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    Senior Member Two Rings sinful7's Avatar
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    01V Fluid Change On Jackstands - Speedometer Shows Movement

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    I'm on the final end of a radiator replacement / timing belt / everything on the top of the engine repair. I also took this opportunity to change the ATF and filter in my 01V, as I had to drain all the fluid out of the transmission cooler with this project.

    I'm following this fill procedure:
    1) Start car. Using VAG-COM, monitor transmission block 004 for temperature.
    2) At 35C, remove the fill plug and insert the ATF pump nozzle
    3) Work through gears PRND, going 15 seconds between shifts.
    4) Shift to P, get under the car and pump until dripping.
    5) Back into the car, move through the gears.
    Repeat until >40C, <45C

    When I put the car in R or D, foot firmly on the brake the speedometer starts picking up speed and there's clunking and noise from the transmission. I'm guessing the friction plates are not engaging.

    I've put nearly 7.5l in the case, and it always seems to be 'topped off' with each time I try to pump more in it.

    A couple of things to note:
    - The vehicle sat for a couple of weeks on blocks, so I'm guessing just about all of the fluid was in the pan when I drained it.
    - All four wheels are off the ground (obviously). This symptom is a lot like when I had a front axle break on the highway - But that was because I couldn't prevent the one lost axle from spinning, so going to/from drive was actually engaging the loose output shaft.

    Should I just keep repeating this process? It seems harmful to allow the transmission to 'pick up speed' but I'm not sure the fluid is getting into the clutches like it should be.

    After this kind of radiator change, should I expect to be able to add more fluid, as if a new fill (9-9.5L)?

    Thank you for your help.
    Last edited by sinful7; 07-24-2016 at 05:24 PM. Reason: Edited title because diagnosis achieved.

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    Senior Member Two Rings sinful7's Avatar
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    Here's the fault codes found for the transmission and engine:

    Sunday,24,July,2016,14:17:03:08533
    VCDS Version: Release 15.7.4 (x64) Running on Windows 10 x64
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    Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
    Control Module Part Number: 8E0 927 156 Q
    Component and/or Version: AG5 01V 3.0l5V USA 1213
    Software Coding: 0001002
    Work Shop Code: WSC 20213 444 53549
    VCID: 3C7781437C4AF2DE62-5124
    2 Faults Found:

    17095 - Transmission Fluid Temp Sensor (G93)
    P0711 - 003 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    18161 - Tiptronic Switch (F189)
    P1753 - 003 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent


    Sunday,24,July,2016,14:18:15:08533
    VCDS Version: Release 15.7.4 (x64) Running on Windows 10 x64
    www.Ross-Tech.com

    Address 01: Engine Labels: 06C-909-559-ASN.lbl
    Control Module Part Number: 8E0 909 559 D HW: 8E0 909 059
    Component and/or Version: 3.0L V6/5V G 0003
    Software Coding: 0016751
    Work Shop Code: WSC 63351 000 00000
    VCID: 3663936B4266288E94-5124
    4 Faults Found:

    17944 - Camshaft Timing Adj. Bank2 (N208)
    P1536 - 004 - Open Circuit - MIL ON
    17468 - Bank2; Exhaust Cam Adjustment Circuit
    P1060 - 004 - Open Circuit - MIL ON
    16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
    P0300 - 008 -
    16690 - Cylinder 6
    P0306 - 008 - Misfire Detected

    Readiness: 0110 0101

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    Senior Member Two Rings sinful7's Avatar
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    Additional information- The Camshaft Timing Adjuster Bank 2 is due to a missed connector, which I've plugged back in.

    Here's the VAGCOM screenshot:



    The vehicle is supported by jackstands at the jacking locations, all four wheels removed.

    I'm only one person, I can't be both in and out of the car to look at external concerns while I'm trying to be gentle switching it in and out of gear... But saying that I just had a thought that maybe I can use a PVR to be my eyes. Nice!

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    I think I've figured it out, and I feel pretty silly. The car is on stands and all four wheels are removed. The rotors on this car are not attached to the hubs. The wheel bolts hold the rotor to the hub, and with 4x wheels removed, the hubs can rotate inside the rotor hat. Facepalm indeed. https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/s...ft_Axle_02.mp4

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    Love being the only reply to my own thread; means I figured it out! Finally have the A4 back on the road after about a month of downtime and $1700 in parts and fluids later. Runs like a champion!

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    Good job! Congratulations for all your time and expense for the work successfully completed!
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