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[XLR8 Craig]

Excelerate Performance - North American Distributor for MSS Kits!




MSS KITS designs and brings to market a range of Premium Fully Adjustable Performance Spring kit products for prestige German
sports cars marketed under the MSS Spring Kits brand. MSS spring kits products replaces the factory (OE) parts yet retains the passive or
active dampers – such as the Audi MagneRide™, VW ACC/DCC™, BMW EDC™ or Porsche PASM/S™.

We are often asked why MSS products cost more than a set of one-time lowering springs from well established brands.
The simple answer here is that our products enable for enhanced ride comfort and performance handling for streets or track
use whilst retaining the factory shock absorbers. Bonus features are an easy cost effective upgrade path. It is important to
understand that these benefits are all often regarded as not possible from a single product let alone "just a set of springs".

From firsthand experience of the established brands products for the VW Golf MK7 R/GTi; Audi S3/RS3 have caused a
few rubbing, bottoming out, harsh ride issues that many of you can attest to I am sure. MSS has engineered these issues
out of the product with extended road tests (real roads; real every day use not computer aided simulations).
The upside for you so that, you get a 'fit & forget' product that works as intended. We back all that up with a Lifetime Warranty - no quibbles/no fuss

Just a simple plain replacement for new if our product fails


Key benefits MSS products:

By believing in the principle of keeping a car looking as it did when leaving the factory.
It is our single guiding focus and we make the following five promises to our customers of the MSS Spring Kits products:

- Available in a choice of Streets, Sports or Track versions.
- Each product is designed to be a direct replacement for the factory (OE) part and requires no modifications.
- Our products will not introduce Noise, Vibration and Harshness (NVH) nor Check Engine Light (CEL) errors.
- Each kit is shipped with a Lifetime Warranty underlining the confidence we place in our products.
- Reduced dive on braking or reduced squatting on acceleration
- Keep the original factory dampers
- Gain advanced car setup comparable to aftermarket premium Coilover kits
- Improved ride comfort compared to the original factory suspension setup
- Retain the ‘in-dash’ functionality to change the suspension settings for cars equipped with electronic dampers
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Product fitments
– Audi S3/RS3 8V
– Audi A3/Cabriolet
– VW Golf MK7 R
– VW Golf MK7 GTi












What kind of drop should I expect?

Audi Kits are naturally lower than the Golf/Gti/R so results will vary depending on car.
- Standard kits see fixed 10mm drop in the front and rear is adjustable to 30mm below stock height
- Fully Adjustable kits are adjustable from 10-30mm below stock height front and rear

Which kit suits you and your cars driving habits?

This Chart below is a solid reference guide to what is going to suit you and your driving style. Are you dissatisfied with the ride
quality of your car with the factory suspension? MSS Street or Sport spring kits are going to be an ideal choice for improved ride.
Utilizing revised coil bind diameter and spring height changes, MSS has covered grounds to allow the springs to carry a lower spring
rate than stock, while increasing handling and road stability by a significant amount. It must be magic!

- Every day user, zero track days but want the car to handle better and be as comfortable as possible? - Streets rate is most suited to you.
- Every day user, track days once in a blue moon or even frequent but also want the car to be more comfortable without lack
of performance? - Sports are for you! This is the do one, do all rate for 90% of drivers.
- Still drive the car on the street but didn't mind a harsher ride quality? But at the same time want much better handling than stock,
increased ride comfort and want the car to be 100% confident on the street and on the track? Track or Track LS are for you.



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[XLR8 Craig]

MSS kits explained.

THE PRINCIPLE BEHIND OUR REAR STACKED ARRANGEMENT DESIGN

Think of MSS Spring Kits as a ‘Speaker system’ with dedicated speaker components.

– Tweeters to handle high frequencies.

– Mid-woofers to handle mid-range frequencies.

– Subwoofers to handle bass that can be felt, and in some cases heard many blocks away.

