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    Lowering springs for stock suspension Facelift 2.0T quattro B8

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    Hi guys,

    just a quick question before I purchase lowering springs.

    The most minimal distance for lowering springs available is 1.2' inches?

    I have also noticed some brands sell more of a drop at the rear... for e.g 1.2' at the front but the rear is 1.5'? can some one shed some light with that?

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    Just get the eibach pro kit if you're looking for a minimal drop. Those springs don't compromise ride quality and it will lower it slightly too..
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    Yeah I understand that part, Eibach are one of the best on the market...

    but what I was asking, eibach sells different springs... I do see one that's 1.2'... so that would be the least amount of drop?.... like there is no 1"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublespeeded View Post
    Yeah I understand that part, Eibach are one of the best on the market...

    but what I was asking, eibach sells different springs... I do see one that's 1.2'... so that would be the least amount of drop?.... like there is no 1"?
    The Audi OEM sport package springs provide a 0.8-0.9" drop. In fact, if you convince me to get a bigger drop with Eibachs, coils, etc I might sell ya mine :)

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    ^ what he said. Audi sport suspension (which shows up in the classifieds sporadically) is the most mild drop, roughly 3/4 inch. It's enough to kill the horrible wheel gap, but it doesn't look low. That's what I have on my B8.5:



    My previous B8 had the Pro Kit, which was noticeably lower and frankly too low for my extremely low tolerance for inconvenience in my daily driving:



    If you get aftermarket springs, get a kit which matched with shocks like the B12 Pro Kit. If not, your stock shocks will fail in 10-20k miles and you'll be paying labor to fix it again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rainydaze View Post
    The Audi OEM sport package springs provide a 0.8-0.9" drop. In fact, if you convince me to get a bigger drop with Eibachs, coils, etc I might sell ya mine :)
    Quote Originally Posted by Project Quattro View Post
    ^ what he said. Audi sport suspension (which shows up in the classifieds sporadically) is the most mild drop, roughly 3/4 inch. It's enough to kill the horrible wheel gap, but it doesn't look low. That's what I have on my B8.5:


    My previous B8 had the Pro Kit, which was noticeably lower and frankly too low for my extremely low tolerance for inconvenience in my daily driving:


    If you get aftermarket springs, get a kit which matched with shocks like the B12 Pro Kit. If not, your stock shocks will fail in 10-20k miles and you'll be paying labor to fix it again.


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    ok ive always wondered too.

    So the S-Line package offers 0.8 - 0.9 inch... which would be ideal for me.

    But from what I can see, aftermarket wise.... 1.2" is the highest that you can get?

    I don't think its worth while paying for s-line struts...

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    Lowering springs for stock suspension Facelift 2.0T quattro B8

    Quote Originally Posted by doublespeeded View Post
    ok ive always wondered too.

    So the S-Line package offers 0.8 - 0.9 inch... which would be ideal for me.

    But from what I can see, aftermarket wise.... 1.2" is the highest that you can get?

    I don't think its worth while paying for s-line struts...
    You're correct, I think 1.2 is as mild an aftermarket drop as you can get. My car came with the sports suspension and I'm not planning on changing it; it looks good enough and it can clear speed bumps and parking garages no problem.

    Edit: Even that 1.2 drop you will scrape sometimes and need to be careful driving around.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rainydaze View Post
    The Audi OEM sport package springs provide a 0.8-0.9" drop. In fact, if you convince me to get a bigger drop with Eibachs, coils, etc I might sell ya mine :)
    Quote Originally Posted by Project Quattro View Post
    ^ what he said. Audi sport suspension (which shows up in the classifieds sporadically) is the most mild drop, roughly 3/4 inch. It's enough to kill the horrible wheel gap, but it doesn't look low. That's what I have on my B8.5:



    My previous B8 had the Pro Kit, which was noticeably lower and frankly too low for my extremely low tolerance for inconvenience in my daily driving:



    If you get aftermarket springs, get a kit which matched with shocks like the B12 Pro Kit. If not, your stock shocks will fail in 10-20k miles and you'll be paying labor to fix it again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Quattro View Post
    You're correct, I think 1.2 is as mild an aftermarket drop as you can get. My car came with the sports suspension and I'm not planning on changing it; it looks good enough and it can clear speed bumps and parking garages no problem.

    Edit: Even that 1.2 drop you will scrape sometimes and need to be careful driving around.


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    interesting that you've mentioned. Because when I bought this Non-S-line... the underside of the lip was immaculate without any scrapes. (I guess either due to the high suspension or the previous owner was careful). I checked out a few other S-lines at the time also and all of them had scrapes under the lip area.

    So I kinda figured that even with 0.9 or 0.8" drop, you'd scrape... Hence why, Im not keen on going the 1.2" drop.

    With the existing clearance, its actually about x3 fingers between the wheel arch and the tyre. (I know, Americans spell 'Tire' lol)... I used a tape measure and if it is to drop 1.2", then its actually less than x2 fingers in between. which is what the photos attached by the other uses above indicate also. It looks like the 0.8 - 0.9 S-Line clearance is the perfect all-rounder.


    I guess the only remedy for that is to go Coil-overs, so then you have full control of how much you want to lower the car.
    But springs is definitely a lot more affordable compared to full coilovers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublespeeded View Post
    interesting that you've mentioned. Because when I bought this Non-S-line... the underside of the lip was immaculate without any scrapes. (I guess either due to the high suspension or the previous owner was careful). I checked out a few other S-lines at the time also and all of them had scrapes under the lip area.

    So I kinda figured that even with 0.9 or 0.8" drop, you'd scrape... Hence why, Im not keen on going the 1.2" drop.

