Allroad A9 USA Configurator

**archrenov8** · 09-06-2016 05:21 AM

The 2017 USA Allroad site is finally up.

**Psy Wagon** · 09-06-2016 08:04 AM

just saw that! finally!

https://www.audiusa.com/models/audi-...road/2017.html

**Fantasiamon** · 09-06-2016 11:42 AM

Oh snap. I know what I'm doing after lunch.

Archrenov-

Are you turning in your JSW this year for a 2017 model or are you waiting for a 2018? I'm debating on waiting on a 2018 since I can basically drive the jsw for another year with zero depreciation based in my current mileage and average yearly mileage. Curious if you've considered the same? I believe you had you Wagen a few years earlier than My 2013 though so I'm sure that is a factor for you.

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**Jimminez@Nemesis** · 09-06-2016 12:51 PM

Florett silver, Glacier white , Manhattan grey, and Methos black are the four color options that allow for full body paint, if anyone is interested.

Roughly a $4000 premium over the A4 (in Canada).

**Fantasiamon** · 09-06-2016 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Jimminez

Florett silver, Glacier white , Manhattan grey, and Methos black are the four color options that allow for full body paint, if anyone is interested.

Roughly a $4000 premium over the A4 (in Canada).

I was just swearing at Audi because they don't offer Brilliant Black in full body paint (which makes zero sense). Guess I will have to have it done outside of Audi as I don't want a metallic black paint.

**Jimminez@Nemesis** · 09-06-2016 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Fantasiamon

I was just swearing at Audi because they don't offer Brilliant Black in full body paint (which makes zero sense). Guess I will have to have it done outside of Audi as I don't want a metallic black paint.

I don't think they offered non-metallic full body in the current gen either but I can't tell if for the new gen the fender flares will actually match texture or not. Previous gen had a matte finish as I recall and not smooth like the body. Still not sure which I'd prefer, painted or not. When I was shopping around a couple of years ago and considering the allroad, I didn't like the unpainted look but now have gotten to like it depending on the body color.

**bakedziti** · 09-06-2016 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by Jimminez

Florett silver, Glacier white , Manhattan grey, and Methos black are the four color options that allow for full body paint, if anyone is interested.

Roughly a $4000 premium over the A4 (in Canada).

Which is interesting, because I swear the Gotland Green is in the preview image as full paint, but it isn't one of the 4 color options. I do wonder if the exclusives would be eligible for the full paint option.

Originally Posted by Fantasiamon

I was just swearing at Audi because they don't offer Brilliant Black in full body paint (which makes zero sense). Guess I will have to have it done outside of Audi as I don't want a metallic black paint.

Pretty sure the B8s only had 3 color options for full paint (GW; FS; BB) due to the lower cladding requiring a different paint code to match to the body. Not sure about the B9s however.

**Fantasiamon** · 09-06-2016 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Jimminez

I don't think they offered non-metallic full body in the current gen either but I can't tell if for the new gen the fender flares will actually match texture or not. Previous gen had a matte finish as I recall and not smooth like the body. Still not sure which I'd prefer, painted or not. When I was shopping around a couple of years ago and considering the allroad, I didn't like the unpainted look but now have gotten to like it depending on the body color.

I believe you're correct in regards to the B8 Paint Finish options.
If Audi actually uses a dark gray or black cladding on the Brilliant Black B9 configuration (which looks like they are) instead of the tonal light grey they used on the B8 for the Brilliant black, than the visual effect should be better. Could probably have the cladding professionally vinyl wrapped a gloss black as well.

**MuffinMan_DL** · 09-06-2016 08:11 PM

Honestly I really don't get the appeal of a station wagon?

**Q5 Bob** · 09-06-2016 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by MuffinMan_DL

Honestly I really don't get the appeal of a station wagon?

You're not alone, that's why they don't sell very well here in the U.S.

On the other hand they can offer better ride, handling and fuel economy that a CUV or SUV. Many smaller wagons have nearly as much capacity as a CUV and some of them (Audi & BMW IMO) look cooler than a CUV (subjective).

