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    Comfort Mode Throttle/DSG in Manual Mode

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    Decided to set my "individual" drive select mode to "auto" for steering, sport diff, and engine sound, and comfort for DSG/throttle. Use the DSG in manual mode now and it's super smooth even when driving very aggressively. Anyone else prefer the DSG in comfort and manual? Am I imagining things?

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    I drive that way , without using manual shifting and get both the performance I want with the refinement car is capable of. I do NOT like driving in S mode as car shifts much latter with higher engine speeds. Car is plenty fast and responsive in D mode without all the sound and fury of the boy racer S mode
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    Quote Originally Posted by jygesq View Post
    I drive that way , without using manual shifting and get both the performance I want with the refinement car is capable of. I do NOT like driving in S mode as car shifts much latter with higher engine speeds. Car is plenty fast and responsive in D mode without all the sound and fury of the boy racer S mode
    I have to agree with you. I always feel that downshifting to 2nd is a bit too aggressive in S mode. There were several times I was driving in S mode just for the responsiveness but other drivers wanted to race because they heard the downshift. I wish we have a sport+ mode like bummers do for tracks and a sport mode less aggressive than it is right now.
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    I drive in Dynamic everything exclusively and manual mode about 95% of the time. It shifts pretty damn hard. I'll give comfort mode a try

    I'm also TCU tuned

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    Even in dynamic mode my s4 is soft, I honestly only notice a difference in s mode, and that's just due to the slightly higher rpm...

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    This is how I perceive it from tamest to wildest.
    Comfort (d) > dynamic (d) > comfort (s) > dynamic (s)


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    Drove comfort mode around this morning. It's a noticeable difference. The car doesn't "jerk" when shifting like it does in dynamic

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    My 'individual' is set to Auto for throttle/dsg, and dynamic steering and diff. I agree, the dynamic shifting is too aggressive for normal conditions. I didn't notice a real difference when I tried comfort though.. Maybe I'll have to give it another go. Its just a little annoying that I have to set it every time I turn the car on..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBL R View Post
    Even in dynamic mode my s4 is soft, I honestly only notice a difference in s mode, and that's just due to the slightly higher rpm...
    Same here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sceanzo View Post
    I drive in Dynamic everything exclusively and manual mode about 95% of the time. It shifts pretty damn hard. I'll give comfort mode a try

    I'm also TCU tuned
    The other thing I have found is that a steady gas pedal eliminates rough up shifts completely (unless you're WOT and in that magical zone - usually 3.5K-4.5K or so, maybe higher - where you get the super aggressive shifts), and that downshifting in comfort with my foot off the gas (at freeway speeds) or with only a tiny push (and road speeds) does the same. Smooth upshifting especially seems completely dependent on that gas pedal: no doubt because the computer is scanning it to determine the appropriate rev match.

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    These gearboxes are pretty dim witted unless you shift them yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s42014DSG View Post
    The other thing I have found is that a steady gas pedal eliminates rough up shifts completely (unless you're WOT and in that magical zone - usually 3.5K-4.5K or so, maybe higher - where you get the super aggressive shifts), and that downshifting in comfort with my foot off the gas (at freeway speeds) or with only a tiny push (and road speeds) does the same. Smooth upshifting especially seems completely dependent on that gas pedal: no doubt because the computer is scanning it to determine the appropriate rev match.
    In case it isn't clear, I'm referencing manual shift above.

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    Not having the luxury of s mode, finding dynamic the only way to go. Auto is just so blah with zero response. I do find comfort nice when I have to behave and make everything smooth (wife, kids, parents in the car)

    Definitely found with the car in dynamic mode cruising on the highway it's much easier for the car to find its sweet spot when I put my toe into it a little. Manual mode is great when you going through the gears as comfort always wants to shift way to damn soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dls11b8 View Post
    I didn't notice a real difference when I tried comfort though..
    That's because there isn't. The characteristics of each mode is documented in the owner's manual and the throttle/transmission characteristics is exactly the same in Comfort and Auto.

    Comfort = Auto = D(M) = Balanced, and Dynamic = S(M) = Sporty. Everything else is placebo effect.


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    Quote Originally Posted by superswiss View Post
    That's because there isn't. The characteristics of each mode is documented in the owner's manual and the throttle/transmission characteristics is exactly the same in Comfort and Auto.

    Comfort = Auto = D(M) = Balanced, and Dynamic = S(M) = Sporty. Everything else is placebo effect.


    Not strictly true right? - auto switches between balanced and sporty doesn't it. Perhaps that would have an effect here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s42014DSG View Post
    Not strictly true right? - auto switches between balanced and sporty doesn't it. Perhaps that would have an effect here.
    Nope, it doesn't. Behaves exactly the same in Comfort and Auto. The throttle and transmission are adaptive. They adapt to your driving style either way. If you gun it in Comfort or Auto you automatically get dynamic like shifts and it runs all the way to redline instead of shifting early. If you are easy on the throttle it shifts early and feathers the throttle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superswiss View Post
    Nope, it doesn't. Behaves exactly the same in Comfort and Auto. The throttle and transmission are adaptive. They adapt to your driving style either way. If you gun it in Comfort or Auto you automatically get dynamic like shifts and it runs all the way to redline instead of shifting early. If you are easy on the throttle it shifts early and feathers the throttle.
    Interesting. My experience is that comfort is decidedly less reactive to your gas pedal than auto. And up shifts to the highest possible gear more quickly under a wider variety of conditions. It's actually very noticeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s42014DSG View Post
    Interesting. My experience is that comfort is decidedly less reactive to your gas pedal than auto. And up shifts to the highest possible gear more quickly under a wider variety of conditions. It's actually very noticeable.
    That hasn't been my experience. It also doesn't line up with other evidence. The transmission only has two programs. D and S, where is the third program that's used when in comfort if there is one. Also some folks in Germany have reverse engineered the ECU and they only found two throttle maps and not three.


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    Quote Originally Posted by superswiss View Post
    That hasn't been my experience. It also doesn't line up with other evidence. The transmission only has two programs. D and S, where is the third program that's used when in comfort if there is one. Also some folks in Germany have reverse engineered the ECU and they only found two throttle maps and not three.


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    If there's only two maps, then I guess that's it! As to where the third option is: Audi drive select has three for each setting in "individual": auto, dynamic, and of course comfort. But of course, I'm happy with whatever the evidence demonstrates.

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