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    Trying something with headlights. PHIL LOOK PLEASE!

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    Hello everyone. I just came across a set of D3S HID projectors that I would like to retro fit into my modified spec-d headlight (I know I know but I re did the LEDS and working on the projectors so they are pretty much just the base with everything internally changed).

    I will figure out a way to do the conversion on the mechanical side but I was wondering if anyone has done a halogen to D3S. I know people have done the D1S but I am not sure if there are any other differences and such. I will be doing more research but it seems to be the same conversion as the OEM lights unless I am mistaken.


    Anyway I am trying to go from a stock halogen projector to a D3S projector. I do not care if I use D3S bulbs or an aftermarket HID kit but I do not know what bulbs would match up.

    Any help ?
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    D1S and D3s bulbs are similar so no real issues here
    You might struggle on the projector integration

    Phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by fly300kts View Post
    D1S and D3s bulbs are similar so no real issues here
    You might struggle on the projector integration

    Phil
    I found this which concerned me.

    Currently, the factory Xenon HID market is divided into 4 bulb types (D1, D2, D3, D4) in which they are then divided into 3 other subtypes (S, R, C). The bulb types are not interchangeable. Either the physical connectors are different, or the voltage required is different. D1 and D3 types look physically identical, and D2 and D4 types looks identical. The subtypes differ slightly. S and R bulbs are not interchangeable, but the C (sometimes referred to as 'common') will replace both S and R bulbs. S bulbs are generally found in vehicles with projector housings, while R bulbs are found in the few vehicles with reflector housings. The C type bulbs can physically replace the R type bulbs, but do not have the ceramic sheild to limit the light from the bulb.

    D1 and D3 bulbs: Aside from being just a bulb, these bulbs are easily distinguished by the metal box attached to the actual glass bulb itself. The metal box is an 'igniter' which is generally built as a seperate piece in D2 and D4 systems. These bulb types are much more expensive than its D2 / D4 counterparts for this reason (and also because the other bulb type is more common). There are 2 main differences between D1 and D3 bulbs. First is the voltage required to operate the bulb: D1 bulbs operate at 85V while D3 bulbs operate at 42V. Secondly, D3 bulbs are newer more environmentally friendly versions of D1 bulbs; D3 bulbs are mercury free. Because of these differences, D1 and D3 bulbs cannot be interchanged UNLESS their ballasts are replaced with the corresponding bulbs (you cannot mix components from 2 systems together).

    So basically D1/D3 are the same shape, different power, as well as D2/D4 are the same shape, different power. So as long as you use the same components = no issue. So I can get D1 or D3 and be fine with matching power supplies.

    The projector integration will be a bit tough but I got the spec-d headlights for crazy cheap so if I break them I won't be to upset. I still have my stock halogen(with retrofitted HID)s to replace them while I hack them up.

    Are there any plug and play HID kits that can replace the D1/D3 spot? I cannot seem to find a solid answer. That would be easier for now if the HID will reflect properly (focus and length) and not glare up.
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    Is this possible....


    I have read you can splice a H7 ballast (output cord) with a D1S cord.

    I have h7 HID ballast with D3S projectors.. can I do this?


    Stock Halogen plug > h7 hid ballast > H7/D1S cord spliced > D1S bulb/ignitor > D1S projector.

    Will this work? Or am I trying to hard to save a bit of money and should just get the D3S or D1S kit and call it a day?

    I just want to be able to run these projectors as the ones I have stock in the "custom" heads are awful.
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