turbo that make 600Nm at 2600rpm

[Mars2]

HI I got a VW T6 tsi so not a B8 Tfsi but my van got an engine that is almost same as your's it also got variable valve lift, ihi KO3, same Hpfp and so on.
Only the intake manifold is different because it need to take air from top because of engine bay architecture and cold side turbo housing is also different for that reason.
You can see OEM turbo here:
https://www.avito.ru/sankt-peterburg...713q_593220076


B&B automobiltechnik who is famous for tuning those Van in germany made 400hp and specialy 600nm at only 2600rpm. early high torque is very good for that 4motion Van because it's so heavy. They did it with a Loba 20.2 Hpfp. that fit My Van and also your audi B8's

https://www.facebook.com/BB.Automobi...35898929775155

Dyno of previous version making 380 crank HP and 600Nm at 2680 Rpm
http://www.bb-automobiltechnik.de/cm...SI_Stufe_5.jpg

So my question is which turbo is capable of so much torque so early and still 400 Crank HP?
I don't want to pay the 25000€ that they ask for this stage 5.
My only guess until now is the Hybride K04/EFR6258.
http://www.turbozentrum.de/en/turbos...ifold/a-31999/

Do you know an other turbo capable of that without E85. so on 93?
Would appreciate any help in that search.

[hyperunion]

The turbo you have is actually an ihi jh5 possibly.. ihi turbos aren't k03's...

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[Zach L]

Most people in the US are not familiar with newton meter (Nm) numbers. Our measure for force is foot-pound (lbft).

600 Nm = 443 lbft

The larger the turbo, the slower it will spool. Slower spool means it will not have a torque peak at such a low RPM. Smaller turbos with lower torque peaks are actually more abusive on the engine, especially the rods. One turbo you may want to look at is the TurboZentrum Hybrid K04/EFR-6758, which is HERE. That turbo is slightly larger and will make about 50 more horspeower. Torque will probably come slightly later (maybe 200-300 RPM later) and be more or less the same.

If low-end torque is the only priority, check the Loba LO400. It has dyno proven 392 crank hp and 568 Nm. It is a little cheaper than the EFR hybrid. It is for 1460 euro here: http://www.all-stars-motorsport.com/...turbo-kit.html

Another turbo to look at is the Loba LO4xx, which is larger than Loba's normal LO400 retooled K04. The LO4xx has proven on a dyno to make over 500 crank HP. It can be found HERE. The LO4xx uses parts from an OEM BorgWarner K16 turbo. It is the competitor to the TurboZentrum Hybrid K04/EFR6758, but it is more expensive. The best value is probably the hybrid K04/EFR6758.

Loba LO4xx

[Zach L]

I think slowone11 is using the LO400 for his build.

The turbo you have is actually an ihi jh5 possibly.. ihi turbos aren't k03's...

People commonly call the JH5 a K03 because the K03 is the closest competitor turbo from BorgWarner. At least the OP got the IHI part correct, so he was on the right track.

[Mars2]

I think slowone11 is using the LO400 for his build.

People commonly call the JH5 a K03 because the K03 is the closest competitor turbo from BorgWarner. At least the OP got the IHI part correct, so he was on the right track.

Exactly most people call it the IHI K03. Even if K03 is B&W
I will check Loba LO400.
This van need lot of torque down low as it is very heavy and it will seat in 2000rpm to 3000 rpm cruising at 75 to 100mph. (very long gearing for economic)
Wich is close to our speed limit in France. So I need torque in that range to overpass. Don't want to have to kick down one gear each time I need to pass.

[Zach L]

The expensive part of what you want is not the turbo... the expensive part is building the engine to handle the large amount of torque you want. Pistons, crank, rods are all necessary to handle that immense torque. You also have the cost of a clutch kit, fuel system upgrades, intercooler, full exhaust, intake, drivetrain bushings, etc.

Once you add up all costs you'll need, it doesn't matter about the cost of just the turbo. Go with the one that you think is best for your needs.

