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    DIY: Color DIS Retrofit and Concert to MMI3G Retrofit

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    This is going to be a living thread to chronicle my COLOR DIS & MMI3G retrofit projects.

    I have borrowed heavily from Infiltrator and other posts on here. I have added some additional clarification when possible.

    If you have any additions or suggestions let me know and I will update.

    ***STILL NEED***
    (OPTIONAL) Microphones For Retrofitting MMI 3G: $100
    http://www.kufatec.de/shop/en/Microp...ofitting-MMI3G

    The "He Paid" portion is Infiltrator, my goal was to show the mostly downward trend on the parts pricing (radio is the outlier)

    *** PURCHASED ***
    Misc:
    Re-Pinning Tools: N/A amazon I Paid: $12 He Paid: ?
    Trim Removal Tools: N/A amazon I Paid: $25 He Paid: ?
    Radio Removal Tools: N/A eBay I Paid: $5 He Paid: $5

    MMI Unit, Controls & Trim:
    7" LCD Trim: 8K1857186H/F eBay I Paid: $48 He Paid: $55
    7" LCD Screen: 8R0919604A eBay I Paid: $150 He Paid: $177
    MMI System (2010): 8T1035664B eBay I Paid: $112 He Paid: $134
    MMI Bracket: 8K0858969 eBay I Paid: $154 He Paid: $128
    MMI Controls: 8T0919609F eBay I Paid: $120 He Paid: $177
    MMI ESP Switch: 8K1959673 eBay I Paid: FREE He Paid: $27 (came w/ MMI)

    CAN Module:
    MOST CAN Gateway: 8T0907468AD eBay I Paid: $80 He Paid: $80

    GPS Antenna:
    FAKRA GPS Antenna: N/A eBay I Paid: $8 He Paid: $8


    GSM Cable: (Just in case I upgrade to MMI3G+ in the future, the Cell Phone cable will be run already)
    FAKRA D GSM Cable to Trunk: N/A eBay I Paid: $13 He Paid: $?

    Kufatec Radio to MMI3G High Harness:
    Kufatec Harness: N/A Kufatec I Paid: $305 He Paid: $350

    Radio/Amp (WA1DGAFE7FDXXXXXX):
    Radio Trunk Bracket: 8T0907368A eBay I Paid: $24 He Paid: $66
    Radio/Receiver Tuner: 4G0035082G eBay I Paid: $240 He Paid: $167
    Radio Protection Removal: N/A dealer I Paid: $144 He Paid: $?

    AMI Cable
    MMI3G AMI Cable: N/A Ali Express I Paid: $63 He Paid: ?

    SAT Cable Extension to Trunk:
    15ft Fakra M-to-F SatRadio Ext: N/A eBay I Paid: $16 He Paid: $16

    MMI3G Retrofit Totals - - I Paid: $ 1280 so far

    Color DIS Retrofit (WAUFFAFL6ANXXXXXX):
    Color DIS Cluster: 8K0920980M eBay I Paid: $ 83 w/ 85k He Paid: $?
    Color DIS Stalks: 8K0953502BD AZine I Paid: $ 90 He Paid: $?
    Protection Removal: N/A dealer I Paid: $144 He Paid: $?

    Color DIS Retrofit Totals: - - I Paid: $ 317 [COMPLETE]

    Total Total - - I Paid: $1597 so far

    ***INSTALL AND CODING INFORMATION***
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...1#post10711667

    http://www.audiworld.com/forums/a4-b...oject-2830698/

    http://workshop-manuals.com/audi/a4_...08_onwards%29/

    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ful-conversion!

    CAN Gateway Explanation:
    http://www.jimellisaudiparts.com/sho...roduct=5656045

    AA/AD/Q Provides: (Probably the best choices)
    (7Y1) Side assist/lane departure warning: Lane change assistant.
    (7Y2) Side assist/lane departure warning: Lane Departure Warning.
    (7Y3) Side assist/lane departure warning: Lane change assistant plus lane departure warning.
    (8AJ) Radios: Radio.
    (8DP) Radios: Radio "LOW II".
    (8DY) Radios: Radio "HIGH" America.
    (8DZ) Radios: Radio "HIGH" Japan.
    (8N1) Windshield wiper intermittent control: Windshield wiper intermittent control.
    (8N6) Windshield wiper intermittent control: Windshield wiper intermittent control with light/rain sensor.
    (8N7) Windshield wiper intermittent control: Windshield wiper intermittent control with light/rain sensor.
    (8T0) Cruise control: Without cruise control system (CCS).
    (8T1) Cruise control: Cruise control system (CCS).
    (8T4) Cruise control: Adaptive Cruise Control.
    (8UV) Radios: High-level radio for China.
    (8YF) Radios: Radio.
    (8YQ) Radios: Radio "HIGH".

