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    Oil Consumption Claims must be submitted before July 28th!

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    Not sure if this has been mentioned but the oil consumption class action lawsuit on our cars has an expiration date of July 28th. The settlement allowed for an 18month window of coverage for oil consumption related issues beginning January 28th 2015. I spoke with AoA and started my claim already when they informed me that I was lucky that it didnt happen next week as they wont be covering any oil consumption issues after the 28th. Just a heads up. So if youre considering going in get to it monday morning!

    I will aslo post this in the oil consumption thread but wanted to make sure no one missed it.

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    I have a quick question.
    I did some research prior to buying my A4, not long ago and it is said that (for the A4) audi fixed the issue by the time the facelift was released (late 2012' onwards)

    My vehicle is a B8 2012' B8 A4 with 2.0T quattro. ( It was built in September 2012') It has the facelift but still equipped with the CDNC 155kw motor. (the official facelift launch in 2013' onwards model i believe was equipped with the CNC motor, which has 165kw)

    Ive owned this car for approx 2.5 months now, and racked approx 2,000km. Looking at the oil level on the MMS, its always FULL, till this day.
    I recall that its said that some owners had experienced 1L per 1000km of oil consumption.

    Does this mean that my car was not affected, according to the claim of Audi fixing the issue by the time they face lifted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublespeeded View Post
    I have a quick question.
    I did some research prior to buying my A4, not long ago and it is said that (for the A4) audi fixed the issue by the time the facelift was released (late 2012' onwards)

    My vehicle is a B8 2012' B8 A4 with 2.0T quattro. ( It was built in September 2012') It has the facelift but still equipped with the CDNC 155kw motor. (the official facelift launch in 2013' onwards model i believe was equipped with the CNC motor, which has 165kw)

    Ive owned this car for approx 2.5 months now, and racked approx 2,000km. Looking at the oil level on the MMS, its always FULL, till this day.
    I recall that its said that some owners had experienced 1L per 1000km of oil consumption.

    Does this mean that my car was not affected, according to the claim of Audi fixing the issue by the time they face lifted?

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    Im pretty sure that if your car was made after the affected dates and you arent experiencing any oil consumption issues then you dont need to worry about it. The only way to be sure is to check your engine code or production date against those covered by the suit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublespeeded View Post
    I have a quick question.
    I did some research prior to buying my A4, not long ago and it is said that (for the A4) audi fixed the issue by the time the facelift was released (late 2012' onwards)

    My vehicle is a B8 2012' B8 A4 with 2.0T quattro. ( It was built in September 2012') It has the facelift but still equipped with the CDNC 155kw motor. (the official facelift launch in 2013' onwards model i believe was equipped with the CNC motor, which has 165kw)

    Ive owned this car for approx 2.5 months now, and racked approx 2,000km. Looking at the oil level on the MMS, its always FULL, till this day.
    I recall that its said that some owners had experienced 1L per 1000km of oil consumption.

    Does this mean that my car was not affected, according to the claim of Audi fixing the issue by the time they face lifted?

    cheers
    The facelift cars (and even the 2012 US cars, which were pre-facelift) are just about entirely safe from the oil consumption issue.


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    Please forgive my ignorance. I thought there was an extended warranty for this issue for 8 years / 80,000 miles?

    Owned a 2011 for 2 months and put about 3500 miles on it, burnt about half a quart so far.

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    I just had my pistons and rings change on my 2012, I was told that my A4 was made towards the end of 2011 that is why I was covered for the oil consumption repairs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoolin4jesus View Post
    Please forgive my ignorance. I thought there was an extended warranty for this issue for 8 years / 80,000 miles?

    Owned a 2011 for 2 months and put about 3500 miles on it, burnt about half a quart so far.
    This was my understanding as well but I called AoA today to confirm and the oil consumption extended warranty as a result of the class action lawsuit DOES expire this Thursday, July 28. I guess cars within 8-years/80,000 miles were covered but only until this Thursday.

    With this new information, I called my Audi dealership this morning and made an appointment for Wednesday to get the consumption test done.

    I'm guessing dealerships with have an influx of oil consumption tests this week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sferraro View Post
    This was my understanding as well but I called AoA today to confirm and the oil consumption extended warranty as a result of the class action lawsuit DOES expire this Thursday, July 28. I guess cars within 8-years/80,000 miles were covered but only until this Thursday.

    With this new information, I called my Audi dealership this morning and made an appointment for Wednesday to get the consumption test done.

