GIAC or APR which tune to go?

[denis silva]

Guys im contemplating on what tune should i go giac or apr, any input on these bad boys!
09 A6 3.0T avant


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[KBRUCE23]

Honestly, they're both pretty close performance wise, I based my decision on which had a dealer that was the most convenient for me to get to


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[Indskyz]

So I went and researched GIAC and found out that you can get their stage 2 kid for around 1800. Which is similar to the APR stage 2 in price. I like that the GIAC has a hand held programmer so I could switch from the 93 octane tune to a 100 octane tune if I wanted.

What I want to know is does the APR tune come with transmission tune/ setting changes as well included in the price?
The GIAC has a separate tune you can purchase for the Shift tronic transmissions that is about $680 more on top of the $1800.

[denis silva]

[QUOTE=Indskyz;11792477]So I went and researched GIAC and found out that you can get their stage 2 kid for around 1800. Which is similar to the APR stage 2 in price. I like that the GIAC has a hand held programmer so I could switch from the 93 octane tune to a 100 octane tune if I wanted.

What I want to know is does the APR tune come with transmission tune/ setting changes as well included in the price?
The GIAC has a separate tune you can purchase for the Shift tronic transmissions that is about $680 more on top of the $
Yea im not 100% sure also if they do or not, will be good to know!


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[denis silva]

[QUOTE=denis silva;11793531]

So I went and researched GIAC and found out that you can get their stage 2 kid for around 1800. Which is similar to the APR stage 2 in price. I like that the GIAC has a hand held programmer so I could switch from the 93 octane tune to a 100 octane tune if I wanted.

What I want to know is does the APR tune come with transmission tune/ setting changes as well included in the price?
The GIAC has a separate tune you can purchase for the Shift tronic transmissions that is about $680 more on top of the $
Yea im not 100% sure also if they do or not, will be good to know!


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Yea im not 100% sure also would love to know more


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[Ynnekdude]

So I went and researched GIAC and found out that you can get their stage 2 kid for around 1800. Which is similar to the APR stage 2 in price. I like that the GIAC has a hand held programmer so I could switch from the 93 octane tune to a 100 octane tune if I wanted.

What I want to know is does the APR tune come with transmission tune/ setting changes as well included in the price?
The GIAC has a separate tune you can purchase for the Shift tronic transmissions that is about $680 more on top of the $1800.

The transmission software is for the dual clutch transmission in the S4. GIAC does not offer transmission software for the 6-speed ZF tiptronic in the A6. Both tunes are pretty close performance-wise. Only difference is that GIAC offers program switching if that's something you're interested in.

[denis silva]

The transmission software is for the dual clutch transmission in the S4. GIAC does not offer transmission software for the 6-speed ZF tiptronic in the A6. Both tunes are pretty close performance-wise. Only difference is that GIAC offers program switching if that's something you're interested in.

Thanks man:)


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[s4chiro]

are there any e85 tunes out yet? i may just try and add the 104oct file from APR if not

[SinCityA6]

The transmission software is for the dual clutch transmission in the S4. GIAC does not offer transmission software for the 6-speed ZF tiptronic in the A6. Both tunes are pretty close performance-wise. Only difference is that GIAC offers program switching if that's something you're interested in.

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Guys im contemplating on what tune should i go giac or apr, any input on these bad boys!
09 A6 3.0T avant


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I went with GIAC becasue of the switchable programing which in not offered by APR in the C6 model of tunes.

[3.0T]

are there any e85 tunes out yet? i may just try and add the 104oct file from APR if not

EPL out of CT does e85 & dual pulley tunes


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[Chris@EPL]

EPL out of CT does e85 & dual pulley tunes


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Yes we do E85 stage 1, E85 stage 2 or Dual pulley with E85 and with our flashing cable you flash the car yourself at home.

[dluxxx]

Yes we do E85 stage 1, E85 stage 2 or Dual pulley with E85 and with our flashing cable you flash the car yourself at home.

can our cars run on e85? besides the tune do we need to upgrade anything to make it fully safe to run e85?

[Chris@EPL]

Besides the tune nothing for stage 1, but stage 2 or above would need a HPFP kit.

[Ynnekdude]

Dude!!! You are ALIVE!! Where the hell have you been?

Hey! I've been around. Just lurking in the shadows. Hoping that APR's recently teased upgrade will be applicable to our cars. How you been?