Each speaker component is specifically designed to operate at its optimum within a focused frequency range. Our spring kit solution, with its triple-rated stacked rear springs arrangement, acts exactly in the same way as the ‘Speaker system’.

– The low rated springs in the stacked arrangement, rated from 100Ibs, are the ‘tweeters’ and therefore handles smaller road bumps.

–The middle springs rated from 300Ibs can be thought of as the ‘mid-woofers’ handling medium road bumps.

–The heavy duty springs rated over 2500Ibs can be thought of as the ‘subwoofers’ handling big compressions such as going over speed humps or curbs on a race circuit



The different compression load handling capabilities, illustrated above with the 3 states of compression, and the rebound capabilities of each selected spring ensures the following...;

– Stability is maintained during high speed cornering or braking to ensure that the car is not unsettled easily. These are attributed to the middle and heavy duty springs resisting and keeping sudden movements to minimal.

– Ride Comfort is retained over rough tarmac mainly attributed to the smaller and middle rated springs though the heavy duty spring also play a subtle role in ensuring sudden compression such as driving over a pothole is contained with a muted/subtle 'thud' sound through the cabin which replaces the prior shudder of the cabin .

– Composed and Balanced handling is evident during spirited street driving or use on race track in advance driving class or competition and this is mainly attributed to the heavy duty springs working in unison with the middle rated springs.

– Squatting is greatly reduced under acceleration, especially beneficial exiting a corner as the car remains controlled. The benefit of the heavy duty springs becomes apparent during this driving scenario. It really does a great job of handling high loads which is evident during acceleration.

– Dive during hard braking, attributed to load transfer from the rear axle, is minimised due to our progressive stacked rear arrangement counteracting against the rate of load transfer from the rear axle.

If anyone has any other questions or concerns please let me know!

Thanks,

Alex.

[XLR8 Craig]

Installing a Fully Adjustable Sport set today :)

[Karbon]

On a S3 ? If so im curious how low they go. Hopefully lower then springs

[S3BURPS]

I second Karbon's curiosity. Also, how well do they ride when set a little lower.


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[Karbon]

This must be a tough install lol. In for updates ! :)

[XLR8 Craig]

On a S3 ? If so im curious how low they go. Hopefully lower then springs

I second Karbon's curiosity. Also, how well do they ride when set a little lower.


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This must be a tough install lol. In for updates ! :)

Thanks everyone for the interest! I have been back logged. I am editing photos now of the install. I left at 5pm on Friday and the car left around 6ish. I am trying to get him to come down for some finished pictures after it is settled.

Give me a few minutes and Ill get them uploaded.

Thanks!

Greg

[XLR8 Craig]

Here are some of the install photos. This car was NON-DCC. More photos to come!


MSS Fully Adjustable Sport kit
034 Motorsport Dogbone Mount Insert
034 Motorsport Rear Subframe mount insert
034 Motorsport Rear Sway bar









Thanks,

Greg

[XLR8 Craig]

Hey this is my 2015 A3. My original suspension was the S-line Sports package so my car sat a little higher than a stock S3.
I had this kit set at 15mm which is the recommended setting for the adjustable MSS kits for the best ride quality. There's definitely more room to go
lower but I'm on the east coast (CT) and with winter coming plus our terrible roads I didn't want it crazy low. Also I'm running 18's for the winter
and will be getting some 19's for the spring. The drop looks good and has about a finger gap with the 18's. We'll be taking some pictures this Friday to add to the thread.

As far as the how the MSS sport kit feels. I can attest that everything from the marketing is true. There's absolutely no squatting when taking off, the car just pulls now from dead stops.
There's also little to no nosedives from heavy braking ie the car stops fine with no jerks. The ride comfort feels a bit tighter than the s-line sport suspension but still comfortable, so if your coming from a sports package A3 like me or a S3 you should feel right at home with the way the car rides if not just more refined. It takes corners like a dream also, FYI MSS recommends the sway bar be set at the soft setting since the springs help with a lot of the handling, I might go the firm setting in a few months just see what the difference is though. Excelerate did an awesome job with the install so I definitely recommend them for service if anyone is close to CT. I'll have more updates later this week. Thanks

Thanks so much for the kind words. Mean a lot. Glad to hear you have been enjoying the suspension and thank you for posting for all to see. See you Friday!