    I'm guessing dealerships with have an influx of oil consumption tests this week.
    So it's 8 years / 80k miles OR July 28th 2016? That doesn't make sense.

    The letter I got in the mail CLEARLY states 8 yrs / 130k km. No mention of July 28th. That would be shady business if true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A4x View Post
    So it's 8 years / 80k miles OR July 28th 2016? That doesn't make sense.

    The letter I got in the mail CLEARLY states 8 yrs / 130k km. No mention of July 28th. That would be shady business if true.
    The way I understand it after my call w/ AoA this morning, the extended warranty covered vehicles 8-years/80,000 miles from their in-service date but only until July 28. Maybe call AoA and see what they tell you and report back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sferraro View Post
    The way I understand it after my call w/ AoA this morning, the extended warranty covered vehicles 8-years/80,000 miles from their in-service date but only until July 28. Maybe call AoA and see what they tell you and report back?
    Think about what you're saying though. What about a 2011 owner who has the issue...are they screwed? 2016-2011=5. So they get 5 years/80k miles? Makes no sense. Not shooting the messenger--I just think who you talked to didn't explain it properly.

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    Also called AoA today and confirmed you must start the process by July 28th 2016. I bought the car thinking I had a few years of this warranty...oh well.

    Currently around 45,000 miles and burnt 1/2 a qt over 3500 miles. Should my consumption rate stay about the same or is this issue known for increasing consumption as the miles go up ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by audigraph View Post
    Think about what you're saying though. What about a 2011 owner who has the issue...are they screwed? 2016-2011=5. So they get 5 years/80k miles? Makes no sense. Not shooting the messenger--I just think who you talked to didn't explain it properly.
    Agree with you completely. I don't want to spread misinformation - just trying to share what information I've been given from AoA. I actually drive a 2011 A4 Avant so I want to know for sure how the warranty applies.

    I called AoA again for clarification and the call was as confusing as the others I've had regarding the consumption issue but I think I've got the correct information now after speaking with two people, the second of whom seemed to know a good amount about the warranty and issue.

    Basically, there is an 18-month grace period from the lawsuit settlement date that includes cars possibly affected by the oil consumption issue but that fall outside the extended 8-year/80,000 mile warranty (higher mileage cars). To qualify, these higher mileage cars had to have not had an oil consumption fix before the lawsuit settlement and have to begin the oil consumption test process before Thursday, July 28 (the 18-month deadline others have started mentioning).

    Cars that fall within the 8-year/80,000 mile warranty can have Stage 1 completed multiple times as long as it keep passing the test and there is no deadline other than exceeding 8 years or 80,000 miles (whichever comes first). The person I spoke with also mentioned that as long as you begin the testing process before your specific car falls out of the grace period or warranty, you will be clear to complete the entire process.

    I hope this helps clear up some of the confusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sferraro View Post
    Agree with you completely. I don't want to spread misinformation - just trying to share what information I've been given from AoA. I actually drive a 2011 A4 Avant so I want to know for sure how the warranty applies.

    I called AoA again for clarification and the call was as confusing as the others I've had regarding the consumption issue but I think I've got the correct information now after speaking with two people, the second of whom seemed to know a good amount about the warranty and issue.

    Basically, there is an 18-month grace period from the lawsuit settlement date that includes cars possibly affected by the oil consumption issue but that fall outside the extended 8-year/80,000 mile warranty (higher mileage cars). To qualify, these higher mileage cars had to have not had an oil consumption fix before the lawsuit settlement and have to begin the oil consumption test process before Thursday, July 28 (the 18-month deadline others have started mentioning).

    Cars that fall within the 8-year/80,000 mile warranty can have Stage 1 completed multiple times as long as it keep passing the test and there is no deadline other than exceeding 8 years or 80,000 miles (whichever comes first). The person I spoke with also mentioned that as long as you begin the testing process before your specific car falls out of the grace period or warranty, you will be clear to complete the entire process.

    I hope this helps clear up some of the confusion.
    This sounds much better. Thanks for clarifying again and saving me a call to AOA.
    My 09 only has 47k miles and its burning a qt every 1500miles. So its still good in Audi's eyes, but it seems to be getting worse with time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkny View Post
    This sounds much better. Thanks for clarifying again and saving me a call to AOA.
    My 09 only has 47k miles and its burning a qt every 1500miles. So its still good in Audi's eyes, but it seems to be getting worse with time.
    Sure thing. I do welcome anyone else calling to confirm this most recent info I've gotten.