[SinCityA6]

Hey! I've been around. Just lurking in the shadows. Hoping that APR's recently teased upgrade will be applicable to our cars. How you been?

Still doin' my thing. You know how it goes. Glad to see you are still part of the C6 Mafia.

[Chris@EPL]

For a limited time we are doing a Back to school sale time. For a limited time we are doing a deal on Stage 1 3.0T tunes and cables for B8S4, B8.5S4, B8.5S5, Q5, SQ5, A6, A7 and more.

Stage 1 with a flash cable for $1048 shipped in the USA.

Stage 2 with SC pulley, belt and flashing cable for $1748 shipped in the USA.

Message or email me at [email protected] for other quotes for Stage 2, Dual pulley, E85, DSG TCU tune, etc

[seanentrust]

Hey! I've been around. Just lurking in the shadows. Hoping that APR's recently teased upgrade will be applicable to our cars. How you been?

I already asked them and they said no 😞

[OmaHahn]

Still doin' my thing. You know how it goes. Glad to see you are still part of the C6 Mafia.

Hey! I've been around. Just lurking in the shadows. Hoping that APR's recently teased upgrade will be applicable to our cars. How you been?

Sin & Ynnek - 2 of my favorite A-zers!! Always have appreciated your input!!

[c@@kieMonsta]

You're lucky that you have a choice between the two. Here in Boise, there are no dealers for either....

[TheAlphadog]

Dumb question: for either tune option, do you buy the product from GIAC or APR first and then go to an authorized dealer to get the mod "installed"?

[SinCityA6]

Dumb question: for either tune option, do you buy the product from GIAC or APR first and then go to an authorized dealer to get the mod "installed"?

No, the "authorized retailer" of GIAC or APR sells and installs the tune. You don't pay GIAC or APR directly.


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[Indskyz]

Where can I buy just the stage 2 pulley without software??

[SinCityA6]

Where can I buy just the stage 2 pulley without software??

I don't know why you would want to do that. Adding the pulley without the software will not improve your performance. The stock ECU tune is going to tell the system to blow off the additional pressure.


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[Indskyz]

I don't know why you would want to do that. Adding the pulley without the software will not improve your performance. The stock ECU tune is going to tell the system to blow off the additional pressure.


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I have a guy here that does tuning locally on a dyno

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[denis silva]

Ahhhh! Let us know how it goes


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[3.0T]

Where can I buy just the stage 2 pulley without software??

https://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-C6_A6...ain/ES3082216/

Good luck....


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[Indskyz]

https://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-C6_A6...ain/ES3082216/

Good luck....


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Thanks. I'll be posting before and after dyno numbers. I'm having my exhaust installed on the 23rd, so I'll do a pull before and after that, and then next will be installing the pulley and belt, then the tune on the dyno. Only engine performance mods will be an AFE Filter with custom intake piping, custom 2.5" catback exhaust, the stage 2 pulley and tune. I'm shooting for 400awhp on 93 octane. There is 100 octane locally on a pump here too. May get a tune for that as well.

Until then....

[denis silva]

Yea please post some videos of the exhaust please, and results of the tune!


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[Indskyz]

Looks like I'm gonna have to go GIAC stage 2 tune. The guy that was going to tune mine can't because the software will not read the 8pin CAN chip in my ECM. :/ So hopefully the GIAC can get me close to the 400awhp mark. If not on 93 octane then hopefully the 100 octane tune will do it.

[denis silva]

Either way u gonna go up a lot !


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[ichi d]

does anyone actually have hp/tq figures of the giac stage 2 tune for the c6.5?

[3.0T]

does anyone actually have hp/tq figures of the giac stage 2 tune for the c6.5?

When I emailed GIAC asking that question, this was the response I got:

"GIAC software you will gain about 80hp and almost 30 ft-lbs of torque at the crank. The pulley adds another 15 to 20 hp and 10 to 15 ft-lbs of torque."


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[denis silva]

Apr is a bit more accurate w they're answers and graphics!
I might just go apr just because most the guys around me carry them , like jhm, sprint!


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[NickLim]

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I went with GIAC becasue of the switchable programing which in not offered by APR in the C6 model of tunes.

hahaha I recognize this guy also! I watched a ton of his youtube videos before buying this car