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    So i recently got a job making carbon fiber, and i was thinking about making some CF fenders for B5s using the facelifted fenders, Not only that but interior trim made from CF, I was just wanting to know what the market is here for that sorta stuff, The A4 b5 forum asked for several things and im just wanting some opinions before i commit to molds. who would want CF fenders? "I like getting a feeling for the number of people wanting to buy the items before i commit, The fenders will be made to High endurance/light weight, for those who were wondering 12k Twill, Double layered in separate directions to make it as strong as possible.
    Thanks for taking time to read through this jibberish :P
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    Would the fenders be 100% OEM in proportions, or would wider or increased flare fenders be an option? Just tossing ideas around...

    Also, very cool stuff, and thanks for sharing. I would be interested in following your process from idea to finished production product. Observing talented people use their skills always fascinates me.

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    Engine covers would be nice


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    There was a company that used to make CF fenders however stopped and I would assume due to price point and people not really buying them. Our fenders tend to be light overall. If you can do trunk and hood I believe you may have a market. After o-carbon went to shit I don't believe there is anyone else doing interior CF trim.
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    If you do decide to make CF fenders, make a mold from b5 rs4 widebody fenders, not s4

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    Im in for a set for widebody (perhaps larger than rs4 if you can) if the price isnt super duper insane.

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    Interior trim would be sweet but I would imagine price wise would be at or above what ocarbon was.

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    price for any parts would actually be very affordable he said on the a4 forum. less than half the price of the other companies that made these same pieces
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Yuppie's Avatar
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    This platform is driven by price. If low then there is a market.
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    If you make CF engine covers, I think you would see decent sales on them. Make a batch of 20 and I bet you sell all of them @ $250 a pop.
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    I am partial because I have an avant, but a carbon hatch wing would be cool.

    I think engine covers make the most sense due to the multiple cars that use the 2.7t power plant and those should be straightforward. Everyone wants 300+ for carbon rs4 covers so if you can come in anywhere under that price point you could be competitive.


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    I would be interested in widebody carbon fenders

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    Id be down with some decent priced engine covers and interior trim.


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    Interior trim pieces, hood, fenders, mirror caps, or anything else

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    I like hoods. For the B6 I feel the CF hoods don't look all that great. I really like how the B7 hoods look.
    http://www.audituningmag.com/audi-b7-carbon-fiber-hood/
    I just don't like the middle scoop. I would preffer it with just the two small vents on both sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB5 View Post
    I like hoods. For the B6 I feel the CF hoods don't look all that great. I really like how the B7 hoods look.
    http://www.audituningmag.com/audi-b7-carbon-fiber-hood/
    I just don't like the middle scoop. I would preffer it with just the two small vents on both sides.
    geeeet outta here, stop taking the attention off the B5 platform lol


    Quote Originally Posted by jpurre View Post
    If you make CF engine covers, I think you would see decent sales on them. Make a batch of 20 and I bet you sell all of them @ $250 a pop.
    This would be a good idea as their is a larger cross-platform market for them. If there is enough profit in them, it could help offset/keep the costs lower on some of the smaller batch niche items too

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    Quote Originally Posted by getslideways View Post
    geeeet outta here, stop taking the attention off the B5 platform lol
    oops!!! sorry about that

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    I would be interested in the interior parts.

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    I would be interested to see trim parts as im currently working on putting mine back together haha. Trunks might be a hard one to make but would proboly sell decent depending on price. Or carbon fiber mirror housings if thats possiable.


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    Well anyways the interior trim pieces would just be wrapped in cf because i would have to charge just to get the oem pieces, fenders are just oem, due to a chance of being sued i cant really fabricate anything because if something broke because of a design flaw and hurt someone i could be sued and ide prefer not to.

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    I can make copies of existing pieces so that if theres a design flaw i cannot be blamed for it, but every idea is looked into! :)

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    Senior Member Three Rings Radskull1's Avatar
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    Engine covers are something i can do but i would need the original to replicate u will recieve both your original and the new back withing 3 weeks, after the carbon has had time to cure :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radskull1 View Post
    Well anyways the interior trim pieces would just be wrapped in cf because i would have to charge just to get the oem pieces, fenders are just oem, due to a chance of being sued i cant really fabricate anything because if something broke because of a design flaw and hurt someone i could be sued and ide prefer not to.
    I'll sign a waiver releasing you from all liability. Without risk, there is no real reward.

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    buy some oem rs4 fenders to copy and you'll kill it with a decent mark up and you can sell the fenders after molds

    i have a few ? for you on some stuff i want to wrap , ill pm you .
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    I'm down for some! I believe awe and gmg used to do them. It'd be nice to see some being made again! I'd definitely be in!
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    I'd be down for some interior trim.

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    Alright guys and gals, ill be making a run of wrapped and fabricated trim pieces as a test when i get time from work "they wont let me leave!" Lol anyways i believe wrapping the oem pieces for trim would be the best option since its the look not the weight reduction people want so see you soon!

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    Ok got a few trim pieces wrapped really didnt look much different than if i made a mold and such, the only issue i found was getting them to shine, after some sanding and buffing they turned out quite nice,only made 2 due to time restrictions. I did however get my work area ready to mass trim pieces and dash/shifter surrounds if interested shoot me an email at [email protected] normal trim pieces wrapped start at 150 and go up depending on if u want surrounds or such wrapped, knocking off a few $ here and there to keep costs down for u guys :) thanks for reading and possibly being a future customer!

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    Also if you are interested in engine covers i can make them, but i would need the covers to make a mold and i only have a4 b5 covers. Ide gladly do some barganing to make some molds :)

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    Sending you a email . I have a full set of b6 belt line trim and shifter surround I'm interested in getting done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radskull1 View Post
    Well anyways the interior trim pieces would just be wrapped in cf because i would have to charge just to get the oem pieces, fenders are just oem, due to a chance of being sued i cant really fabricate anything because if something broke because of a design flaw and hurt someone i could be sued and ide prefer not to.
    you could be sued even if it's an exact replica. Form a corporation, don't be guilty of negligence or one of the other conditions that permits 'piercing the veil', and you should be okay (this is not legal advice just dillusional ramblings).

    Edit: omitted specific example as a courtesy to the company that deserves none -- ongoing safety concern I'm trying not to sue somebody over

    You just gotta be willing to take some risk.
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    Email sent. Looking forward to see what comes of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radskull1 View Post
    Also if you are interested in engine covers i can make them, but i would need the covers to make a mold and i only have a4 b5 covers. Ide gladly do some barganing to make some molds :)
    I'll sacrifice my covers for a discount :)


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    Can you make sunroof delete cap , for b5's

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    Quote Originally Posted by tasinb5s4 View Post
    Can you make sunroof delete cap , for b5's
    In for sunroof delete cap !

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    Quote Originally Posted by vavJETTAw36 View Post
    I'll sacrifice my covers for a discount :)


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    U will get them back i use a low heat mold kit that wont harm the originals ill send them with a carbon set with a big THANK YOU lol

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    Senior Member Three Rings Radskull1's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by tasinb5s4 View Post
    In for sunroof delete cap !
    Im not super sure on how to make them because ive never done one before :/

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    IM DEFINITELY FOLLOWING THIS!!! I have a set of oem rs4 engine covers...oem carbon fiber...idk if it would make a better replica.....definitely in for hood be nice to have some vents in it as well...damn engine heats up the entire neighborhood hahaha...id also like to see some fenders...much like getslideways...I would like to see finished products and processes
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