My Turn - Car Accident

[draekin13]

I was at my mom's house helping her with a yard sale. Had my S4 parked about 20 ft in from the entrance of the cul de sac. 70 year old lady was backing her 99 Honda Passport down the road I heard a crunch and knew it was my baby. :( She rolled the tire up the front bumper slightly before she stopped. Of course basically no damage done to her SUV. CF lip is cracked about 12 inches along the front crease, doesn't look like any damage in the engine bay though. Lamin-X seems to have saved the headlight but the rubber trim or whatever on the back of the headlight is still messed up. Tire and wheel look ok at first glance but I'm not 100% sure.

[yjypm]

I feel sorry when I see this. I had a similar accident a month ago.
I was on a drive way and a woman backed up from her parking spot into me. Luckily only the fender needed to be replaced and painted, everything else was fine.
Glad you are ok and were not in the car. Really hope people pay more attention when backing up.

[whiped]

Two weeks ago for me.

Lady backed into me at the grocery store. Bumper needs to be repaired an resprayed.



@OP, wheel looks a little bent out to me. Might just be the angle. Hope everything is ok.

[Johnnycash]

Bummer.

Here's mine, most of it didnt buff out;(
Brand new 2015 Hyundai Genesis 8k on the clock. RIP






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[14S4GWM]

^Talking on the phone?

[Johnnycash]

^Talking on the phone?

she said she was "looking in her purse" so yeah basically doing something with the phone probably...

[Oloung1]

the hell... only thing i can say is that it's good everyone was away from the impact site, if they can't see an f'n large object like a car, most likely wouldn't have seen you or any little ones

[darkstarghost]

There seems to be a common denominator amoung these accidents lol. Sad to see and hear about all these

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[MagillaGorilla]

Here is mine. Please note the tow truck isn't pulling me away. That is the dude that hit me. Car didn't make it but I was ok.

[draekin13]

Oh the best part was she came back after leaving to take pictures of my car to prove that my car is to low and that is why she hit it. She said it wasn't legal how low it is, I had to walk away before I started yelling at her as my car is stock height. She kept raising her voice at me telling me it isn't her fault she couldn't see it. Not sure how you miss a blacked out S4 in the middle of a sunny day. In the mean time I am driving a crappy Chrysler 300 until further notice.

[SouthernBoy]

Oh the best part was she came back after leaving to take pictures of my car to prove that my car is to low and that is why she hit it. She said it wasn't legal how low it is, I had to walk away before I started yelling at her as my car is stock height. She kept raising her voice at me telling me it isn't her fault she couldn't see it. Not sure how you miss a blacked out S4 in the middle of a sunny day. In the mean time I am driving a crappy Chrysler 300 until further notice.

Did you let her live??

[JD23]

It's probably true she couldn't see it, but that's because of her cataracts and not the height of your car.

[draekin13]

Sad to see everyone else's cars here. That Genesis is bad, that really sucks that it was so new too.

Yes I let the lady live, my mom actually walked out behind me when it happened because she was afraid I was going to punch someone for sure. My mom feels terrible. Her car was blocked in so I had just offered to let her take mine to go get some food (first time letting her drive my car, she keeps asking to) and that was probably 5-10 min before it got hit. She keeps telling me if she had just taken my car it wouldn't have happened.

Her car had the spare tire on the back so I'm sure if she was ONLY using her rear view mirror she wouldn't see it, however that is why there are two other mirrors on cars.

At least since I used to work for a Toyota dealership I picked a shop we sent a lot of work to because of their quality, so the work should be good. I just need to make sure they know it's my car. I'm 99% sure that the bumper need replaced and it was creased/stretched from the inside, is insurance going to cover the RS4 grille or am I going to have to make sure I get that off the old one and swap it back, and what about the CF lip? I have never had to deal with insurance for an accident so I have no idea what is coming. Oh can I also complain about tires? I mean there is feathering and her paint all over the top of the tire is that going to cause an issue down the road? I don't plan on getting rid of my car for a few more years (plan on upgrading to S7/RS7 eventually) but what kind of hit on depreciation is this going to cause?

[14S4GWM]

^ You can ask for diminished value claim to help cover some of the lost money.

