Woman killed by Takata airbag inflator in California Oct 20, 2016

[80sGuy]

When is Audi going to giddy up on the issue? 11th death so far from Takata Airbag recall.
http://fox61.com/2016/10/20/woman-ki...in-california/

[mscottdemarco]

I recieved a recall letter about this already. Has anyone else?

[drmonkey]

I recieved a recall letter about this already. Has anyone else?

Yep, there's a thread about people who have received it and have asked Audi when it's going to be fixed but all we get is basically "when we get to it" from them.

[Luccatavares]

Wow! My local dealer said 6months, been 3

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[1killera4]

I got the letter..called the stealership..4 months

[vvenom800tt]

I was supposed to get mine done this month by my dealer but they said that BMW had their recalls done but they had problems with them so Takata has to redo the BMW ones. SO Audi said "were gonna wait until the problem is fixed before getting them for our costumers"

I work for Acura and ive installed hundreds of these fucking inflators. They suck balls guys, they really do, theyll come out eventually. Just be patient, you have no idea how many recalls have been done. Just Honda/Acura alone are in the millions, and there are over 10 manufactureres that are affected

[KJack]

Takata is on the brink of bankruptcy. I wonder how this issue will be fully resolved and by whom. Good opportunity for another airbag manufacturer to step up and make a better product.

[Chris@EPL]

I talked to AoA last week and they are trying to get another vendor to make the airbag fix.

[miA4]

Audi essentially sent out the recall notice in order to cover themselves from litigation stating that their customers were not informed of the potential risk of the inflators rupturing and killing someone. It's nice to know that my airbag can possibly kill my passenger. Thanks to Audi for informing me but telling me that the fix is about 9 months away...

[vvenom800tt]

I think ive seen twr stamped on some airbags.

Maybe they are second in line

[vvenom800tt]

The fix isnt up to them you idiot. Its from the airbag manufacturer. It has nothing to do with audi.

Its all Takatas responsibility to remanufacture the airbag inflators safely and release them. Theyre having to make millions of new ones, its not easy to do that over night.

[Okedokey]

Um no, the manufacturer is responsible, and they pass on that liability.

[vvenom800tt]

No they are not!!!

Takata make the airbag inflators. Its their inflators that are going bad, and it has nothing to do with what car it goes in. Nothing at all !!

I replace these fucking things for a living, and its not Acuras fault that the inflators are not made properly. When they are crash tested in sterile conditions, there were no faults found with the inflators, so they passed the crash tests and everyone were happy.

Now years later, the inflators are actually having internal failures due to high heat and humidity conditions over time. (Thats why the southern states are the ones where the recall was released first!)


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[80sGuy]

Most customers don't care. They spent $30, $40, $60, $80K and if there is a recall of any kind they'd expect the company that sold them the car to take care of the issue promptly, consequently if there is bodily injury or death involved, the car manufacturer would most likely be held liable, not the vendor. So yeah, giddy up Audi. Get on Takata's case!

[Okedokey]

The responsibility lies with the car manufacturer. Try not to be a back-yard lawyer mate.

In Canada, vehicle manufacturers are responsible for carrying out notice of defect (recall) campaigns, not parts suppliers, such as Takata.

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/motorvehicle...ions-1433.html

In USA

...a manufacturer has reasonably met its obligation to notify and/or remedy a safety defect or noncompliance with a Federal motor vehicle safety standard .

Federal law requires vehicle manufacturers to provide consumers with a recall remedy free of charge and within a reasonable amount of time.

Motor Vehicle Safety Defects and Recalls Booklet (USA)

In Australia

...car companies have a legal duty to protect their customers from harm and they should be doing all they can to replace potentially defective airbags as a matter of priority. Car manufacturers are responsible for ensuring compliance with Australia’s vehicle safety standards and are required to conduct appropriate tests and submit evidence to demonstrate this compliance.

From Honda

Honda warns dealerships of liability as it widens airbag recall

http://www.autonews.com/article/2016...-airbag-recall


and many many more

[miA4]

Geezus things escalated quickly in here.

