Injector Seal Tool / Remover. Need ASAP

**Denio24** · 09-26-2016 04:02 PM

Was wondering if anyone has the injector teflon seal installer and injector puller tool. I would like to either purchase or rent.

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**aluthman** · 09-26-2016 08:29 PM

I made a tool to install the teflon seals by taking an aluminum dowel and sanding it into a cone. Use it to gently flare/stretch the seal as needed to get it onto the injector and then compress it back down to normal size with your fingers. Ad far as the puller, I've never needed anything beyond twisting and pulling by hand.

**Okedokey** · 09-26-2016 08:48 PM

Obviously you can get one from ECS. Works well.

**Denio24** · 09-26-2016 08:55 PM

Ok so im hoping my injectors will come out fairly easily. Any idea of the diameter of the injector tip?

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**jbain2** · 09-26-2016 09:23 PM

I pulled mine by hand as well. I know VW makes a tool, and they make it sound like the world will end if you don't have it. I would try first before spending money. I didn't have to replace the Teflon seals as they were fine on the injectors I swapped in.

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**Denio24** · 09-26-2016 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by jbain2

I pulled mine by hand as well. I know VW makes a tool, and they make it sound like the world will end if you don't have it. I would try first before spending money. I didn't have to replace the Teflon seals as they were fine on the injectors I swapped in.

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I will definitely try that first!

**saizero** · 09-27-2016 05:07 PM

I have the schwaben kit and willing to let lend it out. PM me.

**RyGuy1050** · 09-27-2016 07:28 PM

I just did my injector seals last week, all of the injectors pulled out with the intake manifold... As far as the seals, I cut the old ones off with a knife. Stretched the news ones over a semi sharpened round pencil, slipped them on the injector. If you have a 8mm socket I think it was just work it over the seal while it's in the injector groove. It will start to go back to size... Next slowly press the injector into the head, if you are easily worrisome before fully pushing the injector in; pull it out and make sure it is setting proper. It will begin to flush with the injector. Push it in completely, I think these are technically one time use so once you set them leave them alone! Have fun. A little twisting helped them form in the head nicely...

**aluthman** · 09-27-2016 07:35 PM

I've reused the teflon seals multiple times before replacing them. You can probably do it 4-5 times before you have to worry about a bad seal.

**Denio24** · 09-27-2016 07:59 PM

Great info guys! Just pulled the turbo today. Looks like cylinder 1 is toast. The exhaust port was all wet on the cylinder head. Ill be pulling the head when time allows.

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**aluthman** · 09-27-2016 08:16 PM

I'd be willing to bet money it's not the heads fault. I'm guessing you have bad rings on that cylinder. Do a compression and leakdown test prior to tearing it apart.

**Denio24** · 09-27-2016 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by aluthman

I'd be willing to bet money it's not the heads fault. I'm guessing you have bad rings on that cylinder. Do a compression and leakdown test prior to tearing it apart.

Another symptom that sprung up around the same time was an oil leak coming out of the first connection upper oring point out of the straight tube that is pressed into the block. This may have something to do with blowby, but i have no idea how oil can go up that far in the dipstick tube. Good thing my otc leakdown and compression tester have come in. How have those tools been treating you Aluthman?

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**aluthman** · 09-27-2016 08:33 PM

They worked great for me when I used them last. Been in storage for a while now though. You can get an oil leak there by the crankcase being pressurized. This happens when your PCV setup can't keep up with blowby gases (presumably from bad rings). This sounds a lot like the issue I had, but my bad rings were in cylinder #2 and #3.

**Denio24** · 09-27-2016 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by aluthman

They worked great for me when I used them last. Been in storage for a while now though. You can get an oil leak there by the crankcase being pressurized. This happens when your PCV setup can't keep up with blowby gases (presumably from bad rings). This sounds a lot like the issue I had, but my bad rings were in cylinder #2 and #3.

That was a ...well, tiresome thread as i remember. When i open the oil cap when running i get a slight vacuum, which is good, but smoke starts coming out. Its so odd as my compression was 180 across the board more than a month ago. Very curious as to what i will find.

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**aluthman** · 09-27-2016 08:48 PM

I had good compression also, but apparently my oil control rings weren't doing their job. Whatever the cause, a new set of rings fixed it.

**Okedokey** · 09-28-2016 06:09 AM

You really should replace the teflon seals. They're not expensive.

The issue with the tools is not getting the seal on, but recompressing it once it is on.

**Denio24** · 09-28-2016 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Okedokey

You really should replace the teflon seals. They're not expensive.

The issue with the tools is not getting the seal on, but recompressing it once it is on.

You can wrap up the seals in electrical tape then compress using a hose clamp. Ive rebuild a steering rack using this method. Alot of times you can get away from using special tools just by being creative. I was going to buy the tool but now it doesnt look so bad.

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**fly300kts** · 09-28-2016 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Denio24

Was wondering if anyone has the injector teflon seal installer and injector puller tool. I would like to either purchase or rent.

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I have the set, for sale

Phil

**Denio24** · 09-28-2016 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by fly300kts

I have the set, for sale

Phil

How much? At a good price i would take it off your hands just because i like working with specialty tools.

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**fly300kts** · 09-28-2016 12:13 PM

PM sent

Phil

**Okedokey** · 09-28-2016 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Denio24

You can wrap up the seals in electrical tape then compress using a hose clamp. Ive rebuild a steering rack using this method. Alot of times you can get away from using special tools just by being creative. I was going to buy the tool but now it doesnt look so bad.

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Electrical tape has rubber and acrylic based adhesives that contain mineral oils and shouldn't touch teflon rings... But creative yes.

**wding2000** · 09-28-2016 04:15 PM

Anyone knows this works for our car? This says equivalent to T10133, whereas our car calls for T10133C - not sure the difference.
http://www.kochtools.com/index.php?p=product&id=166

**Denio24** · 09-28-2016 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by wding2000

Anyone knows this works for our car? This says equivalent to T10133, whereas our car calls for T10133C - not sure the difference.
http://www.kochtools.com/index.php?p=product&id=166

That looks like it. You have the puller, teflon ring expander, and 3 teflon ring compressors.

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