[PSUGOLD]

Oh the best part was she came back after leaving to take pictures of my car to prove that my car is to low and that is why she hit it. She said it wasn't legal how low it is, I had to walk away before I started yelling at her as my car is stock height. She kept raising her voice at me telling me it isn't her fault she couldn't see it. Not sure how you miss a blacked out S4 in the middle of a sunny day. In the mean time I am driving a crappy Chrysler 300 until further notice.

Wow. Just Wow. So she backs into your car and then tries to blame YOU for her stupidity and bad driving? Wow. She is obviously an automotive lawyer and knows the legality of car height. She definitely has you there. Fo' sho'. Idiots.

[fx_warrior]

Common them, with the exception of one.... women effing drivers.

[draekin13]

Wow. Just Wow. So she backs into your car and then tries to blame YOU for her stupidity and bad driving? Wow. She is obviously an automotive lawyer and knows the legality of car height. She definitely has you there. Fo' sho'. Idiots.

She was raising her voice when my mom was talking to her because she wouldn't stay for cop to show up. She told us this was her first accident ever, even though the driver's side of her bumper looked exactly the same as the one she just hit me with, not to mention all the other dings and stuff on her car. So pretty sure this is the only accident she has ever been in, that she couldn't just drive away from without getting caught. There was a good 10-15 people at the yard sales around my mom's house that saw it all happen too.

[Vanimal]

This is from today. Older 80 year old guy went threw a stop sign. I'm hoping and thinking it can be fixed, it's a 2010 S5 with 88k. Vorsteiner wheels are only a little over a month old and the rear wheel now has some lovely chips and scraps.

Car was pretty much mint before this nonsense :/ His car was barley damaged :/ Wasn't a high speed hit, but still looks horrible.






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[LYKUNO]

Oh the best part was she came back after leaving to take pictures of my car to prove that my car is to low and that is why she hit it. She said it wasn't legal how low it is, I had to walk away before I started yelling at her as my car is stock height. She kept raising her voice at me telling me it isn't her fault she couldn't see it. Not sure how you miss a blacked out S4 in the middle of a sunny day. In the mean time I am driving a crappy Chrysler 300 until further notice.

These cars are obviously hard to see! The 22y/o girl who nailed our car (also on a clear sunny day at 1pm-ish, failing to yield while turning left) said she didn't see our car because it was the same color as the sky. Hmmm what about the LED daytime running lights and the black grill?

This is from today. Older 80 year old guy went threw a stop sign. I'm hoping and thinking it can be fixed, it's a 2010 S5 with 88k. Vorsteiner wheels are only a little over a month old and the rear wheel now has some lovely chips and scraps.

Car was pretty much mint before this nonsense :/ His car was barley damaged :/ Wasn't a high speed hit, but still looks horrible.



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Sad to see this one, and all the others that were hit here. Ours is now waiting on a new front subframe because the alignment attempt on Friday didn't pass. The original wasn't visually bent, but was out enough to prevent a proper alignment. Onward and upward and all that ...

[draekin13]

Ouch that S5 is going to take a lot of work. I'm lucky that mine appears to be all body work that can be replaced, however trying to color match black is always a pain, maybe I can get the rock chips in the hood taken care of at the same time...

[draekin13]

^ You can ask for diminished value claim to help cover some of the lost money.

Just called her insurance and opened a diminished value claim for it as well. It will be transferred to the team that handles those on Monday to start the process. Thank you for that guidance 14S4GWM

[MrFunk]

Brutal - all of these just brutal. I hope the old lady's family realizes she may be too old now to drive. If she causes that kind of damage simply backing up I can't imaging how dangerous she is on the road at speed. I'd have been absolutely livid.

[14S4GWM]

Two weeks ago for me.

Lady backed into me at the grocery store. Bumper needs to be repaired an resprayed.

That's no repair, you've got a new bumper in your future. That diffuser is expensive too.

[Victor Newman]

Reminds me of the time I pulled out in front of a girl (110% my fault) in her Kia in my armored Land Rover trail rig. I crushed her entire front end in, and she left on the back of a flat bed. I drove home and got an alignment the next day. She was in tears chain smoking despite my best efforts to make amends. Pretty sure I totaled it, lol

[whiped]

That's no repair, you've got a new bumper in your future. That diffuser is expensive too.

