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    Eurocode install completed - pics and review

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    Yesterday I went over to Eurocode in Torrance. My primary reason was because as much as I love the power of this car, I hate the boat like feeling and the extreme body roll when making turns. When I had the car lowered in VCDS, I would rub on hard turns on stock wheels with spacers. The parts installed yesterday were:

    - Front/Rear Swaybars
    - Front/Rear Endlinks with dust boots
    - Transmission mount insert
    - Both differential mount inserts
    - Alu Kreuz

    I chose to go with Eurocode for the inserts over 034 specifically because they offered it in black and I could get it all done at 1 time here. The black makes it look stock and unless you know exactly what to look for, you wouldn't know it's there. The inserts definitely make an improvement. It's noticeable and considering how cheap they are, it's a must upgrade. There is no noise in the car at all.

    The sway bars, endlinks, and AK - Body roll is significantly reduced. They were installed together so I can't speak to the difference that each of them make, but in hard turns, the car doesn't rub anymore. The AK replaced a piece that looked similar however the stock part was thin and while decent, the AK is absolutely not flexing at all. That thing is rock solid and thick. On the freeway, you feel the road more in the steering. This might not be the right comparison but my wife's old 335 had really good steering and ground feel. I felt like I could maneuver that car so easily in traffic. I'm very surprised that the RS7 feels similar to that now in terms of road feel and maneverability. The car handles much nicer. Had it handled like this the first few times I tested an RS7, buying this car would have been a no brainer. All this power and great handling. I went with the dust boots on the endlinks because they are oiled up and should prevent me from having to replace any parts in the future.

    Total install took about 3 hours. Looks like I have a leak in my factory exhaust below - I'll probably get that fixed up when I put the downpipes on later this week. Anybody think it would be better for me to have the dealer fix that?















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    Also, if anybody is interested in my stock parts: OEM Sways, Endlinks, and Brace (thin version of stamped metal based on the AK design....only on the 2015, 2016 model car. Great for the 2014 owner that doesn't want to splurge on the AK,) PM me with an offer. I'd like to get these stock parts shipped or picked up ASAP.
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    Love those braces I'll have to order myself a set

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    How much did this all cost?

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    OEM endlinks need replacing too. They just don't make sounds so you don't know that they are shot. They are rubber so that also affects the handeling. You can see the stock parts in the classifieds. The OEM part is absolutely not a forever part. Lol

    If you get the dust boots like me, the bearings are covered in a boot that is full of oil so that it functions for a long time- probably won't ever need to be changed.

    Also, if you wreck your car bad enough to worry about how the AK will collapse, you've got much bigger problems as that would take one hell of a collision.

    Black sways would be nice. I'd have bought those if it was an option. However I highly doubt sways will void any warranty and if it gets that far, any dealer will eventually see that black or not, they're aftermarket. I'd rather my car handle well than worry about the color of my sway bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janthony6 View Post
    If you get the dust boots like me, the bearings are covered in a boot that is full of oil so that it functions for a long time- probably won't ever need to be changed.
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    Even with the dust boots my fronts lasted 14 months. My rears are still ok at 18 months.
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    Opened it up in S this morning - here's something new - super hard shift from 3rd to 4th gear. Scared the shit out of me. Is that from the transmission mount insert? There is no way that could be something people want to feel. Thought my engine blew up for a second!

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    Quote Originally Posted by janthony6 View Post
    Opened it up in S this morning - here's something new - super hard shift from 3rd to 4th gear. Scared the shit out of me. Is that from the transmission mount insert? There is no way that could be something people want to feel. Thought my engine blew up for a second!
    rs7's have very hard shifts if you stomp on it at speed, the sound is the most disconcerting.
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    Really? Never experienced that before the mount install.

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    Established Member Two Rings ekpyr's Avatar
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    It's the transmission mount insert. There's no longer any play between the engine movement and chassis, so you'll get those hard shifts. I've experienced the same with the 034 inserts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwhan View Post
    Too bad the Eurocode sways are red. If they were black it would look more stock.

    I am tempted to go this route on my S6, since I had this setup on my S4.

    Drawbacks:
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    Red sway bars don't look stock
    The end link bearings eventually need to be replaced every few years (mine was making noise after 2years)
    Not sure if the Alu Kreuz affects the front end ability to absorb energy in a crash properly.
    Do it without hesitation, I did and it transformed the car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wwhan View Post
    Don't like the red on the sway bars, since it screams, not stock. I would rather be more imcognito.
    Have you looked at https://store.034motorsport.com/034m...a5-s5-rs5.html ?

    I will be installing this with the 034 end links this weekend on my A7. I liked the idea of just doing the rear bar, and I like the built in Zerk fittings for greasing the bushings. Don't think it will pass for stock though.