    P/T Provides: (Similar to AA/AD but w/ 7Y0 w/o 7Y1, 7Y2,7Y3,8N7) (Will work if you can't find anything else)
    (7Y0) Side assist/lane departure warning: Without lane change assistant.
    (8AJ) Radios: Radio.
    (8DP) Radios: Radio "LOW II".
    (8DY) Radios: Radio "HIGH" America.
    (8DZ) Radios: Radio "HIGH" Japan.
    (8N1) Windshield wiper intermittent control: Windshield wiper intermittent control.
    (8N6) Windshield wiper intermittent control: Windshield wiper intermittent control with light/rain sensor.
    (8T0) Cruise control: Without cruise control system (CCS).
    (8T1) Cruise control: Cruise control system (CCS).
    (8UV) Radios: High-level radio for China.
    (8YF) Radios: Radio.
    (8YQ) Radios: Radio "HIGH".

    !!!DO NOT WANT FOR MMI3G RETROFIT!!!
    AB/M/N/S/R: Non MMI

    Internal Amp Coding (VCDS):
    Change the 8th digit in the long coding with VCDS under Radio.
    02 00 07 02 00 00 00 00 01

    Restoring HVAC Controls (VCDS):
    Address 08: Byte 01, Bit 4 Checked (air-conditioning setting in MMI)

    Enable Audi Drive Select Individual in MMI3G:
    VCDS Coding:
    (Module 09, Byte 07, Bit 05 checked)
    (Module 09, Byte 08, Bit 00/01/02/04 checked)
    (Module 09, Byte 17, Bit 07 checked)

    MMI Hidden Menu:
    car/carmenuoperation/charisma ==> 5
    car/cardevicelist/charisma ==> checked

    VCDS Adapation
    (Module 09, Channel 63/64/65/66 ==> 4 (4 is Individual Mode)

    AMI Retrofit:
    For AMI green connector goes in QUADLOCK position C
    http://www.bilkomponenter.no/users/k...G_englisch.pdf
    http://workshop-manuals.com/audi/a4_...08_onwards%29/

    Color Stalks Retrofit:
    My car was base so I didn't have the "RESET" button on my wiper stalk.
    The base P/N is 8K0953502BA
    The plus P/N is 8K0953502BD (There is one version w/ the Steering angle Sensor, for me it didn't matter I don't have those features anyway)
    Donate to DavidB8 he has done a tone of the legwork to make these DIY easy for us!
    http://www.audienthusiasts.com/ProjectSteeringSwap.html

    Fakra Connectors Demystified


    Generally you would want a 90*/right angle for behind dash and a straight through for the connections to the sharkfin or wherever else you're hooking it up.

    They are "keyed" but if you really don't have a choice you can use "Z" for any of them.

    Tons of great wiring and other information
    http://a4-klub.pl/index.php?/topic/2...e-wyposazenia/

    Option Code Information:
    Bang & Olufsen = 9VK
    Audi Concert/Symphony System (Active sound, with amp in trunk) = 9VD [I think this is the lowest we got in the US]
    Audi System (Passive sound, w/o amp in trunk, center speaker and subwoofer) = 8RX [I think this is only available ROW so don't worry about it]
    Last edited by IHave2Turbos; 03-03-2017 at 03:07 PM.
    C7.5 S6
    Mods : OEM+ Stage3 / DS1 ECU / SRM TCU / CTS HX

    B8 A4
    Mods : HPA\\\ K04 / Manifold / HFC / Tune | CTS FMIC / DP | CR-15 | ECS Inserts
    Retrofits: MMI3G+ / RVC / AHH / Color DIS / Cruise Stalks

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    DIY: B8 Color DIS Swap

    Info:
    My car was a 2010 Base so I had the monochrome red DIS. I decided to swap it out for a full color version. I happened upon a cluster on eBay that had the same mileage as mine. Otherwise you need to get the cluster reprogrammed.

