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    2005.5 A4 2.0t Snapped timing Belt

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    Hi guys, I have a 2005.5 a4 2.0t. It had 180k miles on it but it was still tight. Along time ago my cam follower went and I ruin the cam and HPFP. That was around 100k and I ve driven 80k with no turbo or power so they've been pretty easy miles on the car.

    I was at a stop light at idle and it died. I went to go turn it back on and it spun almost like starter was bad. I went and check the timing belt inspection flap and yep I snapped it.

    Any ways, I have found a junk yard with 2006 a4 2.0t fsi near me that had a rear crash and was totalled with 60k. They will let me go pull the head myself and anything else I can carry out for $65 bucks. My goal is to go rip the head off the car and along with injectors, both cams, HPFP, and the turbo and wastegate. But question is most importantly I need the head, can I get it out with removing the front bumper, can I disassemble from the top, cut the timing belt, and pull everything off.

    Could someone please help me with instructions, what to look out for, possible ways to damage it. I'd like to keep the fuel and injectors attached to the head as well as the pcv attached since mine were stripped out.

    Please let know if there is anyway I can look. Since I'm basically ripping off the head I don't care if I have to cut or do it in "the reverse way" of installing it.

    Thank you so much in advance!!

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    The injectors is a hit or miss. Mine pulled out with the manifold

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    It's possible if you aren't opposed to cutting the timing belt and maybe bending the coolant return line from the turbo. It probably won't be fun though.
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    Do you know of a manual that you've used if I just rip it off and cut the timing belt(I'm not opposed I would buy a new gasket, timing belt, and bolt kit). Will the head come off relatively easy, what tools would I need to bring with me? If I have to Dirch the turbo I will I've just been without my turbo for so long that I'm not sure if it works still or if I did any damage. I went quite a few miles with an oil change and it got kind of sludgy. I had the compression tested about month before it snapped and it was near perfect especially with the mileage that I decided I was going to rebuild it.

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    The turbo and intake manifold are removable without taking the front of the car apart. You're only minutes from pulling the head after that. You'll need quite a wide selection of tools, but at a minimum, metric 1/4" and 3/8" drive sockets (both standard and deep well), metric wrenches, torx bits, triple square bits, ratchets, extensions, allen wrenches and allen sockets (long reach is helpful), screw drivers, and a poly drive bit for the head bolts. That's just going off memory.
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    So you drove with a bad cam follower and hpfp for 80k and never did your timing belt? maybe you should have someone that has done this before.

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    I eventually replaced cam follower and HPFP after it happened but I already had some damage to the cam. My cam follower has been replaced over and over. I also checked the timing belt periodically and was in good visual condition when it snapped. I'm in outside sales so this car was only used for work. I've had two built 02 S4s and have done head changes on them. I just don't want to get half way into tearing the head off when I realize I don't have the correct tools and I don't feel like removing the bumper.

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    Dude sell it. Seriously, cannot be bothered to remove the bumper, there is nothing for you with Audis then..
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    Sometimes pulling the bumper isn't possible though. We don't know this guys wrenching situation. He could be in an apartment complex where you can't work on your cars. Being able to leave the bumper on means you can close the hood and nobody is the wiser.

    Also, given your engine gave up at idle, it's possible there isn't any head damage.

    I would replace just the belt and give it a compression test. Who knows, you might get lucky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okedokey View Post
    Dude sell it. Seriously, cannot be bothered to remove the bumper, there is nothing for you with Audis then..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timrcaron View Post
    I eventually replaced cam follower and HPFP after it happened but I already had some damage to the cam. My cam follower has been replaced over and over. I also checked the timing belt periodically and was in good visual condition when it snapped. I'm in outside sales so this car was only used for work. I've had two built 02 S4s and have done head changes on them. I just don't want to get half way into tearing the head off when I realize I don't have the correct tools and I don't feel like removing the bumper.
    ummm tbelts do not get a visual inspection if they are good. It gets done by mileage or something is hitting the belt. If its used for work then you have do all preventive maintenance. If you want to keep a4 then i suggest always being point of preventive maintenance these cars are sensitive to it. Also by the factory manual and read it over and over again. There are some DIY's here but make sure you take it with a gain of salt.

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    Your own words:

    Along time ago my cam follower went and I ruin the cam and HPFP. That was around 100k and I ve driven 80k with no turbo or power so they've been pretty easy miles on the car.