    My 2011's previous owner had Stage 1 done when they owned the car and it passed, but I scheduled a test this Wednesday thinking I had to get it done before Thursday. Even though I don't need to get it done before then, I think I'm going to anyway. The AoA rep told me you can get Stage 1 done multiple times as long as it keeps passing.

    He did also mention that as long as you start the process before your car exceeds the extended warranty, you're fine. So you better believe I'll be getting Stage 1 done again at 79,XXX as long as it keeps passing.
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    wow, you had me scared for a second there. I have owned my 2011 b8 for exactly a year today ans was just waiting for my oil change to come up to start the consumption test. doing my 12 mile roundtrip daily commute to work on local roads i burn about a quart every 2000-2500 miles but a trip to vail for the weekend with higher rpms and load on the engine burns about 1/4-1/2 quart in a 200 mile trip (roughly a quart every 500-800 miles!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pkny View Post
    This sounds much better. Thanks for clarifying again and saving me a call to AOA.
    My 09 only has 47k miles and its burning a qt every 1500miles. So its still good in Audi's eyes, but it seems to be getting worse with time.
    My 09 had 60k when I brought it in - was burning less and I got Audi to do a goodwill STG 1 fix - no issues since, maybe a quart every 4K.

    If you're needing to add 3 quarts minimum between oil changes I would swing by your local dealer and get the process started - you don't want to get stuck replacing that engine


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    They made it 8yrs so no one would be out of their coverage in the settlement as a result of time limits on the age of the car. They were more concerned about the mileage than the age of the vehicle. Over 80k miles they feel that you car could be consuming oil for any number of reasons. All class action lawsuits have expiration periods of around 18mos. They are not eternal. If you are only consuming 1/2qt of oil every 3k miles then go enjoy your car and stop worrying. My car was consuming 3-4qts during that same time frame. I filled it up on a roadtrip to Miami from NY and when I got home it was bone dry. 2k miles. 5qts and I put in a quart on the way back because my car was telling me it was going to shut itself off.

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    My 2011 had the stage 2 pistons and rings replaced last summer. It was consuming a quart every 1,000 to 1,500 miles. Ever since, it has not consumed any oil. I've changed the oil twice, at the 10k interval each time, and it showed the level being full. (I use Liqui-Moly Leichtlauf 5w40) I drained the full 5 quarts through my oil extractor.
    My car only had 40k when it was consuming that much last year. I now have about 62-63k miles.

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    We just picked up our Q5 an hour ago and it failed the consumption test. We are still under the original warranty. It will be 4 weeks until they can get it in for the repairs.

    Ours is a 2011 Q5 with 64k miles.

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    I went to the dealer and contacted AoA again a month ago before I left to go Germany and said the 18 month extension if youre car never has had any work done must be under 100k. So it worth one more try but I give up after 4 times doing this. Car burns quart 500-700miles and has been getting worse over time. 114k miles 2010, 6 speed manual. Thinking about going towards a 135i after this car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mahunik View Post
    I went to the dealer and contacted AoA again a month ago before I left to go Germany and said the 18 month extension if youre car never has had any work done must be under 100k. So it worth one more try but I give up after 4 times doing this. Car burns quart 500-700miles and has been getting worse over time. 114k miles 2010, 6 speed manual. Thinking about going towards a 135i after this car.
    Are you saying that even with burning that much oil, Audi has not cleared you for the stage 2 fix?! That seems absurd!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mahunik View Post
    I went to the dealer and contacted AoA again a month ago before I left to go Germany and said the 18 month extension if youre car never has had any work done must be under 100k. So it worth one more try but I give up after 4 times doing this. Car burns quart 500-700miles and has been getting worse over time. 114k miles 2010, 6 speed manual. Thinking about going towards a 135i after this car.
    If you burn 1qt/700miles, you should be well within the limit for Stage 1 and/or Stage 2 repairs.