[Okedokey]

I didn't escalate anything, but yeah you're right.

[canadianA4B7]

Any one else here more on that truck load of the air bags that blew that house off the planet?? I read a article about a week after that stated the bags in that truck were all "new replacement" being sent for more analysis. Unfortunately that driver seems to have fallen asleep and well I'm sure you all know what happened.

Anyone else read about this or was it media hog wash I'd assume takata had come up with in order to cover the old company butt cheeks?

It's terrible this is happening. My condolences go out to the families of those who have been involved. They may never read these words. But I'll post as its how I feel.

Few years ago I smucked an A4 and I could not believe how much material was inside the car (white powdery), my eyes were on fire from the stuff. I know not anything as severe but was totally alarming experience. Makes me think every time I start a car.

[vvenom800tt]

Its the manufacturers responsibility to inform their custumers of the recall obviosuly. But they can't do anything about the available of inflators. They only get them once takata has made new revised versions and deemed them safe to release to the public.

Audi can bitch and moan all they want about inflators not being released, but at the end of the day its the inflator manufacturers responsibility to get the parts made and shipped.

Audi cant hurry that process no matter what their costmers are whining about.

Thats what i meant by Audi not being responsible for inflators not being available.

[pezgoon]

I guess me and my mother have been lucky? Ours are both 2/??/05 like ten or twelve days apart lol, neither of us have gotten a letter or have our vins show up on audis vin checker, or the governments, maybe ours were pre takata

Any ways to check? (Other than vin, I mean if I look at it lol)


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[WewannaB7]

Is there any way to deactivate the pass side airbag in the meantime? I think with the b8, you can just go into the glove box and turn it off with your key.

[aluthman]

Maybe disconnect the connector under the seat? If the bladder is disconnected, I believe the passenger airbag is disabled.

[vvenom800tt]

Ir pull you're glove box and disconnect the actual airbag inflator. But im sure youll get a CEL to stare at

[SirWill]

I got a letter for my Audi and my VW. My VW letter came over a year ago, both have the same statement about "no parts currently available"

[Okedokey]

Given that this recall doesn't seem to apply to Australian made A4s, it could be possible that you could install airbags from Aussie cars?

[tloft4]

any way to tell if your car could be one affected? bought mine used so i dont expect mail from audi...

previous car was a family car, avalon limited, that had lots of "practice" with every airbag they offer in it and never had one go off...

[danbfree]

To be clear, those airbags in those early 2000's Honda for some reason have a MUCH higher chance of explosion, over 50% chance according to the other article linked at this one, while the others have less than 1% chance, which should include the passenger airbags in our B7's... Sadly, that was a few months ago Honda said to stop driving those cars but many people just can't stop driving their only car or never got word.

[konarider94]

any way to tell if your car could be one affected? bought mine used so i dont expect mail from audi...

previous car was a family car, avalon limited, that had lots of "practice" with every airbag they offer in it and never had one go off...

https://www.audiusa.com/about/takata.html

You can enter your VIN on that website.

[nizmosx]

i got the recall and called audi to make appointment, they said they are not ready to do them yet and that i will get a call when they are. i believe i was told 6 months from when i called which was 2-3 months prior.

[B7TitaniumA4]

i got the recall and called audi to make appointment, they said they are not ready to do them yet and that i will get a call when they are. i believe i was told 6 months from when i called which was 2-3 months prior.

Both of my cars are affected by this recall.

2008 A4 Ti
2007 Toyota Yaris Hatch

no resolution for either at this time

[p0isin]

Didn't get a letter from Audi, but just checked my VIN and my car is included in the recall. 2008 A4.

My wife's car (2006 Subaru legacy) is also within scope of the recall. I guess we are expected to never drive together....

[mixtery]

Funny I checked a few months ago and it seemed it was just the cabriolet models. Now it's my A4 avant. Assume all b7 now? No letter from Audi. Hopefully we Will get bags made by Autoliv.

