DIY: Color DIS Retrofit and Concert to MMI3G Retrofit

[Gunnark100]

They tell me, it is not the same ports, and other on the old and new instrument cluster. If a dealer remove component protection, what else i must do to make cluster a work ? What is with coding ? he says in instrument must write vehicle ID number and other ?

Make sure you buy correct color cluster for prefacelift B8:
km, acc or not, diesel or petrol etc...you need to correct mileage(hackers will do this), dealer will not do this on used cluster, or find one close to your current mileage!
More info here:
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...r-dis-09-A4-B8

Good luck!

[zuti]

One more question ? How to find instrument cluster number of my cluster, to find new one ? My Audi is 2011y, diesel, no acc ?

[CONative]

IHave2Turbos - thank you putting this extremely helpful guide together. I have been contemplating doing this for some time and now I feel much more confident with pricing, part #'s and instructions all laid out. Time to begin sourcing parts!


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[zuti]

I was wondering if there's a way to find the id number of the instrument cluster without extraction from the car?

[Gunnark100]

I was wondering if there's a way to find the id number of the instrument cluster without extraction from the car?

You can see nr with vcds, but you dont need your old cluster number to find new one, just use prcodes and use online catalogue or find cluster number in ebay de... Take 2010+ cluster!

[zuti]

I contacted an authorized audi store, and they told me I could remove a CP for about $ 35. When I embark on a new instrument cluster for myself, will I be able to start a car to go to them? And when they remove the protection, is it all? Why did others mention that a new instrument cluster should be coded, add additional data to it? In blocks 50 and 20?

[zuti]

Something like this ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLCa6VyZ8Fk

[zuti]

Done !! Al what you need is to remove CP from intrument cluster and if you want correct milage. No other coding needed. Replaced instrument cluster is from 2009y. I will tomoroow upload some pictures. Color DIS is awesome !!! My next retrofit will be MMI with NAVI update !!

THANKS TO Gunnark100 !!!

[zuti]

http://imgur.com/a/cXgSh
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[Gunnark100]

My next retrofit will be MMI with NAVI update !!
THANKS TO Gunnark100 !!!

Regardingi Navi, make sure jump to 3G+(EU mainunit with sim 8R1035670)!

[andybq5]

I am working on MMI retrofit project and found this very detailed and fast video of Q5 retrofit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bFaSBHydSU..

[andybq5]

My project budget spend comparison..

MMI Unit, Controls & Trim:
7" LCD Trim: 8K1857186H/F eBay I Paid: $48 He Paid: $55 -->I paid $12
7" LCD Screen: 8R0919604A eBay I Paid: $150 He Paid: $177 --> I paid $74
MMI System (2010): 8T1035664B eBay I Paid: $112 He Paid: $134 --> I paid $99 (3G high 2015 unit with Sim)
MMI Bracket: 8K0858969 eBay I Paid: $154 He Paid: $128 -> NA
MMI Controls: 8T0919609F eBay I Paid: $120 He Paid: $177 --> I paid $34
MMI ESP Switch: 8K1959673 eBay I Paid: FREE He Paid: $27 (came w/ MMI) -->I paid $20

CAN Module:
MOST CAN Gateway: 8T0907468AD eBay I Paid: $80 He Paid: $80 --> I paid $40

GPS Antenna:
FAKRA GPS Antenna: N/A eBay I Paid: $8 He Paid: $8 --> I paid $ 7


GSM Cable: (Just in case I upgrade to MMI3G+ in the future, the Cell Phone cable will be run already)
FAKRA D GSM Cable to Trunk: N/A eBay I Paid: $13 He Paid: $? --> I paid $8

Kufatec Radio to MMI3G High Harness:
Kufatec Harness: N/A Kufatec I Paid: $305 He Paid: $350 -->I paid $265

Radio/Amp (WA1DGAFE7FDXXXXXX):
Radio Trunk Bracket: 8T0907368A eBay I Paid: $24 He Paid: $66 --> NA
Radio/Receiver Tuner: 4G0035082G eBay I Paid: $240 He Paid: $167 -->>$ 130 (2016 unit with HD sirius)
Radio Protection Removal: N/A dealer I Paid: $144 He Paid: $? --> Still TBD

AMI Cable
MMI3G AMI Cable: N/A Ali Express I Paid: $63 He Paid: ? --> NA

SAT Cable Extension to Trunk:
15ft Fakra M-to-F SatRadio Ext: N/A eBay I Paid: $16 He Paid: $16 --> I Paid $ 9

[Ford Prefect]

My project budget spend comparison..

MMI Unit, Controls & Trim:
7" LCD Trim:8K1857186H/FeBayI Paid: $48He Paid: $55 -->I paid $12
7" LCD Screen:8R0919604AeBayI Paid: $150He Paid: $177 --> I paid $74
MMI System (2010):8T1035664BeBayI Paid: $112He Paid: $134 --> I paid $99 (3G high 2015 unit with Sim)
MMI Bracket:8K0858969eBayI Paid: $154He Paid: $128 -> NA
MMI Controls:8T0919609FeBayI Paid: $120He Paid: $177 --> I paid $34
MMI ESP Switch:8K1959673eBayI Paid: FREEHe Paid: $27 (came w/ MMI) -->I paid $20

CAN Module:
MOST CAN Gateway:8T0907468ADeBayI Paid: $80He Paid: $80 --> I paid $40