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    Drain some oil during your stage 1 test and get the pistons fixed. Don't try the luck. Especially if you want to keep car for longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oascom View Post
    Drain some oil during your stage 1 test and get the pistons fixed. Don't try the luck. Especially if you want to keep car for longer.
    audi seals up and marks all areas where oil could potentially be drained. you think they're that stupid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjvwg View Post
    audi seals up and marks all areas where oil could potentially be drained. you think they're that stupid?
    No they don't. They didn't do anything to mine, just told me no to add anything and bring it back for Stage II.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Infiltrator View Post
    No they don't. They didn't do anything to mine, just told me no to add anything and bring it back for Stage II.
    weird, i know people that work/used to work at dealers in the denver area and all of them have told me they mark everything off and put something on the dipstick tube and drain bolts so they'll know if the seal was broken. surprised you didnt encounter that. makes sense to me, do you really think they'd wanna risk having to do a stage 2 fix to a car that wasnt worthy but the owner took 10 mins to drain some oil out? probably not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjvwg View Post
    weird, i know people that work/used to work at dealers in the denver area and all of them have told me they mark everything off and put something on the dipstick tube and drain bolts so they'll know if the seal was broken. surprised you didnt encounter that. makes sense to me, do you really think they'd wanna risk having to do a stage 2 fix to a car that wasnt worthy but the owner took 10 mins to drain some oil out? probably not.
    Or they just don't give a care since they know it's bad. I just know I'm getting my car fixed so I could give two shits!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Infiltrator View Post
    Or they just don't give a care since they know it's bad. I just know I'm getting my car fixed so I could give two shits!
    haha, yea i hear ya. Im gonna have my next oil change done at the dealer and start the stage 1 testing then. im hoping i can get some new rings so i can stop dealing with this and not have to worry about it anymore. If i can get that and have them do the timing chain service at the same time ill feel a lot better about modding my b8 once its out of warranty. otherwise ill likely sell it for something older.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Quattro View Post
    The facelift cars (and even the 2012 US cars, which were pre-facelift) are just about entirely safe from the oil consumption issue.


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    That's what I thought, I only mentioned because the CDNC motor (the one I have in my facelift late 2012') was the problem motor.
    Not long after sept 2012, is when the CNC version was introduced and was free from the oil problem. (im not sure if CDNC vs CNC are exactly the same motor, but with a different tune and different coils?)





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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerritt View Post
    Im pretty sure that if your car was made after the affected dates and you arent experiencing any oil consumption issues then you dont need to worry about it. The only way to be sure is to check your engine code or production date against those covered by the suit.
    any idea of the dates specified?
    as mentioned, my vehicle was built in Sept 2012'.

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    is it too late ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUBZERK View Post
    is it too late ?
    Did you read this thread? Did you call your dealer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RUBZERK View Post
    is it too late ?
    Just depends on your situation. Refer back to sferraros corrected post. I got in contact with AOA and had them verify my vin, just to be sure I was still part of the 8yr/80k coverage. If you have doubts, I suggest you do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Infiltrator View Post
    Did you read this thread? Did you call your dealer?
    i made the dead line, motor gets done next month.

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    AOA took 3 weeks to investigate and denied my claim. I was at 105,000 miles and failed oil consumption 1. They claim Audi of Brooklyn shouldve done the repairs before and that its between me and them to get it settle. I am so glad I started this thread and cost them thousands of dollars in repairs that all of you got done. So tired of these scumbags. Im currently laying out $1700 on repairs to my car in addition to the $2500 I laid out three weeks ago for timing. I will be taking them to court and suing them for every penny plus the odometer rollback. They claim I had engine mod performed in may of 2015 which I didnt as my car was at the Audi dealer at the time and they dont do that in Brooklyn.

    Quote Originally Posted by jjvwg View Post
    Are you saying that even with burning that much oil, Audi has not cleared you for the stage 2 fix?! That seems absurd!
    My car was burning 5qts per 2500 miles and I got denied.

    Quote Originally Posted by oascom View Post
    Drain some oil during your stage 1 test and get the pistons fixed. Don't try the luck. Especially if you want to keep car for longer.
    Best advice. Force a stage II. Screw them.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Infiltrator View Post
    Did you read this thread? Did you call your dealer?
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    i made the dead line, motor gets done next month.
    Lucky man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avantmaniac View Post
    Since I have stg 1 fixed, per Audi mine should be covered until it reached - 8 years or 80k miles with currently 56k miles on the clock.
    you're probably good to go even without having had the stage 1 done. contact AOA and have them check your VIN. I have a 2011 also and havent ever started a consumption test and Im still covered. they told me most 09-11 2.0T's are still covered under the 8yr/80k depending on model. not sure how they determine which models are and which models arent but my a4 is.
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    I'm looking at a 2009 A8 with 40K on it, owner says he's not aware of any oil fixes on the car. I've ready this thread and it's not quite clear to me if it's going to be covered if I purchase this car. Can someone please clarify for me?

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