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    Veteran Member Three Rings themadscientist's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by amusante View Post
    Investing time and money should net more efficient work, quicker turnover, thus allowing more customers. Profit should not come through deceitful business practices. That's like saying a tow yard can keep your car for 5 days while charging you, even though you could have picked it up that day, because they invested in a tow truck.

    I get certain jobs have specific allotted times. What I'm saying is, the 6 hour allotted time does not seem accurate. If they had said 4 and I see everyone here saying, yep 4 hours is about right, then fine.
    Fucking hilarious.

    I didn't invest 60k in tools and equipment, along with the thousands of hours of personal time on training, education, and experience so that my time would be worth less.

    You're also asking for an R&R on aftermarket parts, on a modified car. Book time goes out the window in that scenario. They're covering their ass, plain and simple. Or maybe they just don't like you.

    Take it somewhere that will charge for 4 hours and I promise they'll make up the difference with the other shit they break in the process.

    You're not just paying someone for nut and bolt work. You're paying them because you trust them to do the job correctly and not screw anything else up.

    Check yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiTechS4 View Post
    This statement is talking shit to all mechanics "Profit should not come through deceitful business practices." let me know when you go to get the top nut off and the whole mount is torn in half and your trying to get a pair of channel locks in there to hold the mount because the nut is damn near seized . 6 hours isnt crazy time at all .

    dealerships and shops charge 1.5 book time straight from all data
    That's the worst. I always remove the bottom mount brackets and remove from underneath for that reason.

    Yep, identifix shows 4 hours for it too.

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiTechS4 View Post
    alldata is quoting 19-20 hours to do the job . to do the job properly by torquing the top nut you need to pull the engine.
    Technically, you can torque it using the adapter with the offset crow's foot. Similar to the ones you use with high pressure fuel lines. Not the point though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiTechS4 View Post
    This statement is talking shit to all mechanics "Profit should not come through deceitful business practices." let me know when you go to get the top nut off and the whole mount is torn in half and your trying to get a pair of channel locks in there to hold the mount because the nut is damn near seized . 6 hours isnt crazy time at all .

    dealerships and shops charge 1.5 book time straight from all data

    I did mine at a shop with a hoist, proper tools, and engine brace and expert help. The job took 10hrs because I was also doing downpipes. I'll never do motor mounts without removing the front end again. What a bitch that was.

    Quote Originally Posted by themadscientist View Post
    Fucking hilarious.

    I didn't invest 60k in tools and equipment, along with the thousands of hours of personal time on training, education, and experience so that my time would be worth less.

    You're also asking for an R&R on aftermarket parts, on a modified car. Book time goes out the window in that scenario. They're covering their ass, plain and simple. Or maybe they just don't like you.

    Take it somewhere that will charge for 4 hours and I promise they'll make up the difference with the other shit they break in the process.

    You're not just paying someone for nut and bolt work. You're paying them because you trust them to do the job correctly and not screw anything else up.

    Check yourself.



    That's the worst. I always remove the bottom mount brackets and remove from underneath for that reason.

    Yep, identifix shows 4 hours for it too.



    Technically, you can torque it using the adapter with the offset crow's foot. Similar to the ones you use with high pressure fuel lines. Not the point though.
    I agree, wholeheartedly.

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