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[mtroxel]

So is it only the pass side air bag in our cars? My VIN says I'm OK, but I also bought a different Audi steering wheel with a different SW air bag. My SW air bag is a TRW...are all driver's side air bags OK on our cars or do I need to track down the air bag I bought for my new steering wheel.

[WewannaB7]

They should at least bring these cars in to disable the pass airbag and prevent the CEL in the time being if there is no ETA on the replacements coming in. You can't expect people not to let anyone sit in the pass seat forever.

[WtA4WtQ5]

We traded in our B7 Cab, there was a $2000 incentive for the air bags. The car is still parked at the dealer since July, they can use but can not sell it. A shame the car was always garaged and now sits outside full time. Makes us sad when we think about it. Enjoying the new one though. Our Q5 has the air bag recall also with no parts available yet. Audi says they never had an injury or fatality and we are better off leaving the system on.

[menace1930]

I just checked my VIN online and this is what the Audi site says.

Takata Passenger Side Airbag
REPAIR NOT YET AVAILABLE



START DATE
May 27, 2016

AUDI ACTION CODE
69O2

DESCRIPTION

Takata has reported that the passenger frontal airbag inflator could potentially rupture (due to propellant degradation occurring after long-term exposure to absolute high humidity and temperature cycling) if the vehicle is involved in a crash where the frontal airbags are designed to deploy. In the event of an inflator rupture, in very rare cases metal fragments could pass through the airbag cushion material, which may result in serious injury or death to vehicle occupants. Audi recommends avoiding use of the front passenger seat whenever possible until the recall repair has been performed.


NHTSA RECALL NUMBER
16V382

REMEDY

Repair solution pending.

[pezgoon]

Is there any way to deactivate the pass side airbag in the meantime? I think with the b8, you can just go into the glove box and turn it off with your key.

In Vag-Com you can add the bit that allows you to turn it off (the airbag) It sounded like it is standard out in the EU but an option here as when I read through my FSM there is a section about adding it in step by step, I wonder what happens if you "turn on" the feature without the key switch, maybe itll just leave it off?

Maybe disconnect the connector under the seat? If the bladder is disconnected, I believe the passenger airbag is disabled.

Ir pull you're glove box and disconnect the actual airbag inflator. But im sure youll get a CEL to stare at

Not 100% positive about these cars but any other car I've ever owned any SRS fault disables the entire system, meaning all the airbags no matter what the fault is. If you get into an accident with an SRS fault or its found out that it had been purposely disabled by you I'm pretty sure your insurance will instantly deny your coverage for the simple fact that an SRS fault is always deemed to require "immediate remediation" without continuing to drive the car, *shrug* just sayin

I just checked my VIN online and this is what the Audi site says.

Takata Passenger Side Airbag
REPAIR NOT YET AVAILABLE



START DATE
May 27, 2016

AUDI ACTION CODE
69O2

DESCRIPTION

Takata has reported that the passenger frontal airbag inflator could potentially rupture (due to propellant degradation occurring after long-term exposure to absolute high humidity and temperature cycling) if the vehicle is involved in a crash where the frontal airbags are designed to deploy. In the event of an inflator rupture, in very rare cases metal fragments could pass through the airbag cushion material, which may result in serious injury or death to vehicle occupants. Audi recommends avoiding use of the front passenger seat whenever possible until the recall repair has been performed.


NHTSA RECALL NUMBER
16V382

REMEDY

Repair solution pending.

What year?

Does anyone have an earliest build date (February 2005) that has gotten a recall notice? My mothers and mine were built 10 days apart in February and neither of us have anything listed on the vin checks but I want to know if I should be disabling my airbag anyways, I always have someone in my passenger seat

[pezgoon]

any way to tell if your car could be one affected? bought mine used so i dont expect mail from audi...

previous car was a family car, avalon limited, that had lots of "practice" with every airbag they offer in it and never had one go off...

If you go on Audi's website, under the Owner section you can fill out your information and that logs you into their system as the new owner of the car

[menace1930]

Mine is a 2006

[pezgoon]

Hmm, I've read people with 2005.5 getting it but I think theirs were later in the year, I wonder if I lucked out?


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