[b6Hate4]

The expensive part of what you want is not the turbo... the expensive part is building the engine to handle the large amount of torque you want. Pistons, crank, rods are all necessary to handle that immense torque. You also have the cost of a clutch kit, fuel system upgrades, intercooler, full exhaust, intake, drivetrain bushings, etc.

Once you add up all costs you'll need, it doesn't matter about the cost of just the turbo. Go with the one that you think is best for your needs.

Yup. $2,500 can turn to $10,000 real quick with turbo builds.

[Mars2]

Yup. $2,500 can turn to $10,000 real quick with turbo builds.

I already got a few part on my van:

-Wagner EVO2 intercooler http://www.wagner-tuning.uk/200001067.html
-Loba HP20.2 HPFP 190 bar capable. if you check it's the only fuel upgrade BB do to that 600NM Van. https://www.facebook.com/LOBA.Motors...55512831156520
- full stainless 70mm exhaust. I will for sure need new down pipe with new turbo.
Those 2.0 TSI 4Motion van like mine come OEM with the DQ500 dsg gearbox like TTRS quoted for 650Nm ( 480lb-ft) So plenty of space their for the 600NM (443 lb-ft) torque.
I will first run it without building the engine and then if break build one up.
- big brake
- KW V3 coilover
- OZ ultralegerra 19 with 255/40 Michelin PSS
- H&R sway bar
- PU bushes

So don't worry for the full conversion price I just ask what turbo is capable of that.
Until now the K04/EFR hybride is my only guess.

Here is the list of what BB change for 24000€ from their website ( No engine build up):


Level 5: about 294 kW / 400 PS / 600 Nm
B & B Special turbocharger
B & B High Pressure Pump
B & B high-performance intercooler
B & B Sport catalyst
B & B Spezial exhaust downpipe
B & B sport exhaust system from turbo
B & B Air intake system
B & B Special Oil Cooling System
custom electronics / control unit change
Optimizing air induction and airflow
Alteration of torque control
Adapting the transmission electronics *
motor coordination
Assembly incl. Preliminary and Enddiagnoseprüfung
Adapting the DSG DQ500 shift stages with means Launch Control (on models with DSG gearbox)
* At automatic models, the transmission electronics is additionally adapted to the higher torque to increase the efficiency of the engine power increase and harmonize the handling characteristics

[Zach L]

I will first run it without building the engine and then if break build one up

I'm very surprised to see the B&B kit does not include connecting rods. Rods are usually the first thing to fail when you have that much torque at such low RPMs. I would at least upgrade the rods. Not too expensive either. Integrated Engineering makes high quality parts and their drop-in rods for the TSI are only $450 - http://www.performancebyie.com/integ...n-rods-vw-audi

[Mars2]

I'm very surprised to see the B&B kit does not include connecting rods. Rods are usually the first thing to fail when you have that much torque at such low RPMs. I would at least upgrade the rods. Not too expensive either. Integrated Engineering makes high quality parts and their drop-in rods for the TSI are only $450 - http://www.performancebyie.com/integ...n-rods-vw-audi

My Engine code is CJKA wich make me think it's they took the audi B8 Flexfuel 180 hp CFKA that we have in Europe as a base for the Van engine. Just one letter different.
I could be totally wrong on that one.
The flexfuel B8 engine code's are CFKA CPMA and CPMB
Those engine code are not listed in EI website. Do you think those have different rode or same as other B8 engine code.

[Zach L]

My Engine code is CJKA wich make me think it's they took the audi B8 Flexfuel 180 hp CFKA that we have in Europe as a base for the Van engine. Just one letter different.
I could be totally wrong on that one.
The flexfuel B8 engine code's are CFKA CPMA and CPMB
Those engine code are not listed in EI website. Do you think those have different rode or same as other B8 engine code.

All 2.0 TSI will use the same rods regardless of the exact code or vehicle the engine is in.