Fun oil ideas 300V Le Mans 20W60

[jacobsen]

So it is said that the 300v oil is not recommended for extended drain. However I read in a forum that someone used a 10000 mile interval width 300v 5w40. They came out with a very respectable Blackstone analysis. And I got to thinking... I always use motul 5W40 or 0w40. But what about this 300v stuff that's all the rage... Well traditionally speaking the 300v 5w40 or 0w40 formulations may not be recommended for extended use. But what about the LeMans version of it? That must be made for extended use. So I'm thinking about doing an oil change before my big long road trip. I can either stick with what I've been doing which seems to be working. Or for the same price plus a couple dollars I can try the LeMans 300 V. This trip is going to be over six thousand miles. I thought it would be kind of fun to try it out.

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[old guy]

There is absolutely no reason to run a 20w60 oil in the 1.8T. You will get poor cold circulation and decreased gas mileage once up to temperature. Stick with a 0w40 or 5w40.

[jacobsen]

Silly idea..

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[old guy]

Silly idea..

Yep.

[jacobsen]

Would you discourage 300v 0w40 for extended drain?

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[jacobsen]

The thing I guess I don't get is that the Ester core is their best product. I would have thought that would be best for extended drain since they don't break down at all. But they recommend not doing it.

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[old guy]

As long as you are using a decent synthetic oil extended OCI's have more to do with your driving style than the oil itself. You will read all kinds of arguments about group III, group IV, group V, high Esters, low Phosphorus, blah blah blah. The bottom line is if you do a lot of stop and go driving change your oil more often. If you are doing a lot of Interstate driving you can extend your OCI.

I'll give you some real world examples. The day before I purchased my A4 I purchased a 2003 MB C230 Kompressor. It came without a dipstick. It used an algorithm that told you when to change your oil. I used Mobil-1 0w40 exclusively in that engine. The typical suggested OCI was in the 15k to 16K mile range. By the time I replaced it in 2009 it had 250K miles on the engine and I never added more than 1 quart of oil between the 15k OCI intervals. It ran just as strong at 250K as it did new.

In 2009 I replaced the MB 230K with a VW CC VR6. I change the oil every 10K miles on the CC. It now has 255K miles on it and I have never add oil between oil changes. Obviously both cars are Interstate cruisers. The A4 has only logged 225K miles during that time frame. Consequently my OCI on the A4 is lower. I change the B6 every 5K miles. I could probably go further but I chose not to mess with what works. At 225K miles I have never added more than ½ quart between changes. The engine was chipped at 1,200 miles, big injector file at 50K miles and I installed the F21L at 200K miles.

The bottom line is use synthetics and change your oil according to your driving practices. Lots of highway? Extend it to 10K. Lots of stop and go? Drop it to 5K. Live 5 miles from work? Change it every 3K. If you are really all that concerned you can spend $25 and get a Blackstone generic report that will make you feel good as long as you aren't abusing your engine. It will give you a boilerplate response (unless you are really abusing your engine and in that case you probably aren't interested in the report anyway) and adjust your OCI from there.

[imnuts]

The only reason I'd see one would want to use a 20W60 oil in the engine is if you were taking your car competitively on a regular basis. Other than that, get a good synthetic. The XCess 8100 is ester based as far as I know as well if you want a good Motul oil. There are other good group 4 & 5 synthetic oils or there as well. In any case, how you drive your car is going to affect oil life more than the oil you use in my opinion.

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[old guy]

The only reason I'd see one would want to use a 20W60 oil in the engine is if you were taking your car competitively on a regular basis. Other than that, get a good synthetic. The XCess 8100 is ester based as far as I know as well if you want a good Motul oil. There are other good group 4 & 5 synthetic oils or there as well. In any case, how you drive your car is going to affect oil life more than the oil you use in my opinion.

LOL!! We both posted the same thing at the same time but I was way too wordy with my response.

[hightime80]

Are you a traveling salesman OG? Lol. Those are some serious milage you've compiled your vehicles. I live in the burbs and work in the city and even with all the lollygagging I do in town I still only manage to put down 8k miles a year. It's a good thing I guess. Less hydrocarbons for the enviroment😝

[old guy]

Are you a traveling salesman OG? Lol. Those are some serious mileage you've compiled your vehicles. I live in the burbs and work in the city and even with all the lollygagging I do in town I still only manage to put down 8k miles a year. It's a good thing I guess. Less hydrocarbons for the environment😝

I drove them occasionally but my wife has been the primary driver of the MB 230K and CC VR6. Her job obviously requires some serious driving. She has logged over 500k miles in the time I have driven 225K miles.

Time to replace the VR6. We are still trying to figure out what's next.....

[hightime80]

I didnt even vr6s were still around. Love the narrow angle 2.8 liter beast in my mk3 jetta. Not to thread jack but I do drive in a lot of city traffic. I have used liquid moly 5w40 and mobile1 0w40 in the past with mann 940/25. Going to use the rotella t6 on my next change. My OCI is about 4k as determined by me. You dont think that isnt overkill do you? I have mininum oil consumption in between since I replaced all my pcv system along with vcg, ctg and half moon.

[old guy]

I didnt even vr6s were still around. Love the narrow angle 2.8 liter beast in my mk3 jetta. Not to thread jack but I do drive in a lot of city traffic. I have used liquid moly 5w40 and mobile1 0w40 in the past with mann 940/25. Going to use the rotella t6 on my next change. My OCI is about 4k as determined by me. You dont think that isnt overkill do you? I have mininum oil consumption in between since I replaced all my pcv system along with vcg, ctg and half moon.

The 2009 VR6 came with a 3.6L 280HP / 265LB-TQ engine. The Unitronic chip took it to 308HP / 289LB-TQ. Definitely a beast of an engine.

For your driving I think a 4K OCI is perfect. Others may say it is overkill but I see it as cheap insurance.