M1 0w-40 is available for $11 for 5 quarts until October....

[bhvrdr]

M1 0w-40 is being sold at Walmart right now for $22 for 5 quarts with a $12 mail in rebate for every 5 quarts purchased. Yup, thats a little over 2 bucks per quart for a great oil. Just passing it along...

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-1-0...5-qt./23636902

Mike

[jl87]

Dang. Good find.

[fitzydude]

Damn and just when I was wanting to try something new.

[grovlet]

I would steer clear of Mobile One - even if you paid me to put in my car......

It's proven to be the worst oil for shear factors - and breaks down the quickest - There is no way it meets Audi requirements - It's cheap for a reason......

[bhvrdr]

I would steer clear of Mobile One - even if you paid me to put in my car......

It's proven to be the worst oil for shear factors - and breaks down the quickest - There is no way it meets Audi requirements - It's cheap for a reason......

It does meet warranty requirements and i've never heard of a single oil related failure related to M1 0w-40. It can shear but there is no indication that is any problem at all. UOAs wear metals have never really been much different for M1 0w-40 than any other decent quality synthetic. There are more "exotic" oils but I have no idea why you'd pay more for one until a single person shows that the M1 0w-40 isnt holding up to our drain intervals.


It is or has been factory fill in some Bentleys, and almost all Porsche, Mercedes AMG, and Astin Martin vehicles. Its not an ultra premium boutique oil but its a decent oil IMO. By all means, pay $12 per quart for a Motul double ester, Redline, or Amsoil. I've done it myself, but I dont think the engine is going to last any appreciable amount of time longer by doing it. I would rather run M1 0w-40 at $2 per quart for 5K mile oil change intervals than any boutique $12 per quart motor oil at 10K mile oil change intervals.


Mike

[14S4GWM]

I would steer clear of Mobile One - even if you paid me to put in my car......

It's proven to be the worst oil for shear factors - and breaks down the quickest - There is no way it meets Audi requirements - It's cheap for a reason......

I know where you're coming from, it was horrible for Subaru's.

[cW6mT mKviGLi]

At this price, you can change the oil every 2.5k miles and not worry about shear factors, fuel dilution issues and still save money.

Thanks for posting bhvdr, i'm getting ready to do the first oil change on the S3 and with this sale my entire oil change might be less than 25 bux.

[wangshuo1989]

I would steer clear of Mobile One - even if you paid me to put in my car......

It's proven to be the worst oil for shear factors - and breaks down the quickest - There is no way it meets Audi requirements - It's cheap for a reason......

That's true for 5w30, but 0w40 is a completely different thing, 911 uses it from the factory.

[k9lovr]

Interesting take on this....The folks at bobistheoilguy.com seem think Mobile 1 is one of the better oils and usually include thier blackstone analysis to go along with their opinions...

I would steer clear of Mobile One - even if you paid me to put in my car......

It's proven to be the worst oil for shear factors - and breaks down the quickest - There is no way it meets Audi requirements - It's cheap for a reason......

[bhvrdr]

I like the 0w-40 better too but just to be fair the Camaro SS uses M1 5w-30 from the factory and recommends it at changes and uses it at extended drain intervals (oil quality monitor will say to change based on driving habits but generally around 12K miles) and never heard of a single issue (it is a 10 quart sump though). Yes I do agree with you, 0w-40 is a different beast altogether though and a much better spec oil than the 5w-30. I'd use the castrol euro 0w-30 if I were to go down to that weight.

Mike

[k9lovr]

To be fair....when I had my 09 A4 oil consumption seemed to be greater when using M1 in comparison to Castrol....I have had zero issues with my S4 and M1 to date.....so I do feel there are different oils for different applications but to say M1 is crap in general doesnt seem to fit the data that I have at least seen.....

