Sway bar question

[Logtec]

Hello!

Does anybody have experience of upgrading only the rear sway bar? I'm thinking ordering 034motorsport rear sway bar or should I go for the more expensive Eurocode front and rear together?https://store.034motorsport.com/034m...a7-s7-rs7.html

[Kevin1]

I am very happy with my Eurocode sway bars (front and rear). They made a big improvement in the cornering, while not impacting ride quality.

[SharkNardo]

No experience with 034 sways, I have the F/R Eurocode sways and end links. Highly recommend the product. IMHO, I would not upgrade the rear sway bar only. Do it right and do F/R.

[AS6]

I have a the 034 rear sway bar, I'm very happy with it.

Cheers
AS6

[ntsantos]

I have the eurocode f/r bars with the 034 endlinks. I was at 034 shop begging them to make a rear sway about 5 months ago, and they didn't even say they were working on it. So i got the eurocodes. If I had to do it again I would go all 034. You'll save a few hundred bucks with the same performance. The front bar doesn't add much since you're going to want to adjust it to the soft setting anyway.

Go 034 all the way.

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[QuaTTrings]

I was in the same dilemma as you. I think both options and both companies are wins. I have some Eurocode parts on my car.. The reason I went with the 034 (rear only) is because I didn't want to increase understeer, even slightly. I also like the 034 billet machined brackets.

Hello!

Does anybody have experience of upgrading only the rear sway bar? I'm thinking ordering 034motorsport rear sway bar or should I go for the more expensive Eurocode front and rear together?https://store.034motorsport.com/034m...a7-s7-rs7.html

[zoomzoom!]

I don't see a 034 front sway on the website...I think this thread got off-kilter on that.

https://store.034motorsport.com/audi...-steering.html

[AS6]

034 rear sway bar :-

https://store.034motorsport.com/034m...a7-s7-rs7.html

[zoomzoom!]

Yes, the link to the rear sway was already included in the first post in this thread. What's in contention is the existence of a 034 front sway.

[AS6]

Yes, the link to the rear sway was already included in the first post in this thread. What's in contention is the existence of a 034 front sway.

Yeah there is no front sway bar, you have to read to full description of the rear bar as to why there is no front. All to do with comfort and under steer etc.

Cheers
AS6

[zoomzoom!]

Innnnnnteresting.

Not that anyone tracks their C7, but I'd be interested to hear what others who "know what they're talking about" regarding suspension setup think about this (I certainly don't know)

[AS6]

Innnnnnteresting.

Not that anyone tracks their C7, but I'd be interested to hear what others who "know what they're talking about" regarding suspension setup think about this (I certainly don't know)

I don't know either but I do know my car has significantly less body roll and the ride quality is just the same. I'm happy with it.

Cheers
AS6

[stingvb]

I was in the same dilemma as you. I think both options and both companies are wins. I have some Eurocode parts on my car.. The reason I went with the 034 (rear only) is because I didn't want to increase understeer, even slightly. I also like the 034 billet machined brackets.

+1
I did the 034 rear sway and end links and it made a huge difference with the body roll. I also really like the machined brackets with the zerk fittings.

[Logtec]

Thanks for the answers, going 034 rear only.

[SharkNardo]

I have the eurocode f/r bars with the 034 endlinks. I was at 034 shop begging them to make a rear sway about 5 months ago, and they didn't even say they were working on it. So i got the eurocodes. If I had to do it again I would go all 034. You'll save a few hundred bucks with the same performance. The front bar doesn't add much since you're going to want to adjust it to the soft setting anyway.

Go 034 all the way.

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I was in the same dilemma as you. I think both options and both companies are wins. I have some Eurocode parts on my car.. The reason I went with the 034 (rear only) is because I didn't want to increase understeer, even slightly. I also like the 034 billet machined brackets.

Yeah there is no front sway bar, you have to read to full description of the rear bar as to why there is no front. All to do with comfort and under steer etc.

Cheers
AS6

Wrong. Eurocode front ARB made my front end more planted and flatter in corners without increase in understeer. Comfort not affected.

[Kevin1]

Wrong. Eurocode front ARB made my front end more planted and flatter in corners without increase in understeer. Comfort not affected.

Plus 1!

[jrsAudiA6]

Plus 1!

Plus 1!!

[QuaTTrings]

Good to know. Eurocode uses a thicker 25.5 mm rear sway bar whereas 034 uses 23.8 mm and seems to think it's unnecessary to touch the front besides the end-links. The comparatively thicker rear of the EC ARB compensates for the thicker front - but - is it necessary? Two different approaches to better chassis tuning. They both seem to accomplish the same excellent end result.

Wrong. Eurocode front ARB made my front end more planted and flatter in corners without increase in understeer. Comfort not affected.

[AS6]

If you go to thick on your sways you effectively lose your independent suspension as it joins both sides together, you might aswell have a sold rear axel ala old mustang suspension. Regardless I'm very happy with just my upgraded rear bar.

Cheers
AS6

[Kevin1]

If you go to thick on your sways you effectively lose your independent suspension as it joins both sides together, you might aswell have a sold rear axel ala old mustang suspension. Regardless I'm very happy with just my upgraded rear bar.