**archrenov8** · 09-06-2016 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Q5 Bob

You're not alone, that's why they don't sell very well here in the U.S.

On the other hand they can offer better ride, handling and fuel economy that a CUV or SUV. Many smaller wagons have nearly as much capacity as a CUV and some of them (Audi & BMW IMO) look cooler than a CUV (subjective).

The appeal for me, being as I am 5'-6" tall, is the ability to load bikes and kayaks on the roof without a step stool. Makes a huge difference. The interior room is the same as most SUVs.

**archrenov8** · 09-06-2016 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Fantasiamon

Oh snap. I know what I'm doing after lunch.

Archrenov-

Are you turning in your JSW this year for a 2017 model or are you waiting for a 2018? I'm debating on waiting on a 2018 since I can basically drive the jsw for another year with zero depreciation based in my current mileage and average yearly mileage. Curious if you've considered the same? I believe you had you Wagen a few years earlier than My 2013 though so I'm sure that is a factor for you.

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I went from a '11 Avant to a '14 JSW on a 3 year lease. Two years in now, and I can get out without penalty, with about $3500, plus the other $1k. And I can have all the niceties that I miss, and AWD. I will wait until November for the Season of Audi promo, and likely order then. I should have the money from VW by then as well.

**Psy Wagon** · 09-07-2016 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by MuffinMan_DL

Honestly I really don't get the appeal of a station wagon?

And I don't get the appeal of a sedan. Most sedans would look so much better with a longer roofline in wagon form. Not to mention more room.

That said, I am considering a lightly used A8L sedan (V8) because I predict I won't like the lack of power in the Allroad.

**MuffinMan_DL** · 09-07-2016 11:28 AM

^ your messing with me, right? I guess it takes all kinds...

**Jimminez@Nemesis** · 09-07-2016 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Psy Wagon

And I don't get the appeal of a sedan. Most sedans would look so much better with a longer roofline in wagon form. Not to mention more room.

That said, I am considering a lightly used A8L sedan (V8) because I predict I won't like the lack of power in the Allroad.

I had an A4 loaner last week and was pleasantly surprised by the drive train mated to the S-tronic. Does it fell like a B8S4 with similar tranny, no, but I wouldn't discount it until you try it out.

**Fantasiamon** · 09-07-2016 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Psy Wagon

And I don't get the appeal of a sedan. Most sedans would look so much better with a longer roofline in wagon form. Not to mention more room.

This guy gets it.

I too never understood the appeal of a Sedan over its wagon counterpart. Why wouldn't you want more cargo space, access to the rear from inside the car and better lines all around? To each their own I suppose though, eh MuffinMan?

However I do think there is a fine line between some extra cargo room and everyone pointlessly driving SUV's. The transition from Wagons to SUV's in the US has been (in my opinion) fueled by the "bigger is better" US consumer phenomenon and the realization by car manufacturers that they can charge US buyers more money for a jacked up monstrosity that handles like garbage and has craptastic fuel consumption. The only SUV that ever made any sense in my opinion was the Chevy Suburban, for families that have a ton of kids and pets and have no desire to drive a minivan. All these suburban moms pointlessly driving huge SUV's around are actually a danger on the road - especially when they smash into regular sized vehicles.

Now back to the topic at hand - the B9 Allroad! I noticed in the online configurator that the US orange reflectors have been removed from the headlight housings for the B9. Will make removing/covering much easier than dealing with removal and replacement of the entire headlight housings (like on the previous gen).

**Psy Wagon** · 09-07-2016 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by MuffinMan_DL

^ your messing with me, right? I guess it takes all kinds...

So you are allowed to dislike wagons but I cannot dislike sedans? That is messing with you? Just trying to explain the other side. How well do SUVs/CUVs sell in the US? Very wagon-esque to me.

Originally Posted by Jimminez

I had an A4 loaner last week and was pleasantly surprised by the drive train mated to the S-tronic. Does it fell like a B8S4 with similar tranny, no, but I wouldn't discount it until you try it out.

