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    C7.5 RS7 Sub Upgrade

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    For those that are interested in a Sub upgrade for the RS7, here is my take on it. I'm no audiophile nor do i need crystal clear musical perfection at all times. The Bose system blows by all accounts but it's adequate for my listening needs. ie., radio, spotify via BT. As everyone has mentioned there is a definite lack of low end bass in this stock RS7 and thanks to our S7 friend, his mod inspired me to do the same on my own vehicle.

    I like to tinker and mess around with simple mods like this so if you like to do the same, this DIY project might be something to consider pursuing. If on the other hand you are not that adventurous or skilled, i would recommend getting a professional involved as it is time consuming and you need at least a little bit of patience :)

    I did an initial audio recording with the stock sub. I have a video at the end to compare before and after.


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    Items purchased for the install. Rather than online purchase i went to my local audio store to see what they had in stock. I checked online first and had an idea of what i wanted and they had it all in stock and on sale.

    1. Kenwood KFC-XW800F
    I was looking for an 8" size to replace the stock size. Also wanted a single coil rather than dual coil but either was fine. Simpler the install the better. This one is 4ohm so it matches the amp perfectly. I was also open to a dual 2ohm as well but this was in stock. Additionally, i wanted a low profile sub that would have a shallow mounting depth to fit into this tight oem space. Mounting depth on this one is 2-3/4" and fits well.

    2. Alpine MRV-M250 Amp
    There are a few important points to consider when choosing the amp.
    a. make sure it RMS ratings match up. ie., don't use a 500W RMS amp with a 150W RMS sub, you'll blow it up. Also, consider how much wattage you really need. Do you need 1000W or will 150W suffice?
    b. Buy an amplifier that has speaker level inputs. This means you won't need a line output converter because the stock wire for the sub can be connected directly to the amplifier for a signal. Makes life easier and cheaper.
    c. Make sure the amp only turns on when a signal is detected. On the Alpine amp, this is called "remote sensing function". Most decent amps will do this, just make sure yours does!
    So the reason i chose this amp was for all of the above and it matched the 150W RMS @ 4ohm on my speaker perfectly. I didn't think i would need more power than this for my listening tastes but perhaps if you want a huge amount of bass, you can go higher but remember this is an 8" sub so it's not going to perform as well as a standard 12" sub.

    3. A generic 8 gauge amplifier wiring kit. This power cable is beefy enough to run a 500W amp and it was cheap. You can find tons of these online.

    4. Polyfil for the sub box.

    5. Expanding sealant tape from your home improvement store. See further down for more details.

    6. Assorted tools including a heat gun, electrical connectors, wire...




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    Ok, on to the install portion.

    Stock view of the trunk with mat and plastic tray removed. To remove the sub, you'll need to remove the foam tray obviously and a socket driver and a 10mm socket attachment to remove 2 screws and one bolt, and then unclip the speaker wire connector. Easy stuff.




    Now to remove the sub, you'll need a Torx T20 bit. Sub comes out nicely.




    Even the cheap Kenwood sub is miles better quality than stock. What a shame the stock speakers are so brutally cheap and piss poor quality. Almost makes me want to upgrade the whole damn system!




    The side profile shows the conical shape of the stock sub and why, at least partly, it fits so easily into the stock sub box. The Kenwood shallow depth sub doesn't go as deep but it is deeper all the way around which is more important when it comes to getting it to fit.



    Now here we are getting to the most difficult part of the job. Getting the sub to fit the stock box. Firstly, i had to get rid of all these little plastic bits that were sticking out of the plastic and getting in the way of a flush sub install. They are there to orient the stock sub perfectly with its cutouts. I had to clip some off and then shave some of them down as well, there are a number of them to do.




    Next step will be to heat the plastic surrounding the sub opening so you can get it to fit. You'll need a heat gun for this so the plastic becomes moldable but not too hot! Don't melt it and ruin the box. This is going to take you some time and fiddling. If i had to do it again, i would basically head up the surrounding plastic and quite a bit and then drop the sub into the hole and push it around until it sits almost flush. I couldn't get it to be perfectly flush as you can see in this photo, there is a few mm gap that i couldn't get any better unless i spent a lot more time. It was easier to make a seal all around that needed to be done anyways. This solution is in the next step.



    I visited my local hardware store and picked this up. Very sticky, can be aligned easily around the circular opening, and expands to exactly what is required to minimize air movement. This is what made a good seal all the way around to even out any imperfections in the plastic sub box.



    You can see in this photo after applying the seal, the gap has been closed.