We will see. Lady is being a bitch about it so it might end up being "no-fault" 😒

Diffuser ended up snapping back into place. (One broken clip)

Went to a few shops for quotes, just waiting to hear back from her insurance.

[MrFunk]

This just posted in chatter: LOL another woman driver.
Guess the Ferrari was "too low"

[PNWquattro]

Here is mine from a week ago. Just minding my own business at a red light. Was on my way home from Costco in the middle of the afternoon.

Car didn't make it but I was ok so I can't really complain. Got a new A3 to replace it.





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[whiped]

Damn dude that sucks! Glad you are OK!

[jimrobbington]

I don't even read these threads because they make me sad ;(

[timzcat]

We will see. Lady is being a bitch about it so it might end up being "no-fault" 😒

Diffuser ended up snapping back into place. (One broken clip)

Went to a few shops for quotes, just waiting to hear back from her insurance.

She can be a bitch all she wants it's a no brainer, she hit a parked car. There is no excuse for it.

[Leinad2010]

A similar accident happened to me back in january this year. One thing i will note is that the collision occurred on the drivers side of the car, and about a month after i got the car back from the shop, a wheel bearing on the passenger side needed to be replaced. I cant say whether these events are for sure related, but its something to consider.

[LYKUNO]

A similar accident happened to me back in january this year. One thing i will note is that the collision occurred on the drivers side of the car, and about a month after i got the car back from the shop, a wheel bearing on the passenger side needed to be replaced. I cant say whether these events are for sure related, but its something to consider.

That's interesting. Ours was hit on the driver's side too, and since the insurance company only authorizes repairing parts that are "broken", they aren't replacing the passenger side's wheel bearing. They are replacing the driver's side bearing, along with the strut and essentially all of the suspension components. We'll see what, if anything, we notice on the test drive when we get the car back (hopefully this week).

[draekin13]

Bleh that sucks. I still haven't heard anything from insurance or body shop if my car even made it there yet. I am wondering if my tire is going to be covered since the accident caused feathering and she compressed it all the way down to cause a mark on the wheel even. Not sure how great I feel about being on a tire that has any possibility of being compromised. Still trying to find out whether things like Lamin-x on headlights and the CF lip are going to be covered too. Not sure how that will be approached by the body shop. Hoping the fact that I worked for a dealership that sent a lot of customers their way that when I talk to them they can help me out.

[HMS]

I said this in Vanimals thread and I'll say it here: demand OEM. If there is pushback, don't settle. Demand OEM.

If the lady hit a parked car, she is at fault. No qualms there. Insurance will make initial appraisal and probably low-ball the actual cost of the repair. In their supplementary estimate (the actual one) ask to see what they are going to cover, line by line. If anything is not OEM, send it back until they change it. Ask for the CF lip. If the tire was hit, it should be replaced that's the logic.

This process will take about three weeks so make sure you are covered for rental during that entire period. If they repair takes longer than what your rental coverage allows, charge it on her insurance or get an extension. You have the upper hand here. Be nice to your insurance guy and your shop, but be absolutely ruthless with her insurer. It's the only way they will take you seriously. The squeaky wheel gets the grease and all.

Best of luck!


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[LYKUNO]

I said this in Vanimals thread and I'll say it here: demand OEM. If there is pushback, don't settle. Demand OEM.

If the lady hit a parked car, she is at fault. No qualms there. Insurance will make initial appraisal and probably low-ball the actual cost of the repair. In their supplementary estimate (the actual one) ask to see what they are going to cover, line by line. If anything is not OEM, send it back until they change it. Ask for the CF lip. If the tire was hit, it should be replaced that's the logic.

This process will take about three weeks so make sure you are covered for rental during that entire period. If they repair takes longer than what your rental coverage allows, charge it on her insurance or get an extension. You have the upper hand here. Be nice to your insurance guy and your shop, but be absolutely ruthless with her insurer. It's the only way they will take you seriously. The squeaky wheel gets the grease and all.

Best of luck!