[bhvrdr]

The dreaded 2009 Audi A4. Ughhh, mine eventually consumed 1 quart every 80 miles. I had to carry around quarts in the trunk. I ended up eventually using 15w-50 in it and that didnt do anything. The engine ring recall affected over 100,000 engines of 2009 to 2010 cars I believe. That car was such a nightmare.

Mike

[Dr GP]

Is this available at the store or online only?

[S4Flyer]

Anyone know if this would be appropriate for the 1.8T? This specific oil type is not listed in the manual.

[achilleas101]

before you all go crazy buying a bunch - read the fine print:

Limit two (2) rebates per household

i mean, $23 is still good deal, but you know, set your expectations on how many quarts you're getting at $2 a pop.

[Chris@EPL]

I will be grabbing some at Walmart. I have ran M1 0-40 in my B7A4 Avant 2.0 since new and I am at 260k miles now. I change the cam followers at 50-75k miles and they still look good and I have never had to add oil between changes and just finally going to be doing my first carbon cleaning.

[Pyromatic177]

I will be grabbing some at Walmart. I have ran M1 0-40 in my B7A4 Avant 2.0 since new and I am at 260k miles now. I change the cam followers at 50-75k miles and they still look good and I have never had to add oil between changes and just finally going to be doing my first carbon cleaning.

You're one of those guys that proves Audi's can keep going and are reliable with proper maintenance and expected upkeep!

[MrFunk]

I will be grabbing some at Walmart. I have ran M1 0-40 in my B7A4 Avant 2.0 since new and I am at 260k miles now. I change the cam followers at 50-75k miles and they still look good and I have never had to add oil between changes and just finally going to be doing my first carbon cleaning.

Awesome! Love hearing about any vehicle running strong after that many miles. No reason why not.

[RynoS4]

90,000km on my S4 all with 0w40 M1. Car sees +20-30C in the summer and -40C daily in the winter. My company has an in house oil sample lab, sample tests come back looking just as good as the fancy oils i've used in the past.

now will walmart Canada have the same deal on... hmmm lol.

[Dr GP]

FYI, Mobil 1 is NOT 100% synthetic. Maybe that is why it breaks down sooner. Nevertheless , I use it and it works just fine. I do use the 0-40 European Car Formula.

[Lamprey]

Has anyone tried the rebate? The list of retailers does not include Walmart. But, the list does say "Some participating retailers include," implying there are others.

[xalents23]

Has anyone tried the rebate? The list of retailers does not include Walmart. But, the list does say "Some participating retailers include," implying there are others.

I have tried the exact same rebate 6 months ago. And bought the oil from Walmart and got my rebate checks 3 months later.

[dls11b8]

FYI, Mobil 1 is NOT 100% synthetic. Maybe that is why it breaks down sooner. Nevertheless , I use it and it works just fine. I do use the 0-40 European Car Formula.

Can you provide a source to support that statement? I'm genuinely curious, not trying to call you out.

[bhvrdr]

Can you provide a source to support that statement? I'm genuinely curious, not trying to call you out.

Calling M1 products not 100% synthetic is an old argument that dates back at least 10 years ago when M1 apparently filed suit against Castrol for using the fully synthetic terminology when they were using some Group III.


http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=1029178

http://www.machinerylubrication.com/...ase-oil-groups


I believe the courts ruled this was fine to do and it opened the doors for most all the major synthetic companies like M1, Castrol, Pennzoil, Valvoline, etc to indeed blend in some Group III basestocks and still call their oils fully synthetic.


So yes, they all still are considered under the US Law as fully synthetic (M1, Castrol, etc).


There are different kinds of synthetic base stocks such as Group III, Group IV, and Group V. Oil companies can uses blends of any of them to get the exact properties they are after. There is nothing inherently wrong with this. You want to look at what specs the oil can meet or was tested against. Oils like M1 0w-40 (euro formulation) sold in the US and the Castrol 0w-40 euro formulation (sold in the US) are able to meet some very stringent long life oil specifications that many/most 5w-30 and 0w-30 oils sold in US Stores cannot meet. They are two very decent quality oils. There are even Motul oils that use similar base stocks. You'd need to step up to Redline, certain Motul oils, and other boutique oils to get "100% pure" group 4 or Group 5 base stocks but there isnt alot of proof that they are going to make your daily driver last a mile longer than any other VW502 approved oil.