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    Thanks OP, great info. I am a little worried about that hard shift you experienced, that is my only hesitation. But I'm thinking all the same mods you had installed for my S6.

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    yea that shift - glad i was in the car by myself when it happened. It was booming. I was nearly flooring it and thought i blew something up. if my wife were in the car, she'd have killed me. but i'm not removing it. the car is just so much better to drive now.
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    Care to share approx labor costs for all this to be installed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwhan View Post
    Don't like the red on the sway bars, since it screams, not stock. I would rather be more imcognito.
    Spray paint it black?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wwhan View Post
    That may be a possibility, but I wish they offered black, like other companies. I am in no hurry, since my car is still very new, only 1k miles. Need to pace my out the modifications to moderate the mod disease.
    Haha makes sense. Once the initial mod bug bites, it festers until it has consumed all.


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    They won't look so red after they get some road grime on them.
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    I've had my eye on this setup for a hot minute, thanks for the post - you've officially sold me!
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    What was your out of pocket, all in for this? Over a grand, I'm thinking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwhan View Post
    Don't like the red on the sway bars, since it screams, not stock. I would rather be more imcognito.
    We get it, you dont like red. Moving on.
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    Not likely to see them unless you spend a lot of time under your car. At least I can't see mine on my S4.
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    If you hang out underneath your car a lot and don't like red, like wwhan seemingly does, then this mod is not for you.

    If on the other hand, you're a normal human being who doesn't do this, this mod is an absolute no-brainer.

    Shop charged me about $300 to install the ARBs, end links, and diff mounts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4.2 Dreamer View Post

    Shop charged me about $300 to install the ARBs, end links, and diff mounts.
    thanks for labor price point reference

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwhan View Post
    Has nothing tio do with not liking red, it is a matter of not looking stock, when at the dealer for service (red stands out as modified).

    Just let it go, I have already installed the red sway bars on my S6.
    So what are your thoughts, do you like the change? Did you do the Alu Kreuz as well?
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    I got sways, end links, AK, trans and diff mount inserts installed by Berg Performance in Denver last week. Results are great! As others have said the car handles much better, but ride comfort is still the same. I have yet to experience ANY negatives from these simple bolt on mods. Very glad I did this, couldn't recommend them more!!

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    Do Audi service techs really care that you added stiffer sway bars..? The whole worried about red thing killed me.. I have EuroCode sways ready to install next week.. My car is not under warranty, but even if it was, I would be putting them on. Very happy with my first steps of AK and transmission mount. Gonna do differential mounts next.. then rear sway and end links ...then drive some more.. then front sway and end links.. To feel all the differences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan691 View Post
    Do Audi service techs really care that you added stiffer sway bars..? The whole worried about red thing killed me.. I have EuroCode sways ready to install next week.. My car is not under warranty, but even if it was, I would be putting them on. Very happy with my first steps of AK and transmission mount. Gonna do differential mounts next.. then rear sway and end links ...then drive some more.. then front sway and end links.. To feel all the differences.
    I recently had audi refuse to replace a level sensor because the car had sway bars on it. They know im a mechanic and shop foreman at a vw/audi specialty shop. This is also the better of the 2 audi dealers that im local to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alpine45 View Post
    I recently had audi refuse to replace a level sensor because the car had sway bars on it. They know im a mechanic and shop foreman at a vw/audi specialty shop. This is also the better of the 2 audi dealers that im local to.
    I am thinking I may get the eurocode transmission and diff inserts for my 2012 A7. I looked on their website and I’m a little confused as to which ones I need. I enter my make and model and there seems to be several options. An upper and lower diff insert and two different trans mount inserts. Can someone help me determine which to get. I am having my trans fluid and filter changed in a few weeks and would like to have this completed then. I am starting to experience some strange transmission shifts recently. Hoping the trans service and the inserts will help.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotta7 View Post
    I am thinking I may get the eurocode transmission and diff inserts for my 2012 A7. I looked on their website and I’m a little confused as to which ones I need. I enter my make and model and there seems to be several options. An upper and lower diff insert and two different trans mount inserts. Can someone help me determine which to get. I am having my trans fluid and filter changed in a few weeks and would like to have this completed then. I am starting to experience some strange transmission shifts recently. Hoping the trans service and the inserts will help.


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    I have their inserts on mine. The trans billet piece u need is called c7 billet. The b8 trans is not for this car. I've talked to someone who has done all of this. Although it makes it smoother, he said that kickdown is still noticeable but subtle. Also maybe try better spark plugs and r8 coils. Maybe throwing a slight misfire. Idk if the coils make a difference because from what I've seen it's a debatable discussion (any insights if they ignite hotter?). I'm doing all that and a carbon clean soon. Carbon buildup is a huge problem with DI engines.

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