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^^^ Good advice ^^^. We're expected to finally get our S4 back this week. Following reassembly, and during the course of the 4-wheel alignment that was being performed by the dealer, it was discovered that the front subframe was bent, preventing the alignment from meeting specs. The collision center obtained a used subframe from a 2012 S4. I have State Farm (as does the girl who hit our car), and they have a "Replacement Parts Promise" which states: "State Farm® keeps its "Good Neighbor" service promise every day, one claim at a time with Replacement Parts Promises. We're committed to your satisfaction regarding new non-original equipment manufacturer (non-OEM) and recycled parts used in the repair of your vehicle. Below please find additional information regarding the State Farm promise of satisfaction." In the subsequent "Disclosures" section, the webpage states the following: "If you prefer parts other than those included on the estimate, you should notify your repairer. Should the use of those other parts increase the repair cost, you will be expected to pay the difference. ... This promise of satisfaction does not apply to tires, batteries, belts, hoses, and other maintenance items subject to wear and tear. Our promise of satisfaction for powertrain/drivetrain components, and sound equipment is limited to the length of time that the original equipment manufacturer would have warranted its new replacement part, or the remainder of your automobile manufacturer's factory warranty, whichever is longer. ... In claims where we pay less than 100% of the cost of repair as a result of a comparative liability settlement, any additional payment will be based on the percentage of liability we accept."

We didn't want a used subframe on our car, so I went online and found what I was looking for at ECS Tuning. ECS had the front subframe for our model year S4 on a "Limited Quantity Sale" for $619, less than half the price of a new one. Fortunately for me, ECS had just 1 left in stock, and I bought it. Their website now shows this part, which has an MSRP of $1655, listed for $1387. The collision center said the cost of the recycled part was $675, and were willing to install the part I sourced, since the work to R&R the subframe hadn't begun yet. They updated the estimate stating the recycled part was returned and that the new subframe was being installed instead. I contacted the State Farms Claims center, and at their direction, sent an email to them including a PDF copy of the ECS receipt for my out-of-pocket expense. In the meantime, our new subframe was installed by the Audi dealership and the car was aligned successfully. We wanted to ensure the subframe and related suspension work was performed at the dealer to ensure new stretch bolts were used and torque specification for all the components were observed. The dealership and the collision center in our case are owned by the same company, and are only a few miles apart, so there's a close relationship regarding the coordination of collision repairs and subsequent work best performed by the dealer (e.g., alignment, headlight alignment, diagnostic code investigation and resolution, etc).

So assuming all goes well with the final detailing and test drives, we should be back in our S4 by mid-week. Can't wait!

[draekin13]

I stopped by the body shop on Friday before I went out of town for the weekend and the front driver's side wheel was quite a way out of alignment. I asked about the CF lip and the body shop has no idea how that would be handled because I got it from MassDrop a while back for 270 but replacement for Stvbek lip is ~800. She also didn't know about tire and how insurance would handle that. I should know more on Monday though. Just crossing my fingers on everything, I don't want to have to go all bitchy on anyone.

[ciombe]

She said she looked at her kids in the back seat while driving off from her parking spot

[SVG]

I’ve got a picture of a wreck I was in that will blow your mind. Only thing is I can’t seem to post pics. Is there a minimum number of threads before you can post attachments?

SVG

[DBFL]

I’ve got a picture of a wreck I was in that will blow your mind. Only thing is I can’t seem to post pics. Is there a minimum number of threads before you can post attachments?

SVG

Use imgur or photobucket

[draekin13]

Still haven't gotten a written estimate yet from the body shop however they did call me. The CF lip they are going to just try to do a cash out for the cost to replace with Stvbek (~$700), I need a new tire however she said insurance will only cover 1 tire so I am going to fight them with that because I don't think 1 new tire and the rest at 60% tread is a great idea on an AWD car... They are ordering OEM fender, bumper, and headlight. She told me it was $4965 without the CF lip or the tire. I also asked if they had checked the wheel to see if it is damaged and she said they hadn't checked that yet. I looked on ECS and they don't even make my wheel anymore (Alzor, their house brand). They also said Lamin-X they can probably order but they won't install on the headlight. So at this point I am pulling my 19" peelers out of my garage so I can plastidip black and I guess just deal with the all season tires until I get traction (pun intended) with insurance covering the other tires and just replace them in spring.