Will-do. Definitely something about the A8 interior size that is just spaceship-like. It is a feel you don't get in the A4/A6 but always open to options!

**Psy Wagon** · 09-07-2016 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Fantasiamon

This guy gets it.

I too never understood the appeal of a Sedan over its wagon counterpart. Why wouldn't you want more cargo space, access to the rear from inside the car and better lines all around? To each their own I suppose though, eh MuffinMan?

However I do think there is a fine line between some extra cargo room and everyone pointlessly driving SUV's. The transition from Wagons to SUV's in the US has been (in my opinion) fueled by the "bigger is better" US consumer phenomenon and the realization by car manufacturers that they can charge US buyers more money for a jacked up monstrosity that handles like garbage and has craptastic fuel consumption. The only SUV that ever made any sense in my opinion was the Chevy Suburban, for families that have a ton of kids and pets and have no desire to drive a minivan. All these suburban moms pointlessly driving huge SUV's around are actually a danger on the road - especially when they smash into regular sized vehicles.

Now back to the topic at hand - the B9 Allroad! I noticed in the online configurator that the US orange reflectors have been removed from the headlight housings for the B9. Will make removing/covering much easier than dealing with removal and replacement of the entire headlight housings (like on the previous gen).

Thank you! The few, the proud, the weird wagon people of North America.

**Fantasiamon** · 09-07-2016 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by archrenov8

I went from a '11 Avant to a '14 JSW on a 3 year lease. Two years in now, and I can get out without penalty, with about $3500, plus the other $1k. And I can have all the niceties that I miss, and AWD. I will wait until November for the Season of Audi promo, and likely order then. I should have the money from VW by then as well.

Nice. Looks more likely that I will end up waiting for a 2018 model. Just makes more sense in my situation I think.

**Fantasiamon** · 09-07-2016 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Psy Wagon

Thank you! The few, the proud, the weird wagon people of North America.

Fist bump. #wagonlife

**archrenov8** · 09-07-2016 08:02 PM

I am so with you. My last sedan was an '86 Audi 5000, followed by a '91 SAAB 9000 hatchback. After a few SUVs, I basically only consider wagons, and always wonder why anyone would settle for the confines of a sedan. Just doesn't make sense- so inflexible. But maybe its that I demand s much more versatility in my vehicles than a sedan could ever offer. A hatchback comes close, if you can ride with the rear open, but that doesn't work for vacations with gear and the dogs.

**Fantasiamon** · 09-07-2016 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by archrenov8

I am so with you. My last sedan was an '86 Audi 5000, followed by a '91 SAAB 9000 hatchback. After a few SUVs, I basically only consider wagons, and always wonder why anyone would settle for the confines of a sedan. Just doesn't make sense- so inflexible. But maybe its that I demand s much more versatility in my vehicles than a sedan could ever offer. A hatchback comes close, if you can ride with the rear open, but that doesn't work for vacations with gear and the dogs.

I've only ever owned wagons. (And 1 truck).
'86 GMC Sierra Classic (used)
'96 Subaru Outback (used)
'04 Saab 95T Wagon
'13 VW Sportwagen

**dbuxton13** · 09-08-2016 02:52 AM

It is pointless arguing over esthetics... this is all purely personal opinion and tastes. I prefer the sedan form. Others prefer the wagon form. I personally have no need to haul anything around in my cars except people. I have another vehicle better suited for hauling stuff around, and I don't have a daily-driver requirement to take a refrigerator and dogs with me in the back to work.

**archrenov8** · 09-08-2016 09:55 PM

Well, as an architect, I often find myself throwing samples, sometimes bulky, in the back, or picking up special materials for a project, so I am frequently (like at east once a week) folding one or both rear seats forward, and occasionally riding with the rear gate open.

**JD23** · 09-09-2016 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by archrenov8

After a few SUVs, I basically only consider wagons, and always wonder why anyone would settle for the confines of a sedan.

1) I rarely need the storage space provided by a wagon.
2) I think that wagons are generally uglier than sedans.
3) Wagons are heavier.
4) Wagons are normally several thousand dollars more expensive.

