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    Veteran Member Four Rings CELison's Avatar
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    Stage 3 B5 vs Stage 2 B8

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    K04s, 24psi, normal bolt ons. B8 is mine, GIAC stage 2 on E85/93 mix.

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    Damn. K04s getting whooped.

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    Well that's disconcerting.....I like the b8's but can't seem to bring myself to sell the b5


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    Love it! Is there flex fuel support for the b8?

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    there is a local one here.. stage2, (pulley, tune), exhaust, etc. 94 octane..

    vs my k04/meth/94 octane, standard supporting mods


    I freight train him by 4rth, but he kept up pretty good first part of third.

    I wont mention who he is, but he's tuned a lot of cars, so im confident the car was running as well as it could be...



    That e85 is just not fair.


    Ran a built motor FRS on e85 and he edged me out.... granted I had a 250lb passenger, but still. Yikes.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings CELison's Avatar
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    After the owner saw the video the excuses came. He didn't say anything after we raced besides "what the fuck, that car shouldn't be that fast"
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    Quote Originally Posted by S4James View Post
    there is a local one here.. stage2, (pulley, tune), exhaust, etc. 94 octane..

    vs my k04/meth/94 octane, standard supporting mods


    I freight train him by 4rth, but he kept up pretty good first part of third.

    I wont mention who he is, but he's tuned a lot of cars, so im confident the car was running as well as it could be...



    That e85 is just not fair.


    Ran a built motor FRS on e85 and he edged me out.... granted I had a 250lb passenger, but still. Yikes.

    magic sauce.
    Yea no shit. I run a switchable e85/93 since e85 is 25 miles away. 93 doesn't even give me any feeling anymore. Our relationship is over!!!!! I love you e85


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    Veteran Member Four Rings CELison's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ianwpb View Post
    Is his car TIP?
    6 spd
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    if the damn stuff was around here more id totally run it. I think there is literally one station that sells it in town.


    What fueling mods need to be done to support e85 on that motor?

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    None. Stock fueling, stock cooling. It's got a flash and some shit to make it louder. That's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CELison View Post
    None. Stock fueling, stock cooling. It's got a flash and some shit to make it louder. That's it.

    impressive....

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    saw this on instagram the owner of the b5 wasent very happy lol
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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    Quote Originally Posted by CELison View Post
    K04s, 24psi, normal bolt ons. B8 is mine, GIAC stage 2 on E85/93 mix.

    I just watched this in the AM today...I must follow your youtube account, I had the notification on my phone. Pretty awesome those B8's, I wouldn't mind a 6 speed daily driver. Videos like this made me go with rs6 style turbos, so I would pull on the top..... really strong hahaha
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    Veteran Member Four Rings CELison's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by hibiscusS4 View Post
    saw this on instagram the owner of the b5 wasent very happy lol
    What's Medina's name on the gram?
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    Somewhere_in_mexico


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    01 s4 f21 on meth sold
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    Finish your B5 now...come back to the dark side

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    Senior Member Three Rings
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    I do not think its a proper running b5...but not the less the b8 are going good with this basic boltons .
    Regards.

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    That first pull was brutal. B5 was lost. The B5 is pump right? He needs E85.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuinnsterKID View Post
    That first pull was brutal. B5 was lost. The B5 is pump right? He needs E85.
    It would have been a different outcome on E85 I think (assuming the car is running properly), but damn it Celison get your damn B5 back on the road! Stop playing with the B8.
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    Lol that's a stage 3 car?
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    lets see a pump gas on pump gas ....aka 91, 93, 94 ...whatever it is you have local, same fuel in each car, that might be a little bit better of a race.... although maybe not...that b8 is dsg right??(I don't ever see you move your hands)....saves a lot of time and mistakes
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    Veteran Member Four Rings CELison's Avatar
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    It's dsg. It saves time, but not mistakes. Your boy doesn't miss gears. Not evva
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    Veteran Member Four Rings NOTORIOUS VR's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurotuned_A4 View Post
    Lol that's a stage 3 car?
    It's a K04 car... most of them just aren't that fast.

    STG2 B8 on E85 mix is at the minimum a 120 MPH car. Majority of K04 cars don't come close to that on pump.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOTORIOUS VR View Post
    It's a K04 car... most of them just aren't that fast.