    At this point i would recommend drilling some small pilot holes for your metal screws. I used the 6 stock screws and 2 of the ones supplied with the kenwood sub. You'll notice that the kenwood has 8 holes for screws, the stock has 6 so the aftermarket sub won't line up with them all, you'll have to drill. Key here is to make sure you have the sub exactly where you want it to be and then drill the holes and screw down firmly, but not too tight to crack the plastic. The sealant will take care of the rest. I also wrapped the speaker wire going into the box with a bit of the foam seal to make sure there wasn't any air getting through that hole either. Before you get the sub installed, make sure you have filled the box with some polyfill. As mentioned, connect your speaker wire before closing it up. I used a nice 14AWG speaker wire. Most sites recommend 12-16Gauge and my setup is pretty low power so 14gauge should be more than enough.


    Here is the sub installed and ready to go back in the vehicle. Looks stock, can't even tell if you didn't know.



    Now I wanted to use as much of the stock setup as possible to make my life easier. I unclipped the wires right at the stock sub and used those to make my speaker level input connection. Now you'll extend that wire and fashion some connectors to get that signal all the way to where you want your sub to sit. I have mine sitting right on top of the stock bose amp using a few strips of velcro. Here is the speaker wire in the first picture. Second picture is how it connects to my amp (not in final location, just positioned in the trunk to see clearly).





    Ok, time to re-install the sub back into its original location and on to the power. Firstly, unhook the negative terminal of the car battery so we can work in relative safety! I believe it's a 10mm socket for this to loosen the nut and take it off.
    Here is the location of the finished power cables for you to peruse. Make sure you run your power cable (blue in my photo) as far away from the speaker/input wire as you can to avoid any interference in the signal.
    1. connect the ground cable (brown) to a bolt in the trunk. There is a perfect one left back trunk area for this. Run that cable as you see in the photo to the amp and connect.
    2. connect the battery/power(blue) cable to the amp on one end first, and then connect the other end to the battery terminal. you'll have to remove the plastic protector to get access to the connectors. i can't explain how to do it but it's easy, just remove the hinge by prying it sideways on both sides and it'll pop right off without having to remove the metal brace holding the battery in place.
    3. once you're done with all the connections to the amp and everything is secure, then lastly, re-attach the negative terminal of the battery.

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    Now, re-install all the stock foam and trunk material. Looks perfectly stock but with a lot more bass. Adjust your bass settings on your amp and enjoy! I hope this helps some people out here planning on doing the same.


    Here's a sample of some audio before/after. I think it comes through pretty well. Once YT processes it, should be available in 4K. Suffice to say, there is a SIGNIFICANT difference before vs after.
    The Kenwood 150W 4ohm sub seems to be plenty powerful for this scenario. More bass gain than what I have now ends up vibrating the whole back end a bit too much. lol. Cheers.
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    Awesome post! Thanks for the taking the time to document. My next project!
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    I don't need a replacement sub, but I enjoyed reading your post. You'd be a formidable technical writer if you ever quit your day job!

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    Great write up on your install. What is that device near your cup holder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeelBuff View Post
    I don't need a replacement sub, but I enjoyed reading your post. You'd be a formidable technical writer if you ever quit your day job!
    I have no idea what that job is, but thanks ;)

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    Great write up on your install. What is that device near your cup holder?
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    Whats the ohm rating on the stock sub? Also Bose isnt exactly known for their quality of materials , so it doesn't take much to upstage them .
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    CanuckRS- Great job!! Thanks for taking the time to get the detail added to this mod that Djpeaksd and QuaTTrings got started. Awesome "team effort."
    Ironically I stopped by my local "high end auto audio shop" today and discussed this exact upgrade.
    You are "right on" with the the input control. Although you don't have Noise Cancelling in your RS7, I'm almost positive this is where a few other S7's have gotten hung up with reverb and other funky feedback issues. My guys were quite familiar with the issue and pointed to line balance as the culprit. I will post the results in a few weeks for those with Noise Cancelling and get more details. I have no desire to turn off Noise Cancelling just because I'm not smart or patient enough to figure it out.
    Not sure how you mounted your amp but Velcro is a sub standard attachment method. My guys are fashioning a bracket that uses the same attachment screws as the Bose amp yet leaves space between the two amps. Can't imagine Velcro will hold up after miles of vibration.
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    You, Djpeaksd, quattrings are badass for this info. Definitely my next mod. I'm done with engine power, need moar tunage power!

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    Amazing write up!!!! Doesn't it make a huge difference? Hope your happy with the end result.
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    amazing writeup guys! the install looks simple enough!. I am going on amazon to find the parts! :)
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    Everything ordered from Amazon, including a heat gun. Just need to get the foam strips.

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    The gang is all here. Ready to install!