Most people seem to have tremendous difficulty understanding that their situation and preferences are not necessarily representative of those of the general population.

**Fantasiamon** · 09-09-2016 09:29 PM

I almost always need the storage space provided by a wagon.
2) I think that sedans look better with a long roof.
3) Wagons are a bit heavier but meh.
4) Wagons are normally several thousand dollars more expensive because they're better.

Most people seem to have tremendous difficulty understanding that their situation and preferences are not necessarily representative of those of another portion of the population.

**JD23** · 09-10-2016 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Fantasiamon

I almost always need the storage space provided by a wagon.
2) I think that sedans look better with a long roof.
3) Wagons are a bit heavier but meh.
4) Wagons are normally several thousand dollars more expensive because they're better.

Most people seem to have tremendous difficulty understanding that their situation and preferences are not necessarily representative of those of another portion of the population.

I didn't argue that wagons are not useful to anyone; I was providing an example as to why some people may "settle for the confines of a sedan." The small but vocal group of American wagon extremists is even more sensitive than the shrinking number of MT enthusiasts.

**Fantasiamon** · 09-10-2016 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by JD23

I didn't argue that wagons are not useful to anyone; I was providing an example as to why some people may "settle for the confines of a sedan." The small but vocal group of American wagon extremists is even more sensitive than the shrinking number of MT enthusiasts.

Not sensitive, vocal. We have to be given we're fighting to be heard and fighting to receive options from manufacturers.

**Psy Wagon** · 09-12-2016 08:45 AM

Nobody is trying to convert anyone. But we are going to say something if people come into a WAGON thread and say "I just don't get the appeal of wagons."

I don't care for the Q5 but I would never go into a Q5 thread and say "What's the appeal of a Q5?" I will never understand some people's behavior.

**archrenov8** · 09-12-2016 12:20 PM

I am in the UK on vacation for another 10 days, and on this side of the pond, wagons (estates, as they are called here) seem to be more popular than sedans (saloons). And there are so many choices from just about every manufacturer. It is wagon heaven.

**Gusman1** · 09-16-2016 01:52 PM

When will the Allroad show up at dealers?

**Ezmendriz** · 09-16-2016 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Gusman1

When will the Allroad show up at dealers?

I think they arrive to the US this week.

**Gusman1** · 09-16-2016 06:55 PM

Oh nice, sooner than I thought.

**Fantasiamon** · 09-16-2016 08:49 PM

I heard end of Oct in dealerships but that was back in the end of Aug when I was told that.

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**Gusman1** · 09-19-2016 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Fantasiamon

I heard end of Oct in dealerships but that was back in the end of Aug when I was told that.

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Was at my local dealer over the weekend and the GM said they should be arriving in 1-2 weeks

**RudyH** · 09-19-2016 11:36 AM

Argh, another reason to hate CUV / SUV's. The allroad is going to be as much as the S4 when it comes out without the finer upgrades in the S4...

Almost $60k Cdn for the Allroad I want ( Technik + Manhattan full body + Sport package). You can get a SQ5 for that price, including the 100hp performance boost...hopefuilly one comes up in 2-3 yrs off lease...

**Fantasiamon** · 09-19-2016 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Gusman1

Was at my local dealer over the weekend and the GM said they should be arriving in 1-2 weeks

Going to have to start calling local dealers soon so I can go take a look.

**Fantasiamon** · 09-20-2016 02:14 PM

Update: Audi of Manhattan has two that got delivered on Thursday. I'm going to swing by there this week and take a spin. They are premium plus trim w/tech package. Will post pix. Request anything you want to see and I will try and get.

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**Psy Wagon** · 09-20-2016 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Fantasiamon

Update: Audi of Manhattan has two that got delivered on Thursday. I'm going to swing by there this week and take a spin. They are premium plus trim w/tech package. Will post pix. Request anything you want to see and I will try and get.

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Interested in rear seat legroom and pics of the rear center armrest down. Thank you.