GPS Antenna:
FAKRA GPS Antenna:N/AeBayI Paid: $8He Paid: $8 --> I paid $ 7


GSM Cable: (Just in case I upgrade to MMI3G+ in the future, the Cell Phone cable will be run already)
FAKRA D GSM Cable to Trunk:N/AeBayI Paid: $13He Paid: $? --> I paid $8

Kufatec Radio to MMI3G High Harness:
Kufatec Harness:N/AKufatecI Paid: $305He Paid: $350 -->I paid $265

Radio/Amp (WA1DGAFE7FDXXXXXX):
Radio Trunk Bracket:8T0907368AeBayI Paid: $24He Paid: $66 --> NA
Radio/Receiver Tuner:4G0035082GeBayI Paid: $240He Paid: $167 -->>$ 130 (2016 unit with HD sirius)
Radio Protection Removal:N/AdealerI Paid: $144He Paid: $? --> Still TBD

AMI Cable
MMI3G AMI Cable:N/AAli ExpressI Paid: $63He Paid: ? --> NA

SAT Cable Extension to Trunk:
15ft Fakra M-to-F SatRadio Ext:N/AeBayI Paid: $16He Paid: $16 --> I Paid $ 9

How's you get the Kufatec harness so cheap? Aren't there 3 needed for the swap?


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[IHave2Turbos]

not sure i understand? the harness kit includes everything you need. the price on their site includes taxes which we don’t pay in the US

[IHave2Turbos]

also as you can see the prices have continued to trend downwards as more and more of these parts get old and flood ebay.

[IHave2Turbos]

i’ll probably re-retrofit to mmi3g+ if i can scoop up controls and main unit on the cheap.

[Ford Prefect]

not sure i understand? the harness kit includes everything you need. the price on their site includes taxes which we don’t pay in the US

This cable, which I believe is right, mentions you also need part numbers 36735 and 39411. The main harness is $299 euros so I'm guessing eBay was the source for the $265 price.

https://www.kufatec.de/shop/en/audi/...g-harness-audi


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[IHave2Turbos]

299 euro minus 19% VAT

those additional harnesses would be for if you wanted to add or adapt factory AMI. I posted my link to AliExpress where I bought a factory one.

Another optional harness is their dual microphone adapter but i didn’t buy that either.

[andybq5]

This cable, which I believe is right, mentions you also need part numbers 36735 and 39411. The main harness is $299 euros so I'm guessing eBay was the source for the $265 price.

https://www.kufatec.de/shop/en/audi/...g-harness-audi


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Well, no I haggled and had Kufatec price match to a similar cable on eBay.

[andybq5]

Go for it man.. there are many available for cheap on eBay and also chcek out https://www.partsmarket.com/ .

[Ford Prefect]

299 euro minus 19% VAT

those additional harnesses would be for if you wanted to add or adapt factory AMI. I posted my link to AliExpress where I bought a factory one.

Another optional harness is their dual microphone adapter but i didn’t buy that either.

Ah! I misunderstood, -19%, very good.


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[IHave2Turbos]

Murica!!!!!

[andybq5]

Ah! I misunderstood, -19%, very good.


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Here is another deal on MMI 3G bluetooth microphone.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Audi-A4L-A6...72.m2749.l2649

[andybq5]

Murica!!!!!

When you swapped your DIS did it cause any mileage discrepancy?

[IHave2Turbos]

yes i bought one that luckily was only about 20 more than i had on the car. otherwise you need to get the DIS coded with your mileage

[andybq5]

I started my upgrade today but got stuck at radio amp unit. My Q5 has factory sat Sirius radio and all I find in back rear bracket is an Amp unit with rectangular plug but not trace of Sirius unit. Kufatec cable came with an empty quadlock and wires and no instruction on how to mount MMI radio in trunk. Do you have any pictures on how to get cable wiring for quadlock and fit in to MMI HD radio?

[andybq5]

Hi I am trying to upgrade from concert to MMI 3g plus and need help connecting Kufatec pink display wire 4 pin to back of MMI unit. There isnt any pink connector on back of MMI unit. Can you please help? I am also not getting display or key light up on console button near shifter.. What could be wrong?

[Slick_B8]

Bump, help him out lol

[Ford Prefect]

yes i bought one that luckily was only about 20 more than i had on the car. otherwise you need to get the DIS coded with your mileage

Just quoting so maybe you can assist.


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[frankv27]

I want to personally thank everyone for all the info on this thread. I have been wanting to do this since I purchased my 2010 S4

[andybq5]

Bump.. no activity..

[johnnySV]

if somebody is planning to take on this mod, hit me up — i have a custom white LED gauge cluster that i’d like to sell you. it currently has the red DIS, so it’s a good candidate for the color DIS swap. the white LEDs were fitted to a stock a4 cluster to allow for white illumination of the gauge needles of white needles are fitted (like s4).


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[andybq5]

Can you post pics?

[johnnySV]

here is a pic of what it looks like in an a4 with color DIS, white needles, and my white LEDs


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[andybq5]

Looks cool!! I am on 65k Miles and it’s on 54k not sure I can go with it. Pm me your asking price


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[andybq5]

Btw I got my mmi 3g plus retro done and working with Google 3G. It’s was a bad 5F unit!!


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[Ford Prefect]

Btw I got my mmi 3g plus retro done and working with Google 3G. It’s was a bad 5F unit!!


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Nice!! How long did it take you, total?


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[andybq5]

Around 6 hrs split in two days


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[andybq5]

Now have mmi 3g kit for sale ..Sold!!!