Bottom line is go with the specs the oil can meet, not what some guess what the base stocks are (since actual oil formulations are propriety). You can spend over $20 per quart on a super high quality base stock with very little additive package and meet incredible high temp high sheer targets but you may have to change the oil every 3K miles due to not having the proper additive package. This is the case with Motul 300v. It uses proprietary "double ester" base stocks that are all Group 5 ultra premium base stocks but you cant use this oil for extended drains so you may think you're getting this "totally awesome" high quality oil for your daily driver that will make it last forever but the truth is that you would be using it in an application in which that oil was not designed. Its designed to hold up extremely well in race conditions. Its not designed for stop and go traffic for 10K miles. In that case your $2 per quart VW502 oil would actually be more appropriate.


Mike

[k9lovr]

And this about sums it up....well said

Calling M1 products not 100% synthetic is an old argument that dates back at least 10 years ago when M1 apparently filed suit against Castrol for using the fully synthetic terminology when they were using some Group III.


http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=1029178

http://www.machinerylubrication.com/...ase-oil-groups


I believe the courts ruled this was fine to do and it opened the doors for most all the major synthetic companies like M1, Castrol, Pennzoil, Valvoline, etc to indeed blend in some Group III basestocks and still call their oils fully synthetic.


So yes, they all still are considered under the US Law as fully synthetic (M1, Castrol, etc).


There are different kinds of synthetic base stocks such as Group III, Group IV, and Group V. Oil companies can uses blends of any of them to get the exact properties they are after. There is nothing inherently wrong with this. You want to look at what specs the oil can meet or was tested against. Oils like M1 0w-40 (euro formulation) sold in the US and the Castrol 0w-40 euro formulation (sold in the US) are able to meet some very stringent long life oil specifications that many/most 5w-30 and 0w-30 oils sold in US Stores cannot meet. They are two very decent quality oils. There are even Motul oils that use similar base stocks. You'd need to step up to Redline, certain Motul oils, and other boutique oils to get "100% pure" group 4 or Group 5 base stocks but there isnt alot of proof that they are going to make your daily driver last a mile longer than any other VW502 approved oil.


Bottom line is go with the specs the oil can meet, not what some guess what the base stocks are (since actual oil formulations are propriety). You can spend over $20 per quart on a super high quality base stock with very little additive package and meet incredible high temp high sheer targets but you may have to change the oil every 3K miles due to not having the proper additive package. This is the case with Motul 300v. It uses proprietary "double ester" base stocks that are all Group 5 ultra premium base stocks but you cant use this oil for extended drains so you may think you're getting this "totally awesome" high quality oil for your daily driver that will make it last forever but the truth is that you would be using it in an application in which that oil was not designed. Its designed to hold up extremely well in race conditions. Its not designed for stop and go traffic for 10K miles. In that case your $2 per quart VW502 oil would actually be more appropriate.


Mike

[Dr GP]

Picked up 10 qts today. Thanks for the heads up! I was easily able to fill out the rebate form and send it in from my iphone. Now just waiting to see if it will be honored from Walmart. Good price even without the rebate.

[Dr GP]

Can you provide a source to support that statement? I'm genuinely curious, not trying to call you out.

Check this out: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w163...synthetic.html We stumbled across the double secret US labelling scam when checking with Mobil tech support after noticing a significant difference in the internal condition of race engines that had similar hours on Mobil 1 and true synthetics. As Detane reported, they confirmed that its a dino base with a synthetic additive package, and that it is labelled as a true synthetic in the US market only.

Mobil 1 is still a good oil. Its used by most of the German marques as OEM oil, including MB and Porsche. For general applications its perfectly OK. There's a world of difference between race applications and normal road use. Oil temps, rev limits, and the amount of time at full throttle are far higher that are ever seen on the road.

