Best bang for buck mods on the 2.0T ???

[Valve_Cover]

Hey guys, just got myself into a B7 after 2 years in a MK6 GTI and 5 years in B6 1.8T. I'm looking to give it a little more bite (these cars are god awful slow in stock form). I don't want to go crazy since this is just a DD that will see lots of snow, but I'm just wondering where I'll get the best bumps in power for my money?

I've been thinking:
- Unitronic stage 1+
- Test Pipe
- Carbonio intake (Not really sure if intakes add any actual power on these cars)
- Downpipe maybe

What do you guys think is the best for these engines? Are these good bets, and what else would you do?

[adam044]

JHM tune, turbo back exhaust.

Carbonio wont do anything for power but, they do look good and sound good. Which is why I got one. I'd also never pay full price one, look for a used one in good condition for around $200-$300

[james12lucy]

Tune, HFC/test pipe, exhaust, HPFP, intercooler, injectors, turbo. In that order for engine.

RS4 RSB, coilovers, adjustable control arms, engine mounts, tranny mount, diff mount.


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[canadianA4B7]

Tune (anything other the unitronic or apr)
Exhaust, intake, check the basics for proper working order (DV, wastegate valve, pcv system), then injectors, rebuild the head, new Pistons rods and associated parts, throw on a big turbo and car will be fast.

There's a few guys local to you (Quebec it looks like) if you search through build treads and some info some of those local guys might be able to help you out.

[Obsidian]

- JHM Tune
- Test Pipe
- aFe or K&N Drop in filter (stock airbox actually performs extremely well)
- Downpipe
- Meth?

-Revision D Diverter
-Catch Can (get rid of the PCV asap)
-Check cam follower

Maybe a RS4 rear swaybar and suspension depending on your preference and goals for the car overall. Personally if its your daily driver I don't think its worth it to go much further than that but many guys on AZ daily some built monsters.

Best of luck and welcome!

[StatusQuo]

For sure a stage 1 tune. I went with Eurodyne personally since my buddy is tuning right now for E85 and I'm trying to learn the ropes. Eurodyne allows you to modify the tune or make a fully custom one if you buy the Maestro Suite.

I would then get a 3 inch catless Downpipe. I got the USP one. HpfP comes after and then you can flash stage 2


For handles, I'd say get a good set of tires then after, a RSB. You can do all the suspension mods you want, but it's the tires making contact with the ground.

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[Valve_Cover]

Exhaust, intake, check the basics for proper working order (DV, wastegate valve, pcv system), then injectors, rebuild the head, new Pistons rods and associated parts, throw on a big turbo and car will be fast.

Lol wut ? I don't usually pull heads and pistons on a daily driver haha but thanks!

Thanks for the info guys, HPFP make an actual difference? Or I just need it if I want to go stage 2 or more?

And yea suspension wise I'm looking as some El cheapo coils (JOM most likely) and a beefy rear sway. I came out of a performance pack gti on Koni's , so nothing I do will make this car seem like it can handle a curve haha! It's ok though I bought it more as a daily cruiser so All I want is a little lower and reduce body roll

[vce1232000]

Hey guys, just got myself into a B7 after 2 years in a MK6 GTI and 5 years in B6 1.8T. I'm looking to give it a little more bite (these cars are god awful slow in stock form). I don't want to go crazy since this is just a DD that will see lots of snow, but I'm just wondering where I'll get the best bumps in power for my money?

I've been thinking:
- JHM 93 Octane stage 1
- JHM Test Pipe
- K&N drop in filter
- TT Downpipe

that for yaa

[james12lucy]

Lol wut ? I don't usually pull heads and pistons on a daily driver haha but thanks!

Thanks for the info guys, HPFP make an actual difference? Or I just need it if I want to go stage 2 or more?

And yea suspension wise I'm looking as some El cheapo coils (JOM most likely) and a beefy rear sway. I came out of a performance pack gti on Koni's , so nothing I do will make this car seem like it can handle a curve haha! It's ok though I bought it more as a daily cruiser so All I want is a little lower and reduce body roll

The HPFP is required for the JHM Stage 2, 93 Octane tune.


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[vce1232000]

Thanks for the info guys, HPFP make an actual difference? Or I just need it if I want to go stage 2 or more?
the best bang for the buck for power on these 2.0T
And yea suspension wise I'm looking as some El cheapo coils (JOM most likely) and a beefy rear sway. I came out of a performance pack gti on Koni's , so nothing I do will make this car seem like it can handle a curve haha! It's ok though I bought it more as a daily cruiser so All I want is a little lower and reduce body roll

A modified hpfp imo does very little in return if your not going to KO4 and up. A tune is the best bang for the buck on these 2.0T's. I heard reviews on members about it.

