implies that is where I get my sexual prowess. Without it I wouldn't have a pecker or prowess, but that is beside the point. In case you don't follow that sorry sense of humor, it is a nod to Austin Powers.

Finally, I don't value a car by whether it "can pull" from another on a public street. Despite enthusiast forums, I find racing on the streets a very childish and dangerous thing to do that totally disregards the well being of others.

**Mops@Nemesis** · 10-25-2016 01:39 PM

Steve you misinterpreted that ;)

This feels like the old 5 section. I forgot how much fun we used to have.

Originally Posted by Mojo31

I am also secure in myself while driving it but only if she is with me.

F U Jimbro!

<3

**NoMojo31** · 10-25-2016 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Mops@SupremePower

Steve you misinterpreted that ;)

This feels like the old 5 section. I forgot how much fun we used to have.

F U Jimbro!

<3

Hey man, you know how it is. The hot blonde does more for my self-esteem than any car.

I don't need you to F me. I do that well enough on my own.

I didn't misinterpret it -

**palmor** · 10-25-2016 01:53 PM

What the hell did I start

Have an appt in 30min to take it for a drive and check out the service history. We'll see how it goes.

**NoMojo31** · 10-25-2016 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by palmor

What the hell did I start

Have an appt in 30min to take it for a drive and check out the service history. We'll see how it goes.

I'll bet you will love it.

Since you started this sh*t, you have to end it by buying a RS5!

**HazeMyth** · 10-25-2016 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by palmor

What the hell did I start

Have an appt in 30min to take it for a drive and check out the service history. We'll see how it goes.

You're going to hate it. get a Civic and dump 30k under the hood and toss on some lambo doors! #igotjokes

**theedge111** · 10-25-2016 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by HazeMyth

You're going to hate it. get a Civic and dump 30k under the hood and toss on some lambo doors! #igotjokes

Tuned S4 would still destroy it...

**HazeMyth** · 10-25-2016 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by theedge111

Tuned S4 would still destroy it...

Naw man, VTEC.

**palmor** · 10-25-2016 04:57 PM

Ok, that car is amazing (which you all knew). The downshifts while in sport mode made me smile :)

Of course then comes the "fun" part. This dealer doesn't negotiate their used cars so we start talking about my trade. The low balled me (expected) and I asked for the high end of the trade value expecting we'd meet in the middle someplace. They only offered another $1000 and wouldn't budge so I walked away. I'll let it sit for a couple of days and see what happens, I'm sure they'll have no problem selling it so I'll miss out but there will be more cars and maybe even a better deal.

**Beast** · 10-25-2016 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Mops@SupremePower

Steve you misinterpreted that ;)

This feels like the old 5 section. I forgot how much fun we used to have.

F U Jimbro!

<3

lol +1 to this great times.

**palmor** · 10-27-2016 04:53 PM

So how does this sound for a deal..

2013 RS5 with all but the blind spot monitoring package with 50k miles: $49k. 2 years of CPO warranty left. They are putting new brakes on it as we speak.
Trading in my 2011 S4 Prestige (DSG, Sport Diff, Nav, Blind Spot, Carbon interior) with 71k miles. Negotiating between $19 and $20 for the trade in (needs brakes and was in an rear-end accident).

Any drawbacks here? 50k miles is more then I would general consider but I don't have a long commute so I won't be putting many on.

Thoughts?

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**mcbuck** · 10-27-2016 06:42 PM

If she looks good and with two years of CPO left, I say go for it. The new brakes are worth some coin, but I would also ask for any service records and see if the diff, trans, and transfer case have been serviced. I'm going on close to a year with mine and the rev matching on downshifts still gives me a chub.

DOOOOOOOIIIIIIITTTTTTTT

**wildtouch83** · 10-27-2016 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by palmor

So how does this sound for a deal..

2013 RS5 with all but the blind spot monitoring package with 50k miles: $49k. 2 years of CPO warranty left. They are putting new brakes on it as we speak.
Trading in my 2011 S4 Prestige (DSG, Sport Diff, Nav, Blind Spot, Carbon interior) with 71k miles. Negotiating between $19 and $20 for the trade in (needs brakes and was in an rear-end accident).

Any drawbacks here? 50k miles is more then I would general consider but I don't have a long commute so I won't be putting many on.

Thoughts?

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Define "all but the blind spot monitoring"

Does it have the ceramic brakes?

Sounds like a good deal on a CPO RS5.

Does it have the updated module for Audi Connect by chance? My 13 doesn't and I'm still waiting for some to be available.

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**palmor** · 10-27-2016 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by wildtouch83

Define "all but the blind spot monitoring"

Does it have the ceramic brakes?

Sounds like a good deal on a CPO RS5.

Does it have the updated module for Audi Connect by chance? My 13 doesn't and I'm still waiting for some to be available.

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Good call, no ceramic breaks. I should have said the only option I wish it had (since I have it on my S4).

Options are:
Phantom Black
MMI Nav plus
Titanium Package
Sport Exhaust
Power rear sunshade
All weather Mats

MSRP was $77,920

Not sure about the upgraded module.

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**wildtouch83** · 10-27-2016 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by palmor

Good call, no ceramic breaks. I should have said the only option I wish it had (since I have it on my S4).

Options are:
Phantom Black
MMI Nav plus
Titanium Package
Sport Exhaust
Power rear sunshade
All weather Mats

MSRP was $77,920

Not sure about the upgraded module.

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Very cool that it has the power rear shade.

Are the seats all leather or does it have the alcantara centers?

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**palmor** · 10-27-2016 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by wildtouch83

Very cool that it has the power rear shade.

Are the seats all leather or does it have the alcantara centers?

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All Leather. Not a fan of the alcantara (at least in the S4) so that is a plus for me.

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**wildtouch83** · 10-27-2016 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by palmor

All Leather. Not a fan of the alcantara (at least in the S4) so that is a plus for me.

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Sounds like a good deal! Hope it works out for you.

In case you're curious, there were 336 phantom black RS5s sold in the US for MY13. 320 of those had black interior.

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**palmor** · 10-27-2016 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by wildtouch83

Sounds like a good deal! Hope it works out for you.

In case you're curious, there were 336 phantom black RS5s sold in the US for MY13. 320 of those had black interior.

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I have to ask, how do you know that!? :)

How many RS5 are sold per year total? I can't imagine it's a huge number.

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**wildtouch83** · 10-27-2016 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by palmor

I have to ask, how do you know that!? :)

How many RS5 are sold per year total? I can't imagine it's a huge number.

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I called Audi of America shortly after buying mine. 1,452 total sold for MY14 and 1,230 for MY14. I don't have the MY15 numbers though. Those were the only three years sold in the States.

Because I have a Phantom black with black interior, they were able to give me the break down on that color combo.

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