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    Very nice, keep us posted on the progress! :)
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    Fantastic write up! Thanks for taking the time to do this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckRS View Post
    Very nice, keep us posted on the progress! :)
    Just sent you a PM.
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    Canuck - what did you use for the remote trigger? Is there an existing signal wire you used?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ntsantos View Post
    Canuck - what did you use for the remote trigger? Is there an existing signal wire you used?

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    As mentioned in the post, i used the existing wires that were attached to the sub. The alpine amp i used has "speaker level inputs" so you just connect the sub wires to the channel inputs on the amp. See photo in the post.
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    Brilliant write up. You helped me with a write up to disable the tpms error and now this. Parts ordered and a six pack ready for you at some point. Thanks fella.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckRS View Post
    As mentioned in the post, i used the existing wires that were attached to the sub. The alpine amp i used has "speaker level inputs" so you just connect the sub wires to the channel inputs on the amp. See photo in the post.
    Right on, easier than i thought. Thanks!

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    Always a great write up from @CanuckRS. Now I am also getting the itch to do this. I was thinking of it when I read @Djpeaksd's post. Now I am literally looking at parts.
    I have a question- a 10" sub wont fit or wont be ideal, right? Asking this question since there is one brand new alpine 10" sub someone is selling near me for 75 bucks

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    Here's an update on my "attempted" install. Started off very bad due to my failure to look at what sub I had already. I have an A7 with the base sound system. My dumbass assumed that the enclosure would be the same as the Bose but with a shittier speaker. Wrong. It looks like this:



    Is it an 8"? 6.5"? Nope, it's a 5"!!

    So, feeling like a turd, I checked online to see what is available in 5". I found a Pyle (o'shit) for a whopping $12 available next day. Done. Here's what the POS looks like next to the oem POS and what it looks like installed:





    I first tried it out by swapping it with the oem and using the stock amp. From a scale on 1 to 10, 10 being Canuck or Djpeaksd level system, I would give the stock speaker a 1. The Pyle however raised the scale to about...a 1.8. Much better.

    About 5 minutes after stepping off the podium from receiving my "worst audiophile of the year" award, I ordered a used A7 Bose sub from ebay. So in the meantime, I installed the amp a la "CanuckRS" method so at least when the real sub comes in, I'll just need to fit Kenwood sub in the enclosure and the rest would be plug n play.

    So with the new amp connected to the 5" Pyle (o'shit), the previous 1.8 out of 10 now jumped to a 5.5! Not bad at all. If I already didn't have the Bose enclosure on the way I might have just returned the sub and kept this setup. Not earthshattering by any means, but for a total cost of less than $150, not bad at all.

    So overall, it was a good lesson learned and hopefully provided some knowledge for those with the non-Bose, non-B&O systems.

    Can't wait to install the real deal. Thanks again to the pioneers of this thread.

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    Ntsantos it's 1 am, I have a 102 fever, can't sleep and dunno if it is delirium or what but your post is hilarious and I just woke up my fiancé.

    Can't wait to do my install and gonna wait for that shallow audison sub so I won't have to mold box cause I'm lazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by agent47 View Post
    Always a great write up from @CanuckRS. Now I am also getting the itch to do this. I was thinking of it when I read @Djpeaksd's post. Now I am literally looking at parts.
    I have a question- a 10" sub wont fit or wont be ideal, right? Asking this question since there is one brand new alpine 10" sub someone is selling near me for 75 bucks

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    A 10" sub won't fit the stock box, not even close. You can give it a try though, let us know how to do it. Would be nicer having a larger sub back there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ntsantos View Post
    Here's an update on my "attempted" install. Started off very bad due to my failure to look at what sub I had already. I have an A7 with the base sound system. My dumbass assumed that the enclosure would be the same as the Bose but with a shittier speaker. Wrong. It looks like this:

    Is it an 8"? 6.5"? Nope, it's a 5"!!

    So, feeling like a turd, I checked online to see what is available in 5". I found a Pyle (o'shit) for a whopping $12 available next day. Done. Here's what the POS looks like next to the oem POS and what it looks like installed:

    I first tried it out by swapping it with the oem and using the stock amp. From a scale on 1 to 10, 10 being Canuck or Djpeaksd level system, I would give the stock speaker a 1. The Pyle however raised the scale to about...a 1.8. Much better.

    About 5 minutes after stepping off the podium from receiving my "worst audiophile of the year" award, I ordered a used A7 Bose sub from ebay. So in the meantime, I installed the amp a la "CanuckRS" method so at least when the real sub comes in, I'll just need to fit Kenwood sub in the enclosure and the rest would be plug n play.