Cheers,

Greg

[XLR8 Craig]

I do not take credit for this video, but it can be used as a fantastic aid in helping one make their purchase decision based on facts, real world results rather than the guy that's offering to sell them to you :cool: Hats off to the Wheelie Cool Videos for producing a truthful video to demonstrate the capabilities of the MK7 platform with the right suspension. If anyone has questions please shoot me an e-mail since I check them more often than the forums. But a PM always works too :)

I believe the owner of this car is also a forum member :cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE5c...ature=youtu.be

[XLR8 Craig]

The latest photos of the A3 we installed a fully adjustable sport kit on. :D

[robertsonsylee]

The latest photos of the A3 we installed a fully adjustable sport kit on. :D

How much lower can the front go?

[XLR8 Craig]

Roughly 10mm or so I believe. Cant remember to be brutally honest

[XLR8 Craig]

MSS kits are in stock and ready to ship.

Thanks,

Alex.

[XLR8 Craig]

Why do MSS Kits ride so well? The rear stacked progressive and linear springs allow to full articulation of the factory DCC and non DCC shock and prevent bottoming out. The stack also allows you to reach a desired ride height without sacrificing any ride quality or performance. Each rear spring is designed to operate at its maximum potential and work together.

High speeds, tight corners, heavy braking, instant acceleration, launches etc are all attributes that are no match. We dare you to out drive your suspension

[XLR8 Craig]

Just received 90+ kits in today! Plenty of stock to go around! Looking to become a dealer for MSS? Contact [email protected]

[XLR8 Craig]

Our local MSS tester, Walter was traveling in England for work and messaged us to see if we can arrange a meetup with the fellows at MSS. We made it happen and it looks like a bunch of fun was had! He witnessed an install on an RS3 and was able to speak to the gentleman at MSS.

My how I wish we got the RS3 in hatch form!

[John P.]

Looking forward to hearing more real world accounts of this setup.

[XLR8 Craig]

Looking forward to hearing more real world accounts of this setup.

John, there are dozens of customers in the US currently with fantastic results. If you head over to Vortex and Golf Mk7 and check out our threads over there, there are a lot of great posts with all kinds of feedback. There are some great success stories here too!

If you have any questions please feel free to let me know, I would be happy to help you.

Thanks,

Greg

[tsunamis4]

Anyone know how much lower the drop would be at the lowest adjustable setting compared to the ED springs on a S3 with magride?

[XLR8 Craig]

The drop would be within 5-10mm of each other. Don't forget the springs on the S3 are lower than on the Golf R so it might be more noticeable.

This A3 does not have Mag Ride with about 10mm or so left to go down up front. Rear is all the way up to spec.

[AwdOwns]

I've heard nothing but good things.

[XLR8 Craig]

I've heard nothing but good things.

Thank you!

[XLR8 Craig]

Just received more kits... running out room in the warehouse! Well over 100 kits in stock of all variants.

Want to become a re-seller/dealer for MSS send us an e-mail at [email protected]

[XLR8 Craig]

Another assembly shot from when Walter visited MSS England and experienced an install on an RS3!

[XLR8 Craig]

All Kits in stock ready to ship!

[Mops@Nemesis]

We need pics of these on a mag S3 :)

[jpy1980]

This MSS spring set is so confusing to choose from. So if you're already lowered, you can just get a rear set? So you will have two different brand of springs with different spring rates? Also the description of the choices don't make sense. The track springs are harsher but retain comfort? The sport set are for people who track once in a blue moon Or frequently?

How about I tell you my driving style and you tell me.