    STG2 B8 on E85 mix is at the minimum a 120 MPH car. Majority of K04 cars don't come close to that on pump.
    again this is why I have rs6ers!!!!!! for those freeway speeds!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by axnjaksn View Post
    again this is why I have rs6ers!!!!!! for those freeway speeds!!!!
    Calm down junior
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    That supercharger whine tho!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by axnjaksn View Post
    again this is why I have rs6ers!!!!!! for those freeway speeds!!!!
    By the time you get into boost with RS6s, he would have about 8 cars on you. B8s are instant power with linear top end.
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    was the k04 car running meth injection? i wonder if that would have changed the outcome, more ignition timing = vtec just kicked in, yo. Its kind of sad to switch back to 91 piss water after using e85, gas mileage is horrendous though

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    The b5 is running FTG RS6 turbos, also claims to have had issues BUT if hes not on e85 and "healthy" he still isn't winning. Brett's f21 car kept barely losing to a tuned 93oct b8 in that epic youtube video. Basically b8's on e85 are the shit, keep the kill vids coming and hope to see the b5 again soon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CELison View Post
    None. Stock fueling, stock cooling. It's got a flash and some shit to make it louder. That's it.
    Does stage 2 include a blower pulley swap too or no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by getslideways View Post
    Does stage 2 include a blower pulley swap too or no?
    Yes. I have a smaller pulley.
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    How much boost are you running with the smaller pulley and tune? B8's are nice. I dig both cars.

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    Why do people have to make excuses?

    Stage 2 B8 with e85 is not going to be something to mess around with.

    I'm not surprised at all with this outcome.

    I hate to be that guy, but if he really is running FTG snails then I can't help but question how the car was put together.

    Good run! You should have come out to S4RW16 with that beast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by audi-hammer View Post
    The b5 is running FTG RS6 turbos, also claims to have had issues BUT if hes not on e85 and "healthy" he still isn't winning. Brett's f21 car kept barely losing to a tuned 93oct b8 in that epic youtube video. Basically b8's on e85 are the shit, keep the kill vids coming and hope to see the b5 again soon!

    I dont really agree with this.. Ive been doing the odd freindly pull with a well sorted B8 and have never had an issue with pulling on him. Pump gas vs pump gas mind you. Just K04 hybrids and a VAST tune here.

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    Like B5s, E85 for B8s is night and day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devious27t View Post
    By the time you get into boost with RS6s, he would have about 8 cars on you. B8s are instant power with linear top end.
    I beg to differ, he would have jumped me but ive raced a B8 with the stage 2 pulley, tune, full pipes, open airbox intake, trans software and e85(basically everything minus a full supercharger upgrade)... and an asshole behind the wheel hahahaha he jumped me every time, but by the end of third and into 4th(for me at least) I was flying by him...like all those big turbo videos you see with any other cars....big boost always wins!!!! of course Im sure people can argue this is all dependent upon tune and supporting mods with my turbos...truth is it happened that way several times....so he traded up for a CLS63 AMG...again because he is that guy... we went again and he couldn't get away from me, nose to nose by the end of 3rd...no 4th this time due to traffic but im confident I would have been gone once in 4th.....and because he is an ass, he said "once I break 50k mileage on this car, Ill get tuned, then we will race again" hahaha im sure he will blow the doors off me then

    he would spank me at the 1/4 track in the B8 and did, all day every day....those B8's are quick out of the hole... hence why I would love one of those in my garage too....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CELison View Post
    Calm down junior
    lolol

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    sorry I just get too excited....ill calm down now
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    cant insert funny clip - work computer sucks!!!

    insert clip from Tommy Boy - *jojo the circus idiot all hyped up scene in the diner*

    hahaha
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    there's something wrong with that k04 car. If I look at your speedometer, and him falling back, i'm just confused.

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    Even an RS6 car will not fly by me after 100 on pump. It might win, but not be that much. I raced Boomer in my f21 car when he was OEM RS6 turbos + meth and barely got me. Mostly because he had built heads and could rev out when I was shifting. He was 2.9ish FATS at the time. My B8 at least feels just as fast as my b5 was. When I was at AWE, our B8 put down 430whp on race gas with full bolt ons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by james 408 View Post
    there's something wrong with that k04 car. If I look at your speedometer, and him falling back, i'm just confused.
    He claims it was tapering to 19psi. Still though....
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