    So with the new amp connected to the 5" Pyle (o'shit), the previous 1.8 out of 10 now jumped to a 5.5! Not bad at all. If I already didn't have the Bose enclosure on the way I might have just returned the sub and kept this setup. Not earthshattering by any means, but for a total cost of less than $150, not bad at all.

    So overall, it was a good lesson learned and hopefully provided some knowledge for those with the non-Bose, non-B&O systems.

    Can't wait to install the real deal. Thanks again to the pioneers of this thread.
    Another option you may want to consider is buying a pre-enclosed sub and installing it in the location of the stock Audi sub.

    pioneer sub

    I thought long and hard about this one and for just a few bucks you could get yourself this or another similar setup and figure out a way to firmly attach it to the vehicle. It would sound better than stock for sure with the sub being 10" and it's in a box made for that particular speaker. I may even attempt this myself down the road for better bass. Good luck with the journey though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by agent47 View Post
    Always a great write up from @CanuckRS. Now I am also getting the itch to do this. I was thinking of it when I read @Djpeaksd's post. Now I am literally looking at parts.
    I have a question- a 10" sub wont fit or wont be ideal, right? Asking this question since there is one brand new alpine 10" sub someone is selling near me for 75 bucks

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    Since you have a 2016 A6, is the subwoofer in the rear deck shelf (like my 2016 S6) or in an alternative location? I am pretty sure a 10"subwoofer will fit in my 2016 S6 rear deck.

    The A7/S7/RS7 do not have a rear deck and subwoofer is placed elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wwhan View Post
    Since you have a 2016 A6, is the subwoofer in the rear deck shelf (like my 2016 S6) or in an alternative location? I am pretty sure a 10"subwoofer will fit in my 2016 S6 rear deck.

    The A7/S7/RS7 do not have a rear deck and subwoofer is placed elsewhere.
    Its in the rear deck shelf! I will check how it looks and if a 10" seems plausible that area. Also, there is something I noticed- the bass is not terrible as a lot of 7 owners have mentioned with the stock Bose. Maybe the placement makes that difference on 6 vs 7??

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckRS View Post
    Another option you may want to consider is buying a pre-enclosed sub and installing it in the location of the stock Audi sub.

    pioneer sub

    I thought long and hard about this one and for just a few bucks you could get yourself this or another similar setup and figure out a way to firmly attach it to the vehicle. It would sound better than stock for sure with the sub being 10" and it's in a box made for that particular speaker. I may even attempt this myself down the road for better bass. Good luck with the journey though!
    I thought about doing that, but didn't do enough research on fitment before I pulled the trigger on your setup.

    Are you still happy with the Kenwood sub?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ntsantos View Post
    I thought about doing that, but didn't do enough research on fitment before I pulled the trigger on your setup.

    Are you still happy with the Kenwood sub?
    Only had it a few weeks now but yes, lots of bass for a reasonable price.
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    Great Install. I am thinking of doing this. Where did you apply the Polyfill on the inside of the enclosure?
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    The Bose sub came in today and I immediately went to work. Fitting the Kenwood sub in the Bose enclosure was a little more work than I thought. It took about 2 hours total and that's with the amp and wiring already complete. I'll only post one pic as I did a carbon copy of Canucks setup.



    When I hooked everything up the first time, no sound. So I had to unmount the sub and found a wire had slipped out of a connector. So that set me back almost a half hour. If I had to do it again, it would probably take 3 hours total, amp sub, and wiring.

    As far as the sound? So the previous POS setup ranked a 5.5 right? Basically, the new sub is a 10 and the POS gets downgraded to a 3.96. The bass is just so much cleaner, warmer, it just. hits. hard. period!

    I would recommend the POS setup for those looking for a super cheap upgrade, but spend a few extra bucks and do it right, you won't regret it.

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    DAMN BRO! THAT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE LOL

    Thanks for the write up!

    Seems like one doesn't need B&O and spend money here instead and still end up saving for tune and what not lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by agent47 View Post
    Its in the rear deck shelf! I will check how it looks and if a 10" seems plausible that area. Also, there is something I noticed- the bass is not terrible as a lot of 7 owners have mentioned with the stock Bose. Maybe the placement makes that difference on 6 vs 7??

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    Having a huge problem sourcing the amp and sub in South Africa. I can only order online and the shipping costs to SA are almost more that the components.
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    After rockin' the new sub for almost a week now, I figured I'd give a quick update. Man this mod rocks! Both literally and figuratively. Definitely one of the top 3 must haves. I've been playing with the settings and think I have it dialed in. The bass is very tight to where it doesn't cause any "high school" level vibrations. It's one of those mods that makes driving so much more enjoyable. I've been playing some of old school drum n' bass play lists just to push the system to its limits. Love it love love it!