I am currently lowered on ED springs and have mag ride. I also track my car (autox/hpde) about 6 times a year plus some canyon driving. I also daily drive it as well. I don't mind harshness, but my wife will. Haha what would you guys suggest I do? Will these springs be a night and day difference from the ones I already have, or should I go with coilovers?

[XLR8 Craig]

This MSS spring set is so confusing to choose from. So if you're already lowered, you can just get a rear set? So you will have two different brand of springs with different spring rates? Also the description of the choices don't make sense. The track springs are harsher but retain comfort? The sport set are for people who track once in a blue moon Or frequently?

If you already have a spring set say, H&R, VWR, ED, etc etc you can add just a rear kit yes. But yes you will have two different sets of springs (obviously) and different spring rates (obviously) These cars' handling characteristics are so heavily dependent on what spring is in the rear. The front spring doesnt matter as much. ALL of the MSS kits for the MK7 or 8V chassis use the same spring rate, that is the street in the front. The reason behind this is, there was no need to go stiffer in the front, the car just rode like crap and didn't actually handle any better. So, MSS chose to keep the softer front spring for comfort purpose. The rear spring as I said determines much of how this car reacts on the street. The stiffness in ride, body control and corner control. the two part stacked rear spring allows the car to have no compromise, you have one spring doing one job and the other doing another. One spring to give you the comfort around town and the other to give you the stability when you need it most.

The track pack (street front and track rear orange spring) The statement of the track kit being stiffer yes softer means this. The track pack is softer than the stock spring (yes audi went overboard on the stock suspension) but is the stiffest of the group of MSS (street, sport, track) Hopefully this clarifies that.

How about I tell you my driving style and you tell me.

PERFECT!

I am currently lowered on ED springs and have mag ride. I also track my car (autox/hpde) about 6 times a year plus some canyon driving. I also daily drive it as well. I don't mind harshness, but my wife will. Haha what would you guys suggest I do? Will these springs be a night and day difference from the ones I already have, or should I go with coilovers?

Mag ride you say? I say rule out coilovers at this point because you have an AWESOME bases suspension and I see no need to get rid of your factory shocks since they are in my opinion more advanced than any twin tube design thats been around for ages. I am glad to hear that you have ED springs because we have installed them and test driven them, they work well and a great alternate to MSS if you are looking to spread the budget thinner. I have drive cars with their springs and like them a lot, but they lack in some of the departments the MSS shine, that is in the corners and the track. But that's not what they're really intended for, right? They mostly built for aesthetics and comfort. Nothing wrong there! I would consider the ED springs to the MSS Street kits as far as performance and ride quality. But there must be a reason you're in here right? You want this car to handle optimally.

I would highly recommend the sport rear or track kit. The sport kit is going to be more comfortable around town, have similar ride comfort to your ED springs but really shine in the handling department. The sport kits are what I recommend to 90% of our customer base because you get your cake and eat it too. If you plan to track this car often and auto cross frequently, the track pack is probably going to be my recommendation for you. it is going to be the MOST confident of the group and give you the best possible steering response, high speed stability and support you need to push your car to the limits without feeling you're leaving something to be desired. I have a some drive time in the latest track pack kit we did and Ill be honest it really isn't much more uncomfortable than the sport kit, but yu can certainly feel the difference when pushed hard in the tight corners and high speeds around the not so tight corners.

Believe me, I know it is confusing I have been dealing with MSS for the past 2 years. My responses are in Bold type below your questions/comments and I hope I covered everything for you. If you are still confused I recommend keeping your ED front springs and using the MSS track pack rear kit.

Questions? Concerns? Let me know!


Thanks,

Greg

[ghost333777]

I'll try to get some pics up of my mag ride s3 over the next few days. Never tried it before. Also a short review. Time may be tough with Christmas right around the corner. I have had them installed for about 10 days now and so far I am very pleased.

[Mops@Nemesis]

I'll try to get some pics up of my mag ride s3 over the next few days. Never tried it before. Also a short review. Time may be tough with Christmas right around the corner. I have had them installed for about 10 days now and so far I am very pleased.