    With the existing clearance, its actually about x3 fingers between the wheel arch and the tyre. (I know, Americans spell 'Tire' lol)... I used a tape measure and if it is to drop 1.2", then its actually less than x2 fingers in between. which is what the photos attached by the other uses above indicate also. It looks like the 0.8 - 0.9 S-Line clearance is the perfect all-rounder.


    I guess the only remedy for that is to go Coil-overs, so then you have full control of how much you want to lower the car.
    But springs is definitely a lot more affordable compared to full coilovers...
    Most coilovers are lower than stock, even at max height. YMMV. If you want the sports/S-line suspension, there's usually a set in the classifieds every month or two. for a few hundred dollars.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Quattro View Post
    ^ what he said. Audi sport suspension (which shows up in the classifieds sporadically) is the most mild drop, roughly 3/4 inch. It's enough to kill the horrible wheel gap, but it doesn't look low. That's what I have on my B8.5:



    My previous B8 had the Pro Kit, which was noticeably lower and frankly too low for my extremely low tolerance for inconvenience in my daily driving:



    If you get aftermarket springs, get a kit which matched with shocks like the B12 Pro Kit. If not, your stock shocks will fail in 10-20k miles and you'll be paying labor to fix it again.


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    YMMV on this one- I have the eibach pros on my car and have had it for at least 30-40k miles, and my ride still feels as new on the stock shocks. the only consequence ive experienced with the lowering springs is that my rear tires rub the wheel well when i have a full backseat, or drive over a speedhump too fast. im pretty happy with the ride height, its a good compromise for daily driving- I do wish that the rear were SLIGHTLY lower than it is (maybe ideally 1.4 front, 1.3 rear), but then again the H&R sports (1.5 front 1.5 rear makes the back look lower)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainydaze View Post
    The Audi OEM sport package springs provide a 0.8-0.9" drop. In fact, if you convince me to get a bigger drop with Eibachs, coils, etc I might sell ya mine :)
    Quote Originally Posted by Project Quattro View Post
    ^ what he said. Audi sport suspension (which shows up in the classifieds sporadically) is the most mild drop, roughly 3/4 inch. It's enough to kill the horrible wheel gap, but it doesn't look low. That's what I have on my B8.5:



    My previous B8 had the Pro Kit, which was noticeably lower and frankly too low for my extremely low tolerance for inconvenience in my daily driving:


    If you get aftermarket springs, get a kit which matched with shocks like the B12 Pro Kit. If not, your stock shocks will fail in 10-20k miles and you'll be paying labor to fix it again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Quattro View Post
    You're correct, I think 1.2 is as mild an aftermarket drop as you can get. My car came with the sports suspension and I'm not planning on changing it; it looks good enough and it can clear speed bumps and parking garages no problem.

    Edit: Even that 1.2 drop you will scrape sometimes and need to be careful driving around.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andyroxs View Post
    YMMV on this one- I have the eibach pros on my car and have had it for at least 30-40k miles, and my ride still feels as new on the stock shocks. the only consequence ive experienced with the lowering springs is that my rear tires rub the wheel well when i have a full backseat, or drive over a speedhump too fast. im pretty happy with the ride height, its a good compromise for daily driving- I do wish that the rear were SLIGHTLY lower than it is (maybe ideally 1.4 front, 1.3 rear), but then again the H&R sports (1.5 front 1.5 rear makes the back look lower)
    Quote Originally Posted by Project Quattro View Post
    Most coilovers are lower than stock, even at max height. YMMV. If you want the sports/S-line suspension, there's usually a set in the classifieds every month or two. for a few hundred dollars.


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    Heya Andy, ill message ya in private and we can have a quick discussion if that's ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublespeeded View Post
    Heya Andy, ill message ya in private and we can have a quick discussion if that's ok.
    Ask in public so we can all learn :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainydaze View Post
    Ask in public so we can all learn :)
    Fair enough,

    The reason I wanted to message him, is that it seems like hes experienced a few different set ups. I was also curious what lowering height the red A4 had in the pic.

    And I also couldn't quite follow what he was describing. For e.g He mentioned he has Eibachs (he didn't specify which height) and as a result, it rubs when he has a full car load.

    Im a bit concerned about my wheels also, I have the 5-rotor arm S-line package wheels 19" and hard cornering I hear something rubbing at the front... so I assume any lowering may make it worse. (or it could make it better as lowering springs may be stiffer to a degree? and lower centre of gravity, may help balance the car better during cornering... )

    hmmm

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    If you're talking about my red car, it's stock sport suspension.

    When I had the Eibach Pro Kit on my previous car (the black one) it would sometimes scrape over speed bumps and parking lot entrances, but I drove it full of people and never had an issue with rubbing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Quattro View Post
    If you're talking about my red car, it's stock sport suspension.

    When I had the Eibach Pro Kit on my previous car (the black one) it would sometimes scrape over speed bumps and parking lot entrances, but I drove it full of people and never had an issue with rubbing.


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    So that's the OEM S-Line suspension ?

    looks lower, perhaps its the shadow over the tire, causing it the effect.

    I guess I can buy those shocks from wreckers, but the only issue would be to trust how much mileage its done or whatever is available.

    So what height springs was it on the Black B8.0?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublespeeded View Post
    So that's the OEM S-Line suspension ?

    looks lower, perhaps its the shadow over the tire, causing it the effect.

    I guess I can buy those shocks from wreckers, but the only issue would be to trust how much mileage its done or whatever is available.

    So what height springs was it on the Black B8.0?
    Sorry, I was MIA last weekend. Yes, the red car is OE Sports/S-line suspension. Here's a different picture:



    The black car was on the Eibach Pro Kit, which was a drop of 1.4" front and 1.2" rear. The H&R kit which is a level drop of 1.2" front and rear tends to make it look like the ass of the car is lower than the front due to how Audi designed the fenders.


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