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    Can this be done on the C7 s6 with no issues?


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    I have seen C7 owners fit a 12" subwoofer in the rear deck location with some minor modification.


    That said, I believe that an 8" in the tire well location is probably going to sound better than a 10 or 12" in the deck. Subwoofer location is probably the single most important factor for performance. The further you get the woofer to the back of the car, the less phase cancellation there will be from the back wave coming off the trunk lid. The best possible place to install a subwoofer is usually all the way at the back of the trunk, firing directly into the trunk lid where the license plate is. Not very convenient, but it sounds better.
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    Adding to the thread. I just completed a custom fiberglass enclosure for a 10" subwoofer over a couple of weekends. The 8" retrofit sounded great, so no issues there. I just had this 10" sub sitting on the bench so I figured why not...

    Went with a sealed enclosure for better sonic integration with the factory speakers and sized it to the manufacturer's specs. Covered with carpet for the factory look after deciding against using the yards of carbon fiber twill /resin for the face of the enclosure since its hidden anyway and I was over the smell of resin fumes/spending any more time on this project. Obviously no comparison in sound quality to the factory B&O driver, but compared to the 8" retrofit into a factory B&O (or Bose) enclosure, it drops deeper with more emphasis around the 30-40Hz and under range while similar or possibly very slightly less (comparatively to the 8") up higher.

    It will only fit in a car without a spare tire though ( which my car obviously doesn't have anyway) so that may or may not detract from its attractiveness of the project for some. It's by no means necessary as the 8" retrofit sounds amazing. I just wanted to show another option path and report back its effectiveness to the forum....




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    QuaTTrings, nice job. Are you still driving this custom setup with the stock B&O amplification? Would you do the custom enclosure again, knowing what is involved (I have made custom fiberglass enclosures before, so I know how it goes) or just 'settle' for the 8" W3 in the OEM enclosure?
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    Thanks Spoolin. I am using the stock B&O amplifier so full output level with the same wattage isn't dramatically increased under most conditions. Even though I'm now running a less efficient sealed configuration, I find that the factory power is sufficient so that the other speakers aren't overpowered with bass. With certain tracks that contain deep bass, it is noticeably louder at those deep frequencies over the previous 8" retrofit. To be fair, my comparison is based on my OEM B&O enclosure that I have ported (diameter and length spec'd to the sub manufacturers recommendations). With the external port, the 8" is tuned to the 35 Hz range and sounds amazing and louder in the B&O box than it did before the port. The OEM B&O enclosure is fully sealed unlike the ported BOSE so the difference was significant. Not pretty since it's an external port but I did not want to reduce the overall volume of the relatively small OEM enclosure.

    Would I do the custom fiberglass enclosure again? That's a great question. Well I love a 10" subwoofer and since I already had it sitting around, and didn't have to drop an additional $250 for another sub, the cost was only in materials - I probably would. Although what's nice is that I know the potential of this 10" sub with 500 RMS watts of class D piping to it, so if I get bored in the future there is an upgrade path too.

    Quote Originally Posted by TSpoolin View Post
    QuaTTrings, nice job. Are you still driving this custom setup with the stock B&O amplification? Would you do the custom enclosure again, knowing what is involved (I have made custom fiberglass enclosures before, so I know how it goes) or just 'settle' for the 8" W3 in the OEM enclosure?
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuaTTrings View Post
    Thanks Spoolin. I am using the stock B&O amplifier so full output level with the same wattage isn't dramatically increased under most conditions. Even though I'm now running a less efficient sealed configuration, I find that the factory power is sufficient so that the other speakers aren't overpowered with bass. With certain tracks that contain deep bass, it is noticeably louder at those deep frequencies over the previous 8" retrofit. To be fair, my comparison is based on my OEM B&O enclosure that I have ported (diameter and length spec'd to the sub manufacturers recommendations). With the external port, the 8" is tuned to the 35 Hz range and sounds amazing and louder in the B&O box than it did before the port. The OEM B&O enclosure is fully sealed unlike the ported BOSE so the difference was significant. Not pretty since it's an external port but I did not want to reduce the overall volume of the relatively small OEM enclosure.

    Would I do the custom fiberglass enclosure again? That's a great question. Well I love a 10" subwoofer and since I already had it sitting around, and didn't have to drop an additional $250 for another sub, the cost was only in materials - I probably would. Although what's nice is that I know the potential of this 10" sub with 500 RMS watts of class D piping to it, so if I get bored in the future there is an upgrade path too.
    Appreciate the feedback!
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