Please do, and thanks in advance! I just want to know I can get even wheels gaps, without the rear sitting super high to achieve that.

[jpy1980]

Believe me, I know it is confusing I have been dealing with MSS for the past 2 years. My responses are in Bold type below your questions/comments and I hope I covered everything for you. If you are still confused I recommend keeping your ED front springs and using the MSS track pack rear kit.

Questions? Concerns? Let me know!

Thanks,

Greg

Greg, you are reallllllly selling me on the rear track pack kit! Haha your answers were awesome. Now for another question. My wife thinks my car rides too harsh already as it is with the ED springs. She drives my car in a blue moon, but its enough for her to complain. She drives a cushy Q3 so I guess she's used to that. Would the sport springs be better in this instance or since she already thinks the ED springs are harsh, will she notice a difference with the track springs?

Also, how does the sport springs compare to the track springs? Will the car feel that much more neutral with the track springs rather than the sport springs? Also do you need an alignment when installing just the rear?

My chassis/suspension mods that I have currently are:

ED springs
034 Subframe Inserts
Eurocode Rear Chassis Brace
034 Dogbone Insert
ED Rear Sway Bar
ED Rear adjustable endlinks

At this point, I'm thinking the rear sport springs may just be the cherry on top? With my current mods, would the rear track springs be too harsh?

Thoughts?

[XLR8 Craig]

I'll try to get some pics up of my mag ride s3 over the next few days. Never tried it before. Also a short review. Time may be tough with Christmas right around the corner. I have had them installed for about 10 days now and so far I am very pleased.

Great to hear, if you need help posting the photos, e-mail them to me at [email protected] and I can host and post them for you.

Please do, and thanks in advance! I just want to know I can get even wheels gaps, without the rear sitting super high to achieve that.

You will have no problem setting the rear to match the front. Sport or track rear kit with 20mm threads showing inside the cup is perfection in my eyes.

Greg, you are reallllllly selling me on the rear track pack kit! Haha your answers were awesome. Now for another question. My wife thinks my car rides too harsh already as it is with the ED springs. She drives my car in a blue moon, but its enough for her to complain. She drives a cushy Q3 so I guess she's used to that. Would the sport springs be better in this instance or since she already thinks the ED springs are harsh, will she notice a difference with the track springs?

Also, how does the sport springs compare to the track springs? Will the car feel that much more neutral with the track springs rather than the sport springs? Also do you need an alignment when installing just the rear?

My chassis/suspension mods that I have currently are:

ED springs
034 Subframe Inserts
Eurocode Rear Chassis Brace
034 Dogbone Insert
ED Rear Sway Bar
ED Rear adjustable endlinks

At this point, I'm thinking the rear sport springs may just be the cherry on top? With my current mods, would the rear track springs be too harsh?

Thoughts?

I thought the sport rear felt nicer than the ED springs in my drive time. But I never drove them back to back so I enjoyed them respectively. I would probably go for the sports in your car since you have a rear sway bar. The track pack does not require an aftermarket rear sway bar. The track kits cover most of the irregularities of the stock rear suspension in the stacked springs itself, where as the car with stock suspension will benefit from the thicker bar. I like the list of other modifications and think the sport will suit your needs just fine.

Ride quality and comfort is subjective, but if she complains now, than I think you're in it for the long haul however, I don't think its going to be worse. :)

I would highly recommend an alignment, or at least check it, you do have to drop the lower control arm bolt to change the spring out.

Thanks,

Greg

[XLR8 Craig]

I'll try to get some pics up of my mag ride s3 over the next few days. Never tried it before. Also a short review. Time may be tough with Christmas right around the corner. I have had them installed for about 10 days now and so far I am very pleased.

"Here's some pics and mini review. Mag ride with sport kit fully adjustable.