Imo the coil over for choice and $$$$ would be a set of ST's. The $$$$ you spent on JOM's you could easily the ST's. The 034 RSB would be a choice for the $$$$.

The above would waken the to another level

[mgfranz]

Hey guys, just got myself into a B7 after 2 years in a MK6 GTI and 5 years in B6 1.8T. I'm looking to give it a little more bite (these cars are god awful slow in stock form). I don't want to go crazy since this is just a DD that will see lots of snow, but I'm just wondering where I'll get the best bumps in power for my money?

I've been thinking:
- Unitronic stage 1+
- Test Pipe
- Carbonio intake (Not really sure if intakes add any actual power on these cars)
- Downpipe maybe

What do you guys think is the best for these engines? Are these good bets, and what else would you do?

The +1 tune is only worth it if you have access to 93 octane fuel, down here 91 is all we can get. I would actually lean towards the JHM Stage1. Get a good DV, Forge or GFB are preferred, I run a GFB and like it. Get the regular stuff done, FP cam follower, fuel filter, plugs, coils, etc... Having the peace of mind that they are done is nice. I haven't pulled the cord yet, but a high-flow cat and JHM stage1 are next for me.

[Vip3r]

Definitely do a JHM tune. I have a JHM 93 oct stage 1 tune. Soon to add upgraded hpfp and hfc. Eventually I'll be going the k04 route since my turbo is on its way out. Definitely check the cam follower if you haven't already. Also throw an Intercooler in the mix too. It's my daily driver too and I'm trying to find that line of power and reliability I want. Imo anything JHM makes is really good quality btw. I would check them out of you haven't already. Let the modding begin!

[Valve_Cover]

Wow thanks for all the replies guys, I've never heard of JHM. I'll check them out, but not sure I have a dealer up here in Quebec.
As for gas on the 1+ Uni tune requiring 93, we have 94 octane on pretty much every corner up here (Thank you Petro-Canada!!) :D :D :D

And coils wise, I had ST's on my B6, and they aren't worth the 900$ (with shipping) when putting them in snow IMO. They pretty much went to shit after less than 2 years on the car. (Quebec puts tons of salt on the roads) The left rear shock blew after about 30K km (so like 20k miles) and all 4 struts were rusted like hell after 2 winters

That's why I'm thinking JOM's since they are super cheap, If they go to shit after two years, I'll just throw on a new set down the road, whereas anything expensive I'd be pretty dissapointed if they took a shit like my ST's did...

EDIT: Oh and as for cam follower problems you guys mentioned, I just looked it up...scary stuff. Is there a point where they all tend to fail miles wise? Do they fail at any given time or is this a "change it every 60k and you're fine" type deal?

[vce1232000]

to hear about the ST's rusting away in 2 seasons up there... Thought they would hold up better then that. I would have utilized the 5 year warranty to get ments. My St's held up pretty for being in the Tri-State area with all the potholes I hit while .

With JHM you can tune it from a remote located with the Chetah cable. Im pretty sure some member up there has one that they can lend you or ship you to use.

I my cam follower every 20k with the modified APR HPFP. It seems to eat them for lunch. Imo Id say to be safe every 50-60k will be on a stock hpfp. Some members the follower every other oil change

[adam044]

I would not wait 60k. 5-10k on modified, 20-30k on stock for the cam follower.

It's cheap and easy, no reason to push it.

[Valve_Cover]

Wow ok, looks like i'll be changing it out this week haha! I'm pretty sure the PO didn't take extremely good care of the car so I won't take the chance. I'm doing the T-belt this week so I'll toss in a cam follower while i'm in there.

[adam044]

What mileage you at?

[Valve_Cover]

What mileage you at?

150K km, so like 90k miles-ish

[adam044]

150K km, so like 90k miles-ish

Be prepared to find a hole in that cam follower if it is the original.

[Valve_Cover]

Be prepared to find a hole in that cam follower if it is the original.

Wow ok I'm really hoping it's not loll

[KingWulfgar]

Be prepared to find a hole in that cam follower if it is the original.

Possibly, but not always. Just replaced my original one at around 95k miles (stock engine/tune). No problems. worn, but not worn out.

[adam044]

Lucky. Same mileage/stock and my had a hole in it. 2008 too.

[An3Daniels]

- JHM Tune
- Test Pipe
- aFe or K&N Drop in filter (stock airbox actually performs extremely well)
- Downpipe
- Meth?

-Revision D Diverter
-Catch Can (get rid of the PCV asap)
-Check cam follower

Maybe a RS4 rear swaybar and suspension depending on your preference and goals for the car overall. Personally if its your daily driver I don't think its worth it to go much further than that but many guys on AZ daily some built monsters.