    FYI: I do not have ACC so my P/N may vary from yours.

    Steps to swap out the Instrument Cluster (DIS) on the B8
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...etrofit-for-A4

    1) Remove the MMI LCD Trim (held in by pressure clips)

    2) Remove the Left Vent Trim (held in by pressure clips)

    3) Pull your steering wheel all the way down to release tension on the center trim piece.

    4) Remove the center trim piece (this has pressure clips and little tabs that click into the frame of the cluster)

    5) Remove the 3x 8mm bolts. One at each top corner, one on the center bottom. (use a magnet for this one if you are nervous)

    6) Pull out the cluster and manipulate it so that basically the gauges are facing up.

    7) Pull out the little locking tab on the connector and remove.

    8) Swap in your new cluster, attach cable, reinstall 3x 8mm bolts, replace center trim, replace vent trim, replace MMI trim.

    9) Go to dealer to get Component Protection removed.

    10) Enjoy that sweet full color goodness!


    Coming up next will be to install the "Navigation" stalks so I can cycle through the screens on the cluster. Stay tuned!
    Last edited by IHave2Turbos; 09-01-2016 at 08:31 AM.
    C7.5 S6
    Mods : OEM+ Stage3 / DS1 ECU / SRM TCU / CTS HX

    B8 A4
    Mods : HPA\\\ K04 / Manifold / HFC / Tune | CTS FMIC / DP | CR-15 | ECS Inserts
    Retrofits: MMI3G+ / RVC / AHH / Color DIS / Cruise Stalks

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    OK quick update, DIS/Nav Stalks install went without a hitch. I followed the great DIY at http://audienthusiasts.com/ProjectSteeringSwap.html

    If you haven't already send DavidB8 a donation, he has provided so much valuable information on this platform.

    Now I can successfully toggle through the various screens on my new Color DIS. I enabled Lap Timer, Oil Temp Gauge, Eco mode via VCDS.

    Next Stop: Installing my MMI3G retrofit parts.
    Last edited by IHave2Turbos; 09-05-2016 at 03:16 PM.
    C7.5 S6
    Mods : OEM+ Stage3 / DS1 ECU / SRM TCU / CTS HX

    B8 A4
    Mods : HPA\\\ K04 / Manifold / HFC / Tune | CTS FMIC / DP | CR-15 | ECS Inserts
    Retrofits: MMI3G+ / RVC / AHH / Color DIS / Cruise Stalks

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    OK So I have run all cables, removed all of the old parts and installed all of the new MMI3G retrofit parts.

    This little nugget of information was not in any of the existing tutorials but it is very important. When you try to remove the hood release lever you need to use a flat head to remove a little plastic clip. It is very simple once you know what to actually do.

    Thanks to MOGolf






    THANKS INFILTRATOR!!!


    System is operational.

    GPS acquires satellites.

    I enabled the secret menu.

    Appointment is made to have component protection removed.

    I just need to tidy up the wiring under the dash and I am still waiting for the MMI dash bracket to properly button everything up.

    Now I just need to get the software updated.
    Last edited by IHave2Turbos; 03-03-2017 at 03:08 PM.
    C7.5 S6
    Mods : OEM+ Stage3 / DS1 ECU / SRM TCU / CTS HX

    B8 A4
    Mods : HPA\\\ K04 / Manifold / HFC / Tune | CTS FMIC / DP | CR-15 | ECS Inserts
    Retrofits: MMI3G+ / RVC / AHH / Color DIS / Cruise Stalks

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    OK so Saturday i disconnected the battery and re-installed all of the components. I took it this morning and they were able to finally remove CP and now the components are all working again.

    Coding:


    Media ripping works (in hidden menu I changed setting to [4/4 Copy/Ripping Enabled]

    Navigation works (and the directions show up in my new Full Color DIS Cluster!)

    I have DSP and Subwoofer controls in MMI

    AMI Works Completely

    MP3 CD's work

    DVD Playback with VIM works (Entered Code via VCDS Adapation)

    Tuner Couldn't Change Stations:
    Problem: After CP was removed all functions of the MMI3G worked except the tuner could not change FM Radio stations.
    Solution: I updated the software to 1333 and now everything works perfectly.