    My question:

    Have you decided and/or concluded that doing maintenance as scheduled and properly is cheaper in the long right than waiting for catastrophic issues to happen, especially on an Audi?

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    NO. Just looking to cobble it together.

    What you should do then is sell the car to someone that has figured out the above and go buy a Civic or Elantra.

    YES. I'm all growed up now.

    Excellent. You'll find this site to have tons of valuable information, many helpful people, but not much compassion or tolerance for the lazy or those unwilling to learn or try.


    Background on me: I trusted the sellor of my 2005.5 A4 sedan that the TB was changed. It snapped on me one morning. I asked for information, got tools, and got it fixed with the help of a member on here. With my new 2007 Avant, I changed out the TB, water pump, rollers, etc. @ 85k miles instead of waiting. I check my cam follower regularly, plugs, filters, etc. and she's rock-solid reliable. I made a mistake, but got my hands dirty, fixed her up, and am a better owner for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papadelogan View Post
    Your own words:

    Along time ago my cam follower went and I ruin the cam and HPFP. That was around 100k and I ve driven 80k with no turbo or power so they've been pretty easy miles on the car.

    My question:

    Have you decided and/or concluded that doing maintenance as scheduled and properly is cheaper in the long right than waiting for catastrophic issues to happen, especially on an Audi?

    Answers:

    NO. Just looking to cobble it together.

    What you should do then is sell the car to someone that has figured out the above and go buy a Civic or Elantra.

    YES. I'm all growed up now.

    Excellent. You'll find this site to have tons of valuable information, many helpful people, but not much compassion or tolerance for the lazy or those unwilling to learn or try.


    Background on me: I trusted the sellor of my 2005.5 A4 sedan that the TB was changed. It snapped on me one morning. I asked for information, got tools, and got it fixed with the help of a member on here. With my new 2007 Avant, I changed out the TB, water pump, rollers, etc. @ 85k miles instead of waiting. I check my cam follower regularly, plugs, filters, etc. and she's rock-solid reliable. I made a mistake, but got my hands dirty, fixed her up, and am a better owner for it.

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    X2. I changed my timing belt at 54k miles after buying the car with undiscovered cam failure. I didn't trust any supposed maintenance record that did or did not exist. Not did I trust that the OP paid any attention or gave any care to the car whatsoever during the handful of years he owned it before me, and ran it into the ground.

    Visually it was perfect, under the surface it had and still has some major issues.
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    when i swapped my motor i wasnt going to change the TBelt because the it looked new, but i was like hell with it turns out it had plastic blades and they were cracked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papadelogan View Post
    Your own words:

    Along time ago my cam follower went and I ruin the cam and HPFP. That was around 100k and I ve driven 80k with no turbo or power so they've been pretty easy miles on the car.

    My question:

    Have you decided and/or concluded that doing maintenance as scheduled and properly is cheaper in the long right than waiting for catastrophic issues to happen, especially on an Audi?

    Answers:

    NO. Just looking to cobble it together.

    What you should do then is sell the car to someone that has figured out the above and go buy a Civic or Elantra.

    YES. I'm all growed up now.

    Excellent. You'll find this site to have tons of valuable information, many helpful people, but not much compassion or tolerance for the lazy or those unwilling to learn or try.


    Background on me: I trusted the sellor of my 2005.5 A4 sedan that the TB was changed. It snapped on me one morning. I asked for information, got tools, and got it fixed with the help of a member on here. With my new 2007 Avant, I changed out the TB, water pump, rollers, etc. @ 85k miles instead of waiting. I check my cam follower regularly, plugs, filters, etc. and she's rock-solid reliable. I made a mistake, but got my hands dirty, fixed her up, and am a better owner for it.

    We all make mistakes. It's how you move forward after making them that really matters.
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    I second the sell it part. Honestly you're just going to end up back here with more problems down the line because you do not want to do things properly. I am not trying to be a dick but in all honesty you're better off in the long run to get rid of it and get something easier to fix/more cost efficient because its going to kill your wallet at the end of the day.

    That being said.. heads and everything you can carry for $65 is a hell of a deal. Grab that turbo and HPFP for sure because you can sell it if anything.

    Either way good luck but like I said if you just tape up wounds on these cars they will turn into a money pit and you will end up spending way more money than doing it right the first time around.
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    Seriously though- it's so easy to remove the upper part of the timing cover, and inspect the belt. It's just 2 T30 torx bolts, so why would you not check it if you have doubts that the previous owner changed it?

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