TTV racing flywheel and B7 RS4 clutch

[Kaane]

TTV racing flywheel and B7 RS4 clutch.

Anyone running this combo? I am about to pull the trigger on it and wanted to see from people running it how they like it. How is chatter? Any other issues anyone experienced?

[rguil]

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...w.audizine.com

[vavJETTAw36]

Bordom runs it. PM him


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[WEBER]

I feel like I've posted an answer to this question like 5 times now...

[mauromj]

No one runs it.


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[Bordom]

Bordom runs it. PM him


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I have not installed it yet. Saving for turbos to do at the same time

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[vavJETTAw36]

What the hell man get off your lazy ass! :) just kidding man. I'm actually really interested on the feel. I will probably switch to it as long as it will hold 530 crank. Didn't mean to call you out thought you had done it.


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[Bordom]

What the hell man get off your lazy ass! :) just kidding man. I'm actually really interested on the feel. I will probably switch to it as long as it will hold 530 crank. Didn't mean to call you out thought you had done it.


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Lol No worries.

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[julex]

nobody runs it specifically but lots do TTV B5 FW side and B7 (modified) PP side, which is basically same thing sans the height and modified bolts pattern. As such, I can tell you that stock will probably be smooth like butter since that's what you're aiming to run. I can say that since my stage 3 with 8 puck fibertuff is super smooth and it has far more positive engagement than stock organic stuff.

Now, will it hold 500+ on crank... that will be a close call and as such, you should NOT do it and go directly for better clamping clutch, which I bet you will have some choices as there must be inexpensive B7 RS4 clutches out there that can hold more than 500. AMD rates their stage 1, which is mounted to modified (higher clamping than stock) PP at 550ft/lb. AMD is proven, so I would strongly advise to not donkey around with clutches and get proven set up. Get AMD Stage 3 (or even better stage 3+) and don't do the clutch ever again, if you're driving normally without abusing stuff to no end.

Simply saying, do it right, not twice.

[Bordom]

nobody runs it specifically but lots do TTV B5 FW side and B7 (modified) PP side, which is basically same thing sans the height and modified bolts pattern. As such, I can tell you that stock will probably be smooth like butter since that's what you're aiming to run. I can say that since my stage 3 with 8 puck fibertuff is super smooth and it has far more positive engagement than stock organic stuff.

Now, will it hold 500+ on crank... that will be a close call and as such, you should NOT do it and go directly for better clamping clutch, which I bet you will have some choices as there must be inexpensive B7 RS4 clutches out there that can hold more than 500. AMD rates their stage 1, which is mounted to modified (higher clamping than stock) PP at 550ft/lb. AMD is proven, so I would strongly advise to not donkey around with clutches and get proven set up. Get AMD Stage 3 (or even better stage 3+) and don't do the clutch ever again, if you're driving normally without abusing stuff to no end.

Simply saying, do it right, not twice.

Ok, cool.

So much for developing the platform and providing new ideas for performance, reliability and cost. Most aftermarket clutches for this use a B5 RS4 pressure plate.

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[mauromj]

I am running a ttv b7 flywheel with the cheap b7 rs4 clutch kit from rock auto. Holding well on my 5858 single turbo at 30 psi :)


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[WEBER]

I'm running TTV B7 RS4 flywheel and JHM B7 stg 4.

[DxC]

i recently learned the hard way you have to order the proper flywheel that is made for b7 pressure plate as the b5 plate stack height is 2mm less

[zillarob]

Shim it (washers between pp and fw) or put a 2mm thinner disk in?
Not that I would ever want to drive one daily, but the clutchnet ceramic disks run about 2mm thinner than an oem disk.

[jibberjive]

I've been away from the forum for a minute, but glad to see these people posting:) That is all.

[Hooblah]

This is exactly what I was about to do! Guys I heard a lot of stories about clutch chatter, what are your experiences with this? In your replies please state the weight of your flywheel.

[zillarob]

Imo, the worst chattering setup is a fidanza and a disk that has an aftermarket style hub.
I would honestly attribute most of the chatter people hear to the springs in the center of the aftermarket hubs not being as effective as the oem style.

I run a jhm alum fw with and oem hub disk and there is next to no chatter.
Pretty much takes effort if I want it to, and I drive like grandma and cross the 1800-2200rpm zone they get cranky in all the time.

The ttv fw with an oem hub disk prob doesnt make noise at all if you know how to drive.

[Monty23]

i recently learned the hard way you have to order the proper flywheel that is made for b7 pressure plate as the b5 plate stack height is 2mm less

So this is what happened when TTV screwed up my flywheel 2 years ago.. they sent me a B7 flywheel instead of a B5 version... Thanks for posting this info.

[Hooblah]

Pretty much takes effort if I want it to, and I drive like grandma and cross the 1800-2200rpm zone they get cranky in all the time.

Ok I can't read it if it's not in English.