Cheers
AS6

Not my experience.

[SharkNardo]

If you go to thick on your sways you effectively lose your independent suspension as it joins both sides together, you might aswell have a sold rear axel ala old mustang suspension. Regardless I'm very happy with just my upgraded rear bar.

Cheers
AS6

That's just silly.

[MadAboutCars]

He's actually not wrong. The stiffer the sway bar the less independent the suspension becomes. That's why the car has less roll, because the force on one side of the car is transfered to the opposite side. That's why Audi has developed the active sway bar.

[Kevin1]

You need to be on an extremely rough road, like a third world country, to notice a difference.

[goliath1]

You need to be on an extremely rough road, like a third world country, to notice a difference.

Or any northeast state in the winter!!

[achan]

I noticed the increased stiffness with the eurocode sway bar and end link install but it's nothing extreme. If anything running the suspension in auto mode is a pretty good balance for crappy roads. The air suspension really does a good job of soaking up crappy roads

[AS6]

That's just silly.

Haha, yeah very silly

[QuaTTrings]

Please explain why it's silly or very silly?

Seems his point was that at some level the thickness may be going too far. There must be a reason why neither Audi, 034, or EC went with 40 or 50mm thickness for their ARBs? Everything is a compromise, no?

[stingvb]

Good to know. Eurocode uses a thicker 25.5 mm rear sway bar whereas 034 uses 23.8 mm and seems to think it's unnecessary to touch the front besides the end-links. The comparatively thicker rear of the EC ARB compensates for the thicker front - but - is it necessary? Two different approaches to better chassis tuning. They both seem to accomplish the same excellent end result.

I believe the reason for the difference in thickness is that the Eurocodes are hallow and the 034 is solid. Two slightly different approaches to the same problem.

[AS6]

Please explain why it's silly or very silly?

Seems his point was that at some level the thickness may be going too far. There must be a reason why neither Audi, 034, or EC went with 40 or 50mm thickness for their ARBs? Everything is a compromise, no?

That was me talking about the suspension+sways
I was responding to the post "that's just silly"
And yes that was exactly my point.

Cheers
AS6

[TSpoolin]

I went Eurocode front and rear sways, with their endlinks. I have both bars on stiff and I'm very satisfied with how the car feels now. Much less body roll and better steering IMO.

[AS6]

I don't think either approach is bad or wrong, some people prefer better handling some prefer more comfort, some try to strike a balance. Different strokes

Cheers
AS6

[QuaTTrings]

Ahh I missed that. I was responding in part to your original post too. I agree with your last balance statement. Everything is a compromise of some sort on these cars. Both approaches seem to work very well. Happy that a simple mod (either approach) can make these boats so much better!

[AS6]

Ahh I missed that. I was responding in part to your original post too. I agree with your last balance statement. Everything is a compromise of some sort on these cars. Both approaches seem to work very well. Happy that a simple mod (either approach) can make these boats so much better!

Haha, boat is right. I still miss the agility of my S4

Cheers
AS6

[AS6]

Speaking of my old S4



There she is Black Beauty


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[Kevin1]

Or any northeast state in the winter!!

Very funny. Living in the NYC area, I understand the comparison.

[rnp614]

To those of you with the F / R sways and end links how do you like it? How is it on crappy pavement? When on comfort is it still nice and smooth? Don’t want to make the family sick in my cruiser. How many settings does the sway have?

[OlyS6]

To those of you with the F / R sways and end links how do you like it? How is it on crappy pavement? When on comfort is it still nice and smooth? Don’t want to make the family sick in my cruiser. How many settings does the sway have?

Still perfect in comfort. If anything, your family will be happy as they won't be thrown around in the cabin as you take hard turns, as it nearly eliminates the pitch/roll aspect of driving our cars. The bars have 2 different bolt-hole settings, as I recall (stiff and less stiff).

I laugh because my wife still instinctively grabs the door handles if I take a hard turn, and then it turns out that she doesn't even feel it.

You definitely feel crappy pavement harshly in dynamic mode, but once you put the suspension in comfort that goes away.

[rnp614]

Still perfect in comfort. If anything, your family will be happy as they won't be thrown around in the cabin as you take hard turns, as it nearly eliminates the pitch/roll aspect of driving our cars. The bars have 2 different bolt-hole settings, as I recall (stiff and less stiff).

I laugh because my wife still instinctively grabs the door handles if I take a hard turn, and then it turns out that she doesn't even feel it.

You definitely feel crappy pavement harshly in dynamic mode, but once you put the suspension in comfort that goes away.

Is the suspension still quiet with he end links?

[S4Per]

Yes.


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[mike0819]

Hi I upgrade the encode rear sway bar only did not buy the front, could it still work?

Still perfect in comfort. If anything, your family will be happy as they won't be thrown around in the cabin as you take hard turns, as it nearly eliminates the pitch/roll aspect of driving our cars. The bars have 2 different bolt-hole settings, as I recall (stiff and less stiff).

I laugh because my wife still instinctively grabs the door handles if I take a hard turn, and then it turns out that she doesn't even feel it.

You definitely feel crappy pavement harshly in dynamic mode, but once you put the suspension in comfort that goes away.

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