Best of luck and welcome!

Basically this, and add a Sprint Booster. That will make car's throttle response much faster.

[Ashtonts]

Possibly, but not always. Just replaced my original one at around 95k miles (stock engine/tune). No problems. worn, but not worn out.

Similar mileage on mine and had a huge hole in it too. You're one of the lucky ones

[bickhouse]

Tune, HFC/test pipe, exhaust, HPFP, intercooler, injectors, turbo. In that order for engine.

RS4 RSB, coilovers, adjustable control arms, engine mounts, tranny mount, diff mount.


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wouldnt you prefer to get the exhaust before the tune, considering you would have to re-tune anyways?

[Ashtonts]

wouldnt you prefer to get the exhaust before the tune, considering you would have to re-tune anyways?

Stage 1 to start, upgrade to stage 2 after the exhaust/HPFP

[KingWulfgar]

Similar mileage on mine and had a huge hole in it too. You're one of the lucky ones

It was checked a time or two leading up to that point. Given the extended coverage on it, it wasn't a huge concern to me until that ran out (at 10 years for me). Up to that point, it would've been Audi's problem. From here on out, I'll probably check it every 10k miles.

To be honest, I think there are lots of "lucky ones" out there that just never post (or even come to forums like this).

[Axis]

idéalement re-flash, rsb de RS4 et suspension à ton gout. Les control arm ajustable vont seulement être nécessaire si tu slam évidement.

Unitronic sont local, toujours bien d'encourager le local et c'est dans les OTS tune les plus aggressif tout de suite après JHM. (Je peux te référer un rep)

Veteran Member du Quebec que j'ai jamais vu dans cette section...T'étais en dessous d'une criss de grosse roche lol

[vce1232000]

wouldnt you prefer to get the exhaust before the tune, considering you would have to re-tune anyways?

Our ECU tuned will adapt to ed mods

[MisterVRT]

Veteran Member du Quebec que j'ai jamais vu dans cette section...T'étais en dessous d'une criss de grosse roche lol

C'est des choses qui arrivent

[Charles.waite]

Thanks for the info guys, HPFP make an actual difference? Or I just need it if I want to go stage 2 or more?

The HPFP will only make a difference if your tune is specced to take advantage of the increased fuel. If its not pump limited then the pump won't do much aside from lower the pump duty cycle, which I suppose could put a bit less strain on the pump.

Also welcome to the B7 side! I thought I recognized you username from somewhere.

[Winners Eat Pho]

Tune (anything other the unitronic or apr)

What's wrong with APR tune?

[Ashtonts]

What's wrong with APR tune?

Compared to the competition, its a very underwhelming tune

[KingWulfgar]

Compared to the competition, its a very underwhelming tune

It's also pretty safe. With my car just ticking over 100k miles and it being my DD, I favored a little bit of conservatism in tuning at the expense of a few HP. I've had APR stage 1 for about a month and it's still a huge jump over stock.

[oVeRdOsE]

idéalement re-flash, rsb de RS4 et suspension à ton gout. Les control arm ajustable vont seulement être nécessaire si tu slam évidement.

Unitronic sont local, toujours bien d'encourager le local et c'est dans les OTS tune les plus aggressif tout de suite après JHM. (Je peux te référer un rep)

Veteran Member du Quebec que j'ai jamais vu dans cette section...T'étais en dessous d'une criss de grosse roche lol

for the power difference, I believe unitronic is the smart choice.

If OP goes with an exhaust and test pipe ( please go with a high flow catalytic converter), he better get the stage 2 right away.


- CTS complete turbo back exhaust (less than 1600$ cad, including shipping) wait for discounts.
- GFB diverter valve ( about 140$ cad)
- intake ( optional ) ( from 0$ to 400$ ) I use my nissan maxima intake, so 0$)
- stage 2 unitronic ( about 600$ cad)


don't expect crazy performances.

If you go stage 1, you'll get the stage 2 in your mind all the time, go for stage 2 right away.

[adam044]

Why go with a HFC over a test pipe? That's crazy talk.

I have a full turbo back exhaust and only would of needed the upgraded HPFP to go stage 2 but chose to start with stage 1.

[Ashtonts]

^^I would go HFC just to avoid the smell honestly

[adam044]

They don't smell... It's very minimum. I have one.

[oVeRdOsE]

They don't smell... It's very minimum. I have one.

CO VS CO2?
Nx to N2?
etc
chemical reaction (oxidation and reduction) with the rare metal with a gas, is not a theoretical reaction, this is a fact.

[vce1232000]

What's wrong with APR tune?

There's nothing wrong with a APR tune. Its one of the most safest conservative tune out there for the 2.0T