[zillarob]

I drive in a manner that often has my setup in the rpm range that makes them chatter. It rarely does, or I have to try to make it happen purposely.

Is that more betterer?

[CELison]

I will be running a ttv fw and b7 rs4 pp w/ 6 puck disk. Just mocked it up last weekend with zillarob

[Audi_From_Hell]

I will be running a ttv fw and b7 rs4 pp w/ 6 puck disk. Just mocked it up last weekend with zillarob

What disc did you go with? I've been looking for different options.

[zillarob]

Think it was from Sean. The srm, b:b5, and clutch.net all look very similar to me.

What kinda power are you shooting for and how do you plan on driving?
There may be some better driving options out there if you arent planning on putting a whoopin on it like Jesse.

[CELison]

What disc did you go with? I've been looking for different options.

6 puck from Sean

[Audi_From_Hell]

Think it was from Sean. The srm, b:b5, and clutch.net all look very similar to me.

What kinda power are you shooting for and how do you plan on driving?
There may be some better driving options out there if you arent planning on putting a whoopin on it like Jesse.

I have k04-028/029's sitting here but I'm much more interested in either 6258's or tte 600's. I will be tuning for 91 most of the time but will be running an e85 tune in the summer. I will be running full rs4 intake including manifold, 2.8 cams, rods, and all necessary supporting modifications.

I drive like I stole the car pretty much everyday. I occasionally take the s4 out to track days but mostly drive canyons and high speed pulls. Car is on coils, rear sway bar, adjustable upper control arms all the way around, rear adjustable sway bar end links and rear tie rods, spherical front sway links, 17z up front, 4 pot rears, aluminum uprights, and I'm sure I'm forgetting things. 4:1 diff is next along with b6 3.0 01e. I'm not worried about having a "heavy clutch" or something super streetable, I have 3 cq's, a 4kq, and a b8.5 a4 so I'm constantly changing between cars.

Not a fan of clutchnet though, seen them blow up.

[Trb1]

I run a ttv flywheel and an AMD stage 2 clutch. Perfect setup imo. No chatter at all. Plus the drivability is fantastic. Easy to engage/slip like a stock setup, light on the foot, but holds like it's not even trying.

[Kaane]

Look what arrived :)



Going to use a B7 RS4 clutch with it.

[Hooblah]

Are the oe friction discs sprung? I would assume they'd be solid as that's the role of the dual mass.

[Bordom]

Are the oe friction discs sprung? I would assume they'd be solid as that's the role of the dual mass.

B7 RS4 clutch disk is sprung

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[zillarob]

Audi seems to like doubling them up to be safe.
Disk with oem center will chatter the least, aftermarket sprung center a lil worse, rigid disk is prob going to aggravate it.

[james 408]

Ok, cool.

So much for developing the platform and providing new ideas for performance, reliability and cost. Most aftermarket clutches for this use a B5 RS4 pressure plate.

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on just PJk04 my b5 rs4 PP aftermarket clutch stopped working at 12k miles. Heavy track and stunting use (clutch pops etc.). I like my southbend stage 4 extreme or whatever clutch I replaced it with (think it has a racing style aftermarket PP), but I'm with Julex as far as AMD goes, I really like those guys and their clutch product has the testing done already.

[zillarob]

That it survived 12k with you at the wheel is a testament to the badassery that is the b5rs4 pp

Whats that, like 3 sets of tires for you

[Royal769sr]

Geez

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[james 408]

That it survived 12k with you at the wheel is a testament to the badassery that is the b5rs4 pp

Whats that, like 3 sets of tires for you

probably 6 sets, minimum . Yeah no it felt great 'til it just started slipping -- like it was never super strong holding, but 'stocklike' on k04 power. We couldn't really pin down the problem but tried a few things before just scrapping it. It's possible I just glazed em so bad that I couldn't nurse it back to life, but it happened right after a clutch-pop, spun up, and just never recovered. It was people smarter than me that said it was the PP -- best I got for data, file it accordingly =P

[rollerton]

I'm going to order this setup pretty quick here.

Has anyone actually use the TTV B7 Rs4 setup yet? RockAuto still has the clutch kit for $900. It's ridiculous TOO EXPENSIVE TO BUY SO DON'T BOTHER.

[MarlinFoundNemo]

I'm going to order this setup pretty quick here.

Has anyone actually use the TTV B7 Rs4 setup yet? RockAuto still has the clutch kit for $140. It's ridiculous.

SHHHH dont give away the secret come on now!

[rollerton]

SHHHH dont give away the secret come on now!

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[MarlinFoundNemo]

(*ok...I fixed it.. ssshhh....)

Glad you fixed the typo! Way overpriced compared to other sources!

[zillarob]

lol

[Scotty@Advanced]

i recently learned the hard way you have to order the proper flywheel that is made for b7 pressure plate as the b5 plate stack height is 2mm less

There's alot more different in the flywheels than the stack height. Dowel pins are wrong size and the strap cutouts are entirely different.