    TODO's
    I need to update the NAR Database
    I need to figure out my voice control microphone wiring solution.
    In the meantime I got rid of the "Left/Right" Microphone codes by telling MMI in Hidden Menu that No Mics were installed instead of 2.
    Last edited by IHave2Turbos; 03-03-2017 at 03:06 PM.
    C7.5 S6
    Mods : OEM+ Stage3 / DS1 ECU / SRM TCU / CTS HX

    B8 A4
    Mods : HPA\\\ K04 / Manifold / HFC / Tune | CTS FMIC / DP | CR-15 | ECS Inserts
    Retrofits: MMI3G+ / RVC / AHH / Color DIS / Cruise Stalks

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    MMI3G Module 56 Radio Coding Demystified:

    AA = Tuner Region [US/Europe]
    BB = Satellite Type [SDARDS/DAB]
    CC = Operational Mode [Not sure what this does exactly] (Some say 05=Q3)
    DD = Amplifier Selection [Internal vs. External]
    EE = Sound Profile [Not Sure]
    FF = [Not Sure]
    GG = [Not Sure]
    HH = [Not Sure]
    II = Chassis [01 = A4/ 02 = Q3?]

    For my B8 A4 Concert/Symphony to MMI3G (082G) Retrofit these are my exact VCDS Coding Settings

    02 = AM/FM USA (01 = Europe)
    00 = Sirius USA version (01 = DAB )
    07 = Operational Mode
    02 = Internal Amp (01 = External Amp i.e B&0 or stock Symphony)
    00 = Sound Profile
    00 = No info
    00 = No info
    00 = No info
    01 = Chassis Type A4
    Last edited by IHave2Turbos; 09-20-2016 at 09:08 AM.
    C7.5 S6
    Mods : OEM+ Stage3 / DS1 ECU / SRM TCU / CTS HX

    B8 A4
    Mods : HPA\\\ K04 / Manifold / HFC / Tune | CTS FMIC / DP | CR-15 | ECS Inserts
    Retrofits: MMI3G+ / RVC / AHH / Color DIS / Cruise Stalks

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    Impressive work.

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    Regarding the Single DIN MMI Main Unit Dash Bracket P/N 8K0858969

    As of 09/20/2016 There are 2 publically available units of this part that I could find.

    there is one dealer in Massachusetts that has a single piece in stock. Their price is ~$168.00. If you'd like specific details PM me.
    there is one seller on US ebay that has a single piece in stock. Their price is ~$154.00.
    C7.5 S6
    Mods : OEM+ Stage3 / DS1 ECU / SRM TCU / CTS HX

    B8 A4
    Mods : HPA\\\ K04 / Manifold / HFC / Tune | CTS FMIC / DP | CR-15 | ECS Inserts
    Retrofits: MMI3G+ / RVC / AHH / Color DIS / Cruise Stalks

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    Nice thread! It's all coming together now that your system's up and running. One of the best mods I've done by far!
    2018 S6 Prestige | Black Optic | S Sport | Driver Assist | Carbon Atlas
    DS1 Stage 2 | SRM TCU | Mike's GESI DP's | AWE Touring w/Black Tips | AWE S-FLO II Intake | SRM Turbo Inlets | H&R Sway Bars | ECSTuning Trans & Diff Mounts | JBX Driveshaft Carrier | Power Stop Z16 Ceramic Pads | BC Forged RZ21 20x9.5 ET30 Brushed Black 22lbs w/Michelin PS4S 265/35/20 | -15mm w/VCDS | CS-II Ceramic Coated | 20% Tint

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    Great work thus far!

    I am about to embark upon this work as well to upgrade my 2012 Prestige B8 to 3G+ MMI.

