H&R + Bilstein vs H&R Coilovers

[fallingreason]

I currently have bilstein sports with stock sport springs, shocks are 60k old about. They still feel plenty firm and I'm wanting better handing so debating whether to go with H&R sport springs with the bilsteins or just H&R coilovers as a complete setup. These are the two options I am considering because they are monotube.

Any opinions? Do H&R springs handle pretty good with bilsteins vs sport springs or do I need coils for this?
Comfort of spring/shock vs coilovers?
I don't need height adjustability as my wheels will stay stock and don't plan on ever adjusting ride height.
I have 21mm rear bar with stock end links and still feel like there is a ton of body roll.

Also, does anyone know if bilstein monotubes a have fade over the miles? Mine still feel super firm vs my old sport shocks and I've heard monotubes don't fade, they just fail all at once if they go.

[jacobsen]

I currently have bilstein sports with stock sport springs, shocks are 60k old about. They still feel plenty firm and I'm wanting better handing so debating whether to go with H&R sport springs with the bilsteins or just H&R coilovers as a complete setup. These are the two options I am considering because they are monotube.

Any opinions? Do H&R springs handle pretty good with bilsteins vs sport springs or do I need coils for this?
Comfort of spring/shock vs coilovers?
I don't need height adjustability as my wheels will stay stock and don't plan on ever adjusting ride height.
I have 21mm rear bar with stock end links and still feel like there is a ton of body roll.

Also, does anyone know if bilstein monotubes a have fade over the miles? Mine still feel super firm vs my old sport shocks and I've heard monotubes don't fade, they just fail all at once if they go.

I've got the bilstein b6 shocks for about 6k miles now with 034 street density control arms, Hotchkiss sway bars and lemferter sway links. The ride was stiff at first but now I'm calling it harsh. It's not luxurious. They dont handle continuous rough patches well, you Rumble over them. But the handling is good. I did not replace the stock Springs and mine had about 145k on them. I've pretty much got the same question you have. I'm wondering if switching Springs would relieve some of the harshness. They're pretty good over large speed mounds, divots and while handling on curvy roads or highway speeds. You're much more connected to the road condition with the Bilstein B6. You feel it.

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[fallingreason]

Wow you think the B6 are harsh huh? I thought the B8 with sport springs was pretty mild.

[jacobsen]

Wow you think the B6 are harsh huh? I thought the B8 with sport springs was pretty mild.

The b6 has a longer piston for more travel, the b8 has a shorter piston for more sporty response. Wondering about the springs, mine are stock black springs.

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