Overall ride quality is definitely better. In all modes, the ride is smoother and more controlled than stock. Ride was always a bit bouncy in dynamic mode. It is now more composed over bumps and feels very planted in hard cornering. For me, I could never use the comfort setting for the shocks. It always felt too floaty with a lot of body roll. Now it works great for casual driving as part of my individual settings. The car still stays pretty flat in comfort mode which was a nice surprise. This time around, I don't want to go crazy and change out all the usual mods for better handling. I am very happy with this setup and I think for most people would be too.

Fronts are spun down all of the way. The rears are about 1/4" up from their lowest point.
Front fender to ground measurement is 25 7/8"
Rear fender to ground measurement is 25 3/4"

@Mops, you could get whatever rear fender gap you want with this kit. Less, equal to front or more. Like you and others have said, with the body lines, I think equal gap looks a bit too raked. I felt a good compromise was an 1/8" lower in the back."

[ghost333777]

Thanks for the help with the photos Greg!

[phillyquattro]

That's as low as the front gets?

I was considering swapping from my Bilstein coils to these just to get rid of the constant EDC error, but that doesn't look all that lower than the stock height from the side shots...even with a square tire like the MPSS filling out more of the gap. I have a slight stretch on my tires so I know the gap will visually appear to be even larger. I have to remeasure my current fender to ground height as I'm pretty sure I'm already lower than that and wanted to go a touch bit lower. Damn, something else to consider now.

[ghost333777]

Yeah, that's as low as it gets. Supposed to be 30mm. I don't think this kit is designed to go super low. I assume the kit only goes so low to maintain functionality and longevity of the stock shocks. Just a guess. I'm pretty sure the Bilsteins have much greater adjustability. If I didn't have mag ride the pss10's would be on the car. Loved them on my previous a4. I just went out and looked at my car, it does look a bit lower in person than what your seeing in the close up side shots. Perhaps the lighting and shadows are throwing things off. Never measured stock height. Now I'm curious what stock height ground to fender measurements are.

[XLR8 Craig]

Thanks for the help with the photos Greg!

My pleasure

That's as low as the front gets?

I was considering swapping from my Bilstein coils to these just to get rid of the constant EDC error, but that doesn't look all that lower than the stock height from the side shots...even with a square tire like the MPSS filling out more of the gap. I have a slight stretch on my tires so I know the gap will visually appear to be even larger. I have to remeasure my current fender to ground height as I'm pretty sure I'm already lower than that and wanted to go a touch bit lower. Damn, something else to consider now.

These kits are not designed to be a show drop suspension, they are purpose built to allow the car to perform better and ride better than stock while retaining ALL OE functions. This suspension will settle a bit, but it is not going to settle to the point of lower than where you're at (at least my opinion)

Yeah, that's as low as it gets. Supposed to be 30mm. I don't think this kit is designed to go super low. I assume the kit only goes so low to maintain functionality and longevity of the stock shocks. Just a guess. I'm pretty sure the Bilsteins have much greater adjustability. If I didn't have mag ride the pss10's would be on the car. Loved them on my previous a4. I just went out and looked at my car, it does look a bit lower in person than what your seeing in the close up side shots. Perhaps the lighting and shadows are throwing things off. Never measured stock height. Now I'm curious what stock height ground to fender measurements are.

Give it a few thousand miles, they will settle and you may consider raising it, We have had to do so for a few customers. But 30mm is roughly 1.2" some cars will see 35-40mm 1.25-1.5" drop depending on which kit and which car.

Thanks,

Greg

[Karbon]

Now I'm curious what stock height ground to fender measurements are.

Stock height for mag ride is 26.5" front and rear. That's what mine was anyways

[ghost333777]

[QUOTE=Excelerate Rep;12100956]

These kits are not designed to be a show drop suspension, they are purpose built to allow the car to perform better and ride better than stock while retaining ALL OE functions. This suspension will settle a bit, but it is not going to settle to the point of lower than where you're at (at least my opinion)

This is what I'm experiencing. A much improved ride over stock and a nice oem+ look. If it settles just a tad bit more, that will be the icing on the cake.