[weaselp1]

I would steer clear of Mobile One - even if you paid me to put in my car......

It's proven to be the worst oil for shear factors - and breaks down the quickest - There is no way it meets Audi requirements - It's cheap for a reason......

How is M1 "proven" to be the worst for oil shear factors? Please back your statement up with UOAs to prove your claims. I just got a UOA back using M1 0w40 and I will leave my results here and let the numbers speak for themselves. The first UOA is from my 2013 S4 and the second UOA is from my friends 2015 S4; both using M1 0w40, which is an Audi approved oil.

My friend actually ran lubrimoly 5w40 and experienced shearing, but the M1 did not shear. I am not a M1 fanboy and have used and do use different brands of oil in all of my car, but M1 is not a joke of an oil because it is "cheap" or sold at Walmart. At the end of the day, UOA's are the only truth in determining how well the oil performs.

[marquette100]

@Weaselp1 - Thanks for the facts. You have showed 2 different oil analysis reports proves that M1 is working quite nicely for our platform. I do use Castrol on my 2015 S4. I am changing my oil today (15k service) and will post Blackstone oil analysis results as soon as I can. May be a couple of weeks to turn it around. Please post the lubrimoly results. We can compare M1, to Castrol, to lubrimoly when I get my report back on the same platforms. It also seems like newer engines too. Pretty good test sample.

To put a spin on the quote from the movie "Falling Down" with Michael Douglas, I guess M1 is "economically viable" or an excellent "D-FENS" for your engine.

Can anyone else can post facts (oil analysis) for other types of oil for our S4 platform?

@grovlet - thanks for your personal opinion, it doesn't mean much to me (and probably others on here that trust UOA's for our S4's) and shows no relevance from a scientific perspective relating to the S4 platform. Please feel free to post any scientific evidence if you have it. Out of curiosity, what oil do you use?

As a side note, in my lifetime I have seen many "oil measuring" threads on car forums and the guy that always states how he "feels" regarding his/her choice of oil usually gets nailed with someone that has scientific evidence.

[o1turbo30v]

Good score, thanks for the heads up!

[DoucheBaggins]

Look at the comments section on this UOA report. The Blackstone guys are actually impressed by how M1 performed, resulting in the first "perfect, highlight-free report" for that engine. That's a ringing endorsement and good enough for me.

Thanks to @weaselp1 for posting...

[weaselp1]

Here is the first lubrimoly report that indicates shearing @marquette100. Notice the TBN is not nearly as strong in the 5w40 lubrimoly compared to the M1. The M1 0w40 seems to hold up better in our engines. It will be curious to see how the Castrol performs.

[Cisco Kidd]

M1 0w-40 is being sold at Walmart right now for $22 for 5 quarts with a $12 mail in rebate for every 5 quarts purchased. Yup, thats a little over 2 bucks per quart for a great oil. Just passing it along...

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-1-0...5-qt./23636902

Mike

This is just a killer oil deal period! Thanks OP, i plan to grab up 2 jugs for sure.

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[audigsr]

This is just a killer oil deal period! Thanks OP, i plan to grab up 2 jugs for sure.

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Uh I think this deal ended two years ago...

[Gkit19986]

Uh I think this deal ended two years ago...

Lol.

[wangshuo1989]

This is just a killer oil deal period! Thanks OP, i plan to grab up 2 jugs for sure.

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Dude why are you trolling

[killer_s4]

You think they'll price match?

[Dr GP]

Please end this thread.

[Fresh.S4]

Best way to cap on this deal is buying sets of (2) 5g jugs. Fill out the rebate with as many known addresses.
The happens in the spring/fall every year for the last forever years...

I went and picked up 8 jugs for my cars. I'm set for the year!

[bhvrdr]

Its active again through October

https://apfco.com/secure/R9798W/Info/Terms