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    Vorsteiner VFF-103 vs. VFF-104

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    Trying to decide between the two. I'm leaning toward the 104 - I really like the 5 spoke look but l'm interested in opinions/photos from anyone that has either. I'm partial to the carbon graphite finish but I was wondering if anyone has the platinum gunmetal in either wheel, especially against Daytona Grey. Any feedback would be appreciated.

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    Can't tell you exactly why, but I am really liking the v-ff 103 these days.
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    I faced the same difficult choice when I purchased my wheels. I really like the 5 spoke look as well, but I went with the 103's and I could not be happier.

    At the time the 104's were not ready for order yet and the 103's were in stock. Then I learned that the 103's were 2-3 lbs lighter (I don't remember the exact weight of the 104's, but the 103's are 23.6lbs.) The weight savings relative to OEM was definitely noticeable in handling and stability (I'm also on H&R coils and sways.) If you go with 104's you'll give up most, if not all, of the weight savings, but at least you'll have a bigger wheel without added weight.

    I'm Interested to see you ride whichever way you decide. Both will look great. Good luck





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    These are carbon graphite. Sorry for the port image quality. Hope this helps


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    I went with the 104s and chouldnt be happier the look is perfect.





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    Here are my mercury silver 104's on the stock ride height. I'm very happy with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceberg78 View Post
    Here are my mercury silver 104's on the stock ride height. I'm very happy with them.

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    I love the mercury silver color against black. I guess thats why I chose the 104s in that color

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    I love my 103s. But super interested to see the 107s mounted on an 5 when they come out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Twotonicnite View Post
    Trying to decide between the two. I'm leaning toward the 104 - I really like the 5 spoke look but l'm interested in opinions/photos from anyone that has either. I'm partial to the carbon graphite finish but I was wondering if anyone has the platinum gunmetal in either wheel, especially against Daytona Grey. Any feedback would be appreciated.
    Did you every pull the trigger on wheels? If so, what did you finally decide?

    I'm looking at the 103's but cant decide between the carbon graphite, plantinum gunmetal, or brushed aluminum.
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    Vorsteiner VFF-103 vs. VFF-104

    Quote Originally Posted by V01 View Post
    I love my 103s. But super interested to see the 107s mounted on an 5 when they come out.

    Oh snap twins, sorta lol. Although mines a B8 in deep sea blue pearl. I'm actually wrapping the window trim & going with carbon mirror caps soon.

    Here's a good look at the 103's via cell shots. I run a 5mm spacer on the rear & on H&R OE springs.







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    There are still some 20x10 VFF-103/104 in stock under the sale from last year. $1,680 shipped.

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    Looks good man!

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    103's in brushed finish it is, email to Mops on the way
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcbuck View Post
    103's in brushed finish it is, email to Mops on the way
    That would be my choice as well. Do these need spacers on a RS5 for stock height? Sizing/bolt pattern? Love to see pics once you get them on your ride!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace22 View Post
    That would be my choice as well. Do these need spacers on a RS5 for stock height? Sizing/bolt pattern? Love to see pics once you get them on your ride!
    They need 10mm up front to clear the calipers. So one could do 10/10, 10/8 even 10/5. 20x10 ET30 5x112 66.6.

    The VFF105 is on sale too. I was shocked when I found out. The 105 weighs about 21.6 pounds.
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    Thanks Mops, one of my favorite wheels and is on my list of mods to do in future
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace22 View Post
    Thanks Mops, one of my favorite wheels and is on my list of mods to do in future
    Yes sir! Just let me know. I'd love for you to hit the sale pricing. I'm going order a couple more brushed for stock.
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    Thanks for of all of the feedback gents, and the pics too! Some fine looking cars. After much debate, I finally pulled the trigger on the 104s in Carbon. A big thanks to Mops for the hookup. Will post pics after the install, but probably not until I install the new coilovers too for the proper drop
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twotonicnite View Post
    Thanks for of all of the feedback gents, and the pics too! Some fine looking cars. After much debate, I finally pulled the trigger on the 104s in Carbon. A big thanks to Mops for the hookup. Will post pics after the install, but probably not until I install the new coilovers too for the proper drop
    My pleasure, Chris! You're going to be very pleased. With the B16 too. That is quite the baller suspension setup :)
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    You will love the 104's. congrats!

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    Had to say goodbye to a venerable friend to make garage room and funding for modding the S5. She now belongs to a proud owner in Wyoming. I'm going to miss her and those Work Meisters...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanimal View Post
    Oh snap twins, sorta lol. Although mines a B8 in deep sea blue pearl. I'm actually wrapping the window trim & going with carbon mirror caps soon.

    Here's a good look at the 103's via cell shots. I run a 5mm spacer on the rear & on H&R OE springs.







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    I mounted the new Carbon 104s and love them. I'm scheduled to do the coilover install on the 21st, and I'll post pics after the drop. Just eyeballing it without the drop though looks like a 5mm spacer in the rear like you have would really compliment it. I've never used spacers before and am concerned about installing them. The hub ring is already short on the S5, and I've noticed that the 5mm spacers have no hub ring extender like the the larger spacers. I'm curious about your install and if this was an issue. That being said, do you think a 10mm spacer would be too much protrusion just to get a hub ring extender?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twotonicnite View Post
    I mounted the new Carbon 104s and love them. I'm scheduled to do the coilover install on the 21st, and I'll post pics after the drop. Just eyeballing it without the drop though looks like a 5mm spacer in the rear like you have would really compliment it. I've never used spacers before and am concerned about installing them. The hub ring is already short on the S5, and I've noticed that the 5mm spacers have no hub ring extender like the the larger spacers. I'm curious about your install and if this was an issue. That being said, do you think a 10mm spacer would be too much protrusion just to get a hub ring extender?
    Chris - 5mm allows for the wheel to hang on the OE hub, so you're good. 10mm will have a built-in centering ring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mops@SupremePower View Post
    Chris - 5mm allows for the wheel to hang on the OE hub, so you're good. 10mm will have a built-in centering ring.
    Thank you! Mops to the rescue yet again. Maybe it's just me, but seems as though the S5's rear fenders/wheel wells are cavernous...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twotonicnite View Post
    Thank you! Mops to the rescue yet again. Maybe it's just me, but seems as though the S5's rear fenders/wheel wells are cavernous...
    I always ran 3-5mm more at the rear for that perfect look :)
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    Finally installed the Bilsteins. What a difference!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twotonicnite View Post
    Finally installed the Bilsteins. What a difference!
    Looks great! If I were a little bit Lowe than my current H&R OE springs I'd do a 10mm in the rear. It would look killer!


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    Damn Chris, that looks fantastic!
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    Anybody got pics of the 103s in mercury silver and brushed to compare I'm guessing the ones from up top are brushed... but not sure
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    Vorsteiner VFF-103 vs. VFF-104

    Quote Originally Posted by soulvxr6 View Post
    Anybody got pics of the 103s in mercury silver and brushed to compare I'm guessing the ones from up top are brushed... but not sure
    Mine pictured above on the deep sea blue are mercury silver. Pictures don't do hem justice, they are pretty vibrant in person.





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