    Is there any coding I can help you with presently?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IHave2Turbos View Post
    Does anyone have any experience with this "activation dongle"? http://vnsmedia.shoper.pl/en_GB/p/AM...PLUS-,-RMC/112
    Is that doing any other coding in the 5F besides what we've already accomplished in the Hidden Menu? (AUX/no AMI BT/AMI) setting?
    This dongle will not help you, you have wrong cable(audi MDI cable)! Correct cable for audi 3G AMI(audi music interface) retrofit is:

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/For-...04626-VnYZvQVf

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    Last edited by Gunnark100; 03-04-2017 at 07:41 PM. Reason: OP has updated thread regarding correct cable for AMI
    Retrofits: FL taillights / MMI 3G & 3G+(Street view incl.)/ Color Cluster & FL S5 Cluster/ BiXenon/ ADS Lite
    Other: ECU Tune/ VCDS Tweaks/ FL Gearknob/ Soundproofing/ Interior 6D Carbon Wrap/ Rieger Rep Front Bumper Valance/ Basic sound(8) upgrade to "ASS"(9+1) + B/O Sub(in sidepanel)/Tweeters + Activsub/ Efficiency Prog via Cluster & Gateway flash/ Sideskirts/ Window Tint/ Wsp Peeler reps/ License plate & Interior leds

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    Thanks for your clarification and information. Everything else in my MMI3G retrofit is working very nicely. This is the last piece of the puzzle.
    C7.5 S6
    Mods : OEM+ Stage3 / DS1 ECU / SRM TCU / CTS HX

    B8 A4
    Mods : HPA\\\ K04 / Manifold / HFC / Tune | CTS FMIC / DP | CR-15 | ECS Inserts
    Retrofits: MMI3G+ / RVC / AHH / Color DIS / Cruise Stalks

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    Brief Update: I received my AMI Cable from AliExpress and this looks very much like the real deal. I believe upon first inspection that this is actual NOS Audi Stock from 2011/2012.

    I plan on installing this this weekend and reporting my results. If so this is the going to be a great buy for $60.

    C7.5 S6
    Mods : OEM+ Stage3 / DS1 ECU / SRM TCU / CTS HX

    B8 A4
    Mods : HPA\\\ K04 / Manifold / HFC / Tune | CTS FMIC / DP | CR-15 | ECS Inserts
    Retrofits: MMI3G+ / RVC / AHH / Color DIS / Cruise Stalks

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    Quote Originally Posted by IHave2Turbos View Post
    Brief Update: I received my AMI Cable from AliExpress and this looks very much like the real deal. I believe upon first inspection that this is actual NOS Audi Stock from 2011/2012.

    I plan on installing this this weekend and reporting my results. If so this is the going to be a great buy for $60.

    Awesome, let me know because I'd like to finish my setup too.
    2018 S6 Prestige | Black Optic | S Sport | Driver Assist | Carbon Atlas
    DS1 Stage 2 | SRM TCU | Mike's GESI DP's | AWE Touring w/Black Tips | AWE S-FLO II Intake | SRM Turbo Inlets | H&R Sway Bars | ECSTuning Trans & Diff Mounts | JBX Driveshaft Carrier | Power Stop Z16 Ceramic Pads | BC Forged RZ21 20x9.5 ET30 Brushed Black 22lbs w/Michelin PS4S 265/35/20 | -15mm w/VCDS | CS-II Ceramic Coated | 20% Tint

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    I tried buying something from AliExpress and they canceled my order said I had to give them social security card

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG_ROOSTER View Post
    I tried buying something from AliExpress and they canceled my order said I had to give them social security card
    lol, really? Did you report their ass so they'd get shut down and not screw more people over?
    2018 S6 Prestige | Black Optic | S Sport | Driver Assist | Carbon Atlas
    DS1 Stage 2 | SRM TCU | Mike's GESI DP's | AWE Touring w/Black Tips | AWE S-FLO II Intake | SRM Turbo Inlets | H&R Sway Bars | ECSTuning Trans & Diff Mounts | JBX Driveshaft Carrier | Power Stop Z16 Ceramic Pads | BC Forged RZ21 20x9.5 ET30 Brushed Black 22lbs w/Michelin PS4S 265/35/20 | -15mm w/VCDS | CS-II Ceramic Coated | 20% Tint

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    Wow that sounds pretty sketchy to me as well. This was super straight forward, clicked buy, payed with CC, had the package delivered in like 6 days. Really want to install this and see how it works.
    C7.5 S6
    Mods : OEM+ Stage3 / DS1 ECU / SRM TCU / CTS HX

    B8 A4
    Mods : HPA\\\ K04 / Manifold / HFC / Tune | CTS FMIC / DP | CR-15 | ECS Inserts
    Retrofits: MMI3G+ / RVC / AHH / Color DIS / Cruise Stalks

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    Hell I figured it was AliExpress doing the canceling. Does that work through individual sellers?

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    UPDATE: AliExpress cable was legit Audi NOS from 2011. Plugged right in and now Ipod Integration works just like my real AMI CAN Box did on my Concert System.



    C7.5 S6
    Mods : OEM+ Stage3 / DS1 ECU / SRM TCU / CTS HX

    B8 A4
    Mods : HPA\\\ K04 / Manifold / HFC / Tune | CTS FMIC / DP | CR-15 | ECS Inserts
    Retrofits: MMI3G+ / RVC / AHH / Color DIS / Cruise Stalks

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    Quote Originally Posted by IHave2Turbos View Post
    UPDATE: AliExpress cable was legit Audi NOS from 2011. Plugged right in and now Ipod Integration works just like my real AMI CAN Box did on my Concert System.



    Have a link to the cable? So you broke the port C off of the quadlock so you could plug this new one in right? I think I might do this and finish my retrofit.
    2018 S6 Prestige | Black Optic | S Sport | Driver Assist | Carbon Atlas
    DS1 Stage 2 | SRM TCU | Mike's GESI DP's | AWE Touring w/Black Tips | AWE S-FLO II Intake | SRM Turbo Inlets | H&R Sway Bars | ECSTuning Trans & Diff Mounts | JBX Driveshaft Carrier | Power Stop Z16 Ceramic Pads | BC Forged RZ21 20x9.5 ET30 Brushed Black 22lbs w/Michelin PS4S 265/35/20 | -15mm w/VCDS | CS-II Ceramic Coated | 20% Tint

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    Link is in the master parts list at the top I edited the link to point to AliExpress.

    Yes i was forced to basically cut out the "C" portion of the shitty kufatec quadlock behind the MMI Main unit because for some reason they decided to go with a fully molded connector instead of the factory audi connector. So you can't just clip in the AMI cable.

    You could also de-pin the wires from the AMI cable and repin into the molded quadlock which I admit would be nicer but I thought about it and it would make removing the AMI really difficult if I ever needed to in the future so I chose the cutting approach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IHave2Turbos View Post
    Update: So much fail!!! after 2 trips to the dealer they have been unable to communicate with the Module 56 (Radio) to remove Component Protection. My system and basically car are useless in this state.

    I have posted a HELP request in this thread: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...1#post11891040

    Hopefully once I get this figured out I can update the content here to complete the story.
    Not sure why, but my car didn't like it when I tried to put the 'navigation' stalks on. I didn't save the code, and I may try the swap again this weekend, but when I scanned it said I had a coding issue.

    Everything worked on the wiper stalks, expect for the toggle switch and reset button, was odd.
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    There is some coding involved to get the multifunction display to work. You also have the full color DIS correct?
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    UPDATE: Interesting issue that came up from this retrofit. The CAN Gateway that I got for this upgrade obviously came from a different (older) car. I recently had an issue where my MMI Battery gauge was stuck at 50% even though my alternator/voltage regulator/battery were fine. The problem was that the old gateway still had an old BEM coding in it, the battery was coded as a 2010 build date. I updated the BEM coding to match my actual battery and instantly the gauge went back to 100%. This is an odd little bug that came up as a result of this retrofit and just adding a note here for completeness. Re-coding the BEM should be part of the coding procedure for this upgrade.
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    UPDATE: Another tiny thing to add for a fully complete upgrade which I haven't seen mentioned anywhere else. When you take out your Concert/Symphony head unit the passenger side fuse box has a 20A fuse for the radio. When you install the MMI unit you should swap this fuse out for the 5A that the MMI needs. This will protect the MMI head unit from getting zapped. You can see on the passenger fuse box cover that the fuse rating is variable based on which Radio package you have. I believe this is the "right" way to complete this retrofit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IHave2Turbos View Post
    UPDATE: Another tiny thing to add for a fully complete upgrade which I haven't seen mentioned anywhere else. When you take out your Concert/Symphony head unit the passenger side fuse box has a 20A fuse for the radio. When you install the MMI unit you should swap this fuse out for the 5A that the MMI needs. This will protect the MMI head unit from getting zapped. You can see on the passenger fuse box cover that the fuse rating is variable based on which Radio package you have. I believe this is the "right" way to complete this retrofit.
    I might have to change that out, I don't think anything will ever happen but I also don't want to find out the hard way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IHave2Turbos View Post
    There is some coding involved to get the multifunction display to work. You also have the full color DIS correct?
    Yes sir~ Figured there might have been. Just wasn't sure what was involved. Have it handy by chance?
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    I'm starting to piece together the parts for this and had a quick question. Is it essential to have the VIN from the Radio/Receiver Tuner or can this be overcome?

    Thanks again to everyone for the very helpful info on this and other threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gk404 View Post
    I'm starting to piece together the parts for this and had a quick question. Is it essential to have the VIN from the Radio/Receiver Tuner or can this be overcome?

    Thanks again to everyone for the very helpful info on this and other threads.
    No need, every time I went to get the CP taken off they didn't need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunm82 View Post
    Yes sir~ Figured there might have been. Just wasn't sure what was involved. Have it handy by chance?
    Check out audienthusiasts.com...david did a great job of the swap and coding needed. I had to change a few when i swapped the stalk in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elscotto80 View Post
    Check out audienthusiasts.com...david did a great job of the swap and coding needed. I had to change a few when i swapped the stalk in.
    Thanks man, I actually figured it out a few days ago. Found out that I didn't have the 'DIS' installed option, checked that. Reinstalled my stalk and everything was good to go~
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    Quote Originally Posted by IHave2Turbos View Post

    Color Stalks Retrofit:
    My car was base so I didn't have the "RESET" button on my wiper stalk.
    The base P/N is 8K0953502BA
    The plus P/N is 8K0953502BD (There is one version w/ the Steering angle Sensor, for me it didn't matter I don't have those features anyway)
    Donate to DavidB8 he has done a tone of the legwork to make these DIY easy for us!
    http://www.audienthusiasts.com/ProjectSteeringSwap.html
    So I just learned the hard way that Audi doesn't give out part numbers. While this fact really doesn't surprise me in general (why make it easy to buy from others right?), it does surprise me that they won't tell me what's actually installed on my car, that's irritating. But after asking a noob question at the local dealership I may have answered my own question and don't need to pull my column apart to verify, but I'd love verification here:

    Are the only differences between the two parts above, BA and BD, the reset button and selector switch on the end of the wiper stalk? If so, I'm good, I have those 2 functions. Would love for someone to verify that though!
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    I generally look at http://www.jimellisaudiparts.com/pro...3502BD4PK.html

    Based on that yes the difference is the BA (base) does not have the multi-function buttons and the (BD) does have the buttons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IHave2Turbos View Post
    I generally look at http://www.jimellisaudiparts.com/pro...3502BD4PK.html

    Based on that yes the difference is the BA (base) does not have the multi-function buttons and the (BD) does have the buttons.
    Thanks! Finally something I don't need to replace. Now I just need to figure out what piano black is and convince myself I don't need it.

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    Thanks for the DIY!!!! Quick question; is all the data, assuming it is not wiped out by this swap, stay intact i.e. Odometer, Data 1 and Data 2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awdi4Life View Post
    Thanks for the DIY!!!! Quick question; is all the data, assuming it is not wiped out by this swap, stay intact i.e. Odometer, Data 1 and Data 2?
    Any of the data from the DIS stays with the DIS.
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    Yes the mileage is stored in the cluster itself. You will need to find a replacement unit that is close to your original mileage or find someone with a flash writer to reprogram your new cluster to match your current mileage.
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    Hello,

    I have Audi A4 B8 2011 y with red DIS, and a also want to update to color. I have found new inst. cluster with color display, but local service say this can't be done. I can't update to color DIS, and must have cluster with same id number. Can anyone help what i can to do ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zuti View Post
    Hello,

    I have Audi A4 B8 2011 y with red DIS, and a also want to update to color. I have found new inst. cluster with color display, but local service say this can't be done. I can't update to color DIS, and must have cluster with same id number. Can anyone help what i can to do ?
    Your local service are idiots, buy a cluster and local dealer MUST remove component protection, if they dont know how, let them contact audi AG! If not, find some other dealer who will remove CP or person who can clone your CP!
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    They tell me, it is not the same ports, and other on the old and new instrument cluster. If a dealer remove component protection, what else i must do to make cluster a work ? What is with coding ? he says in instrument must write vehicle ID number and other ?

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