No boost and startup issue with this 2011 Audi A4

[eclipse1]

I just got a 2011 A4. It has check engine light on and after scanning with a reader at OReilly, I got two error codes. P0299 and P0016. The two major issues with this car are:

Issue 1: when starting, it hesitates. Takes extra few seconds to start. (probably around 4-5 seconds of cranking to start the car)

Issue 2: when I put it on drive, car is moving but I step on the gas but neither rpm goes up, nor the car picks up speed. It's very sluggish and picks up speed at a very slow rate but eventually it will speed and go.

I'm not sure what is going on with this car mechanically but could you please give me some suggestions if I'm looking at some serious repairs? After doing some reading, sounds like something to do with the turbo? The other code relates to timing chain?

Thanks.

[Captain Amazing]

Your timing chain tensioner has failed. Do not drive the car anymore as you can cause more damage. Sorry to say, but it's going to be expensive to fix it. How many miles are on your car? If you search for timing chain tensioner in search you will find everything you need.

[ducati]

No car owner wants to see the P0016 code...

[eclipse1]

THAT SOB sold me a broken car! How expensive is this repair? This car has only 76K miles. I plan to take it to a shop tomorrow.

[TurboNate]

Didn't you already ask this


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[pkny]

Since your car is under 80k miles. You may want to talk to your dealership to see if they would negotiate something with you. Like may change out the piston and rings and changing out the tensioner and chain. While hoping nothing else is damaged so far.

[eclipse1]

You think piston is gone too? I just drove the car about 100 miles this weekend (to get it home).

[Lambda13]

IDK about your state but there are lemon laws that would allow you to return the car for a full refund in most states. Might want to look at that as well.

[ak11214]

You didn't do a test drive before purchasing it? Hopefully its not the tension and its something cheaper. Tension is around $1.5-2k. But if your car have oil consumption issue, audi will change your piston for free and change your tension for only $500-600 parts only. Or get really lucky as some member got the tension changed for free as well.

[eclipse1]

This car has a salvage title. I just bought from a guy who had it for 2 years after it was declared salvage. It had some front bumper and hood damage. I called the local Audi dealership and they said I should call Audi customer service. What would be the best way to approach this?

[bakedziti]

This car has a salvage title. I just bought from a guy who had it for 2 years after it was declared salvage. It had some front bumper and hood damage. I called the local Audi dealership and they said I should call Audi customer service. What would be the best way to approach this?

Its one thing if the timing went on its own, but an entirely different situation if the vehicle was in an accident; which can also cause timing issues depending on the force of the impact. I have no clue what Audi's view on salvage titles is, nor how they would react, but what was the car salvaged for?

[eclipse1]

I did a test drive and he told me that it's a bit sluggish at the beginning but starts driving fine on higher gears. I knew I had to do some repair but didn't realize it would be this costly. How do we determine if this has oil consumption issue? I don't plan on driving the car and will have it towed to the dealership once I talk to customer service.

[eclipse1]

It got into an accident but only had some front bumper and hood damage which was replaced. There were no frame damage is what I was told.

[ak11214]

It got into an accident but only had some front bumper and hood damage which was replaced. There were no frame damage is what I was told.

If the car is salvage then the damage must be pretty significant. I'm not sure how dealership treat salvage title as well. Keep us posted. Hopefully you paid a good price to offset the possible repair cost.

[eclipse1]

Talked to Audi and they said the oil consumption is covered up to 80K miles but didn't say anything about the tensioner. Asked that I should see the local dealer about the oil consumption and U-18. When I talked to the local dealer, they asked if I have a low oil warning, which I don't at this point. I don't even know if this car had the oil consumption issue. Will they take care of the tensioner (even if I have to pay for parts)? Are the two issues related (oil consumption and tensioner failing)?

[Captain Amazing]

If you are already throwing the p0016 code that means you could have more damage to your car. There could also be bent valves, pistons, cylinder heads and walls among other damaged components. Parts to fix that are 2k in itself plus the cost of labor which can get really expensive.

http://shopdap.com/2-0t-vw-and-audi-...oner-problems/

[eclipse1]

Captain Amazing, with all that damage, the car would still be running?

[B8_Dude97]

Captain Amazing, with all that damage, the car would still be running?

It'd run but run rough especially if the timing is off and it's been off a tooth for much amount of time


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[eclipse1]

So driving it to the dealer can cause more damage? should I get it towed?

[ducati]

So driving it to the dealer can cause more damage? should I get it towed?

Tow it but it may be too late to prevent serious damage.Did you contact the original owner or was a auction purchase?Didn't you test drive it or had your mechanic check it out?

[eclipse1]

Test drove the car and as I mentioned, it hesitates to start and hesitates to pickup sped on the first or second gear; but after that it runs fine. The previous owner is playing dumb and says he hardly drove the car and the codes popped up sometime this year.

[ak11214]

Test drove the car and as I mentioned, it hesitates to start and hesitates to pickup sped on the first or second gear; but after that it runs fine. The previous owner is playing dumb and says he hardly drove the car and the codes popped up sometime this year.

What was the mileage and how much did you pay for it?

[eclipse1]

Took the car to a dealer this morning.. they're saying the Turbo has failed (wastegate has issues but whole turbo has to be replaced as they can't fix part of it!). Timing tensioner failed, chain moved a few tooth so timing is off. They'll call AoA to see what all they can do with the timing part.. few other things going on that will be on the report.

I did some basic work on a few of my cars and have some basic skills. Is there a DIY for the turbo charger? How involved is this task?

[van462]

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...4-Installation This writeup is for a K04 install but it should suite your needs.

[eclipse1]

Not possible to rebuild this existing turbo?

[van462]

The part that wears is a bronze bushing in the housing. The wastegate arm passes thru this bushing, as it wears it allows slop to eventually the wastegate no longer can clamp shut. I have shortened the wastegate actuator rod and it has gotten me another 3 years and counting of life. I suppose the weld on the arm could be ground off, the bushing replaced (machined) and then reweld the arm. Unless you are doing this yourself or have decent access to a machine shop (bushing may be a standard size) it will not be economically feasible. See http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...lapper-(P0299) Replacement is a better option but like I said this has held up for 3 years and going.

[eclipse1]

van462,
I think replacing the turbo is a better option for me.. great to see you used a very ingenious method to tackle this issue.

I've searched ebay but nothing good there. Will be looking for a used one. If I don't replace the turbo soon, am I causing other issues to the car?

Thanks.

[eclipse1]

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ighlight=